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11 states with more people on welfare than employed
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Post: #32
11 states with more people on welfare than employed
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-24-2013 04:01 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-24-2013 03:44 AM)
I don't care where you're living, peeps on welfare are not making the equivalent of 62,400 frn-s per year. hogwash

California apartments, one bedroom, typically start at 1,300
Have a child and need two bedrooms, looking at around 1,600
Section 8? FREE!

Childcare, privately, runs around 12 an hour. Preschool is free, after school care is not, typically 15 an hour, or flat at around 350.00 per month (STAR PROGRAM) - welfare = free.
Bus fare, metro fare = free
Allowance on food, for one: 220. For two, one being child 340, plus you qualify for other programs (I forget the name, but it's milk, cereals, etc.)

Then you get free healthcare as well, in most cases. I can't even compute a cost on that, but here is an estimate given the numbers where I am from (doing the lowball numbers):
15,600 - rent
2, 640 - food
3,600 - child care
720 - bus fare

= 22,560 yearly (this doesn't include health care and dental, nor other benefits like low-income electric and the like.)

so you are saying that every houshold on welfare has a preschool child/needs afterschool care, has no car, and uses section 8?
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Post: #33
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Frank  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:02 AM)
Lsst month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What’s the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour.

link to image: http://i.imgur.com/q7r6x8h.jpg

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YOU RAIL AGAINST WELFARE WHILE SAY NOTHING ABOUT :
T.V. PRIESTS
SPORTSMEN
ACTORS
GOVT WORKERS
LAWYERS
JUDGES
CITY OFFICIALS
MAYORS
DEFENCE CONTRACTORS
MILITARY GENERALS
SENATORS
CONGRESSMEN
BANKERS
STOCK BROKERS
INSURANCE OFFICERS
CEOS
LOOBYSTS
COP
TV ANCHORS
FILM PRODUCERS
FEMINISTS
ACADEMICIANS

ARE THEY NOT ON WELFARE? WHY DOES WELFARE TO POOR PEOPLE BURNS FAT OFF YOUR ASS?
WHY SHOULD A SHITTY COP ,A PAMPERED MILITARY GENERAL GET MORE MONEY THAN POOR PEOPLE ON WELFARE?
WHY DO YOU GET JEALOUS?
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Post: #34
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you do realize this is not truly funded by the taxpayer don't you? the united states is in debt to the tune of $3+ quadrillion (3000+trillion). these programs are covered actually by simply printing money at the global and the US of a level. Your tax money goes to the federal reserve system and not to your country, which borrows from the system. Your tax money cannot ever come close to this debt.

and the cost to society of not feeding and sheltering everyone is more tremendous than not doing it. there are not enough jobs out there for the burgeoning numbers of people. Keep it in your pants guys and this will do a long ways.

Stop the religious garbage and date threads. Your world is f**ked UP and its time to UNFUCK it. And it can only be unfucked by realizing YOU ARE GOD MANIFEST
http://www.abundanthope.net/talkitup/forum.php
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Post: #35
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Disturbed nli  Wrote: (02-24-2013 04:13 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-24-2013 04:01 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-24-2013 03:44 AM)
I don't care where you're living, peeps on welfare are not making the equivalent of 62,400 frn-s per year. hogwash

California apartments, one bedroom, typically start at 1,300
Have a child and need two bedrooms, looking at around 1,600
Section 8? FREE!

Childcare, privately, runs around 12 an hour. Preschool is free, after school care is not, typically 15 an hour, or flat at around 350.00 per month (STAR PROGRAM) - welfare = free.
Bus fare, metro fare = free
Allowance on food, for one: 220. For two, one being child 340, plus you qualify for other programs (I forget the name, but it's milk, cereals, etc.)

Then you get free healthcare as well, in most cases. I can't even compute a cost on that, but here is an estimate given the numbers where I am from (doing the lowball numbers):
15,600 - rent
2, 640 - food
3,600 - child care
720 - bus fare

= 22,560 yearly (this doesn't include health care and dental, nor other benefits like low-income electric and the like.)

so you are saying that every houshold on welfare has a preschool child/needs afterschool care, has no car, and uses section 8?

No, what I'm saying is I am low balling the equation (solvable expression) with what is offered and if they have allied for most benefits. I think I even stated earlier what those above the poverty line (with cars, jobs and health insurance) are apt to get.

I live in that yellow gridded state called California, and if you don't see an issue with welfare here - you are probably on it.

http://arc.asm.ca.gov/BudgetFactCheck/?p_id=289

Not smashing you if you are, but I'd like you to take this into consideration for the rest of the state - before we leave and let it bottom out.
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Post: #36
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Maggie  Wrote: (02-24-2013 04:30 PM)
you do realize this is not truly funded by the taxpayer don't you? the united states is in debt to the tune of $3+ quadrillion (3000+trillion). these programs are covered actually by simply printing money at the global and the US of a level. Your tax money goes to the federal reserve system and not to your country, which borrows from the system. Your tax money cannot ever come close to this debt.

and the cost to society of not feeding and sheltering everyone is more tremendous than not doing it. there are not enough jobs out there for the burgeoning numbers of people. Keep it in your pants guys and this will do a long ways.

So, over printing money is okay to help the needy? Am I reading your thought correctly?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:16 AM)
How are you getting the $168 per day?I know lots of people on welfare and foodstamps, not one of them is getting anywhere near that amount per day.
And barely that per month...

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Post: #38
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Disturbed nli  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:22 AM)
Frank  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:02 AM)
Lsst month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What’s the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour.

you saying the welfare household has MORE in food, housing, childcare, and healthcare than a $50.000 a year household? that dont seem correct.
It's not...
To believe so would be ludicrous...

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Post: #39
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Frank  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:28 AM)
Disturbed nli  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:22 AM)
Frank  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:02 AM)
Lsst month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What’s the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour.

you saying the welfare household has MORE in food, housing, childcare, and healthcare than a $50.000 a year household? that dont seem correct.

It's an average. Some get more, some get less. But all the money doled out averages to $168.00/day considering the amount of people on welfare.
I'd believe it if it included corporate welfare...

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Post: #40
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Blue Waffle  Wrote: (02-24-2013 04:38 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:16 AM)
How are you getting the $168 per day?I know lots of people on welfare and foodstamps, not one of them is getting anywhere near that amount per day.
And barely that per month...

Again, it's a national average. That's been stated ad nauseam.
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Frank  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:33 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:26 AM)
Frank  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:02 AM)
Lsst month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the [b]average U.S. household below the poverty line[/b] received $168.00 a day in government support. What’s the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

weasel words bolded.

Please define accurately "other benefits", because medicare and Social security are almost certainly among these. Meaning this (probably) is statistically deranged propaganda.

Please indicate how many people LIVE in households that receive $168/day in support vs how many live in households nationally.

And finally WHY did this statement have to qualify the comparison with the term "below the poverty line"? Would the stats seem different if households above the poverty line were included?

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. ~ Mark Twain

The universe of means-tested welfare spending refers to programs that provide low-income assistance in the form of direct or indirect financial support—such as food stamps, free housing, child care, etc.—and which the recipient does not pay into (in contrast to Medicare or Social Security).
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:16 AM)
How are you getting the $168 per day?I know lots of people on welfare and foodstamps, not one of them is getting anywhere near that amount per day.

They probably include the cost of administration which would be like 95% of the money.
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Post: #43
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Blue Waffle  Wrote: (02-24-2013 04:41 PM)
Frank  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:28 AM)
Disturbed nli  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:22 AM)
you saying the welfare household has MORE in food, housing, childcare, and healthcare than a $50.000 a year household? that dont seem correct.

It's an average. Some get more, some get less. But all the money doled out averages to $168.00/day considering the amount of people on welfare.
I'd believe it if it included corporate welfare...

Then I have a suggestion;
Lets get rid of all corporate jobs and asshole, and the welfare system.

Lets do that right now - see how the chips fall.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-24-2013 04:41 PM)
Blue Waffle  Wrote: (02-24-2013 04:38 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:16 AM)
How are you getting the $168 per day?I know lots of people on welfare and foodstamps, not one of them is getting anywhere near that amount per day.
And barely that per month...

Again, it's a national average. That's been stated ad nauseam.
And, ad nauseum, still B.S.

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-24-2013 04:43 PM)
Blue Waffle  Wrote: (02-24-2013 04:41 PM)
Frank  Wrote: (02-24-2013 02:28 AM)
It's an average. Some get more, some get less. But all the money doled out averages to $168.00/day considering the amount of people on welfare.
I'd believe it if it included corporate welfare...

Then I have a suggestion;
Lets get rid of all corporate jobs and asshole, and the welfare system.

Lets do that right now - see how the chips fall.
And asshole?
Why get rid of assholes?
Everybody's got to shit sometime...

Further,
corporations would do just fine without welfare, they'd just have to cut back on officer paychecks, and they still would be filthy rich...

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