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I am more concerned about the IP Tracker than the mass extinction possibility at the moment. Whats that all about?

Post: #47

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I am more concerned about the IP Tracker than the mass extinction possibility at the moment. Whats that all about?

If men in dark suits show up at your door, get out the back door as quickly as possible and don't look back.....

Actually, I would like to know a little more about it and the name of anti-virus routine for it.

Post: #48

BeelzeBob  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I am more concerned about the IP Tracker than the mass extinction possibility at the moment. Whats that all about?

If men in dark suits show up at your door, get out the back door as quickly as possible and don't look back.....

Actually, I would like to know a little more about it and the name of anti-virus routine for it.

I ran the pdf through an ocr engine for the people afraid of virilii!

Enjoy:

NATURE VOL. 308 19 APRIL 1984
neurophysin may hinder its further packaging and processing in the neurosecretory granules. On the other hand, the modified C-terminus may have caused the neurophysin to have lost one of its supposed functions, namely to protect the hormone from proteolytic degradationm.
Received 16 January; accepted 23 February 1984. 1. Valtin, H., Stewart, J. & Sokol, H. W. Handbk PhysioL 7, 131-171 (1974). 2. Pickering, B. T. Be North, W. G. Ann. N. Y. Acad Sci. 394, 72-81 (1982)- 3. Cheng, S. W. T., North, W. G. & Ge/lai, M. Ann. N. Y. Acad. 394, 437-480 (1982)- 4_ Brownstein, J. M., Russell, J. T. & Gainer, H. Science 207, 373-378 (1980). 5. Gainer, H. Prog. Brain Res. 60, 205-215 (1982). 6- Land, H., Schiitz, G., Schmale, H. & Richter, D. Nature 295, 299-303 (1982). 7. Schmale, H., Heinsohn, S. & Richter, D. EMBO J. 2, 763-767 (1983). S. Sokol, H. W. & Valtin, H. Ann. N. Y. Acad. Sci. 394, 1-828 (1982). 9. Valtin, H., North, W. G., LaRochelle, F. T., Sokol, H. W. & Morris, J. Proc. 7th int. Congr. Nephrol., Basel, 313-320 (Karger, Basel, 1978). 10. Land, H. et al. Nature 302, 342-344 (1983). 11. Ivell, R. & Richter, D. Proc. nam. Acad. Sci. U.S.A. (in the press). 12. Valtin, H. & Schroeder, H. A. Am. J. Physiol. 206, 425-430 (1964). 11 Southern, E. M. .1 molec. Biol. 98, 503-517 (1975).
Terrestrial mass extinctions, cometary impacts and the Sun's motion perpendicular to the galactic plane Michael R. Rampino* & Richard B. Stothers National Aeronautics and Space Administration, Goddard Institute for Space Studies, 2880 Broadway, New York, New York 10025, USA
Episodes of mass extinctions on the Earth are now strongly suspec-ted to be cyclical'. We report here that our analysis of the data of Raup and Sepkoskil suggests that the dominant cyclicity in major marine mass extinctions during at least the past 250 Myr is 30± 1 Myr, with the standard deviation of an individual episode being ±9 Myr. We find this terrestrial cycle to be strongly corre-lated with the time needed for the Solar System to oscillate vertically about the plane of the Galaxy, which is 33 ± 3 Myr according to the best current astronomical evidence. It is argued that galactic triggering or forcing of terrestrial biological crises may arise as a result of collisions (or close encounters) of the Solar System with intermediate-sized to large-sized interstellar clouds of gas and dust, which are sufficiently concentrated towards the galactic plane to produce the observed cyclicity and its scatter. Among other consequences, a nearby interstellar cloud would gravitationally perturb the Solar System's family of comets and thereby increase the flux of comets and comet-derived bodies near the Earth, leading to large-body impacts. We find a dominant cyclicity of 31 ± 1 Myr in the observed age distribution of impact craters on Earth, the phase of this cycle agreeing with that shown by the major biological crises. Our galactic hypothesis can thus simultaneously account for the mean interval between major terrestrial crises and for the 50% scatter of the time intervals about their mean value. Raup and Sepkoskil have very recently presented evidence for an approximate cyclicity in marine mass extinctions over the past 250 Myr. Fourier analysis of their data showed a dominant periodicity of 30 Myr, a best-fit curve yielded a cycle of 26 Myr, and a non-parametric test (previously developed independently and somewhat differently in ref. 2) revealed a significant cycle at 26 Myr and an only slightly less significant cycle at 30 Myr. Using less extensive data, Fischer and Arthur3 had already suggested a 32-Myr periodicity in marine mass extinctions. Which periodicity, 26 Myr or 30 Myr, should be preferred?
*Present address: Department of Geological Sciences, Columbia University, New York, New York 10027, USA.
LETTERS TO NATURE
LETTERS TO NATURE
We thank Heidje Christiansen for technical assistance and Drs Monika Rehbein for DNA preparation, Gerd Scherer for providing A641 and Richard Ivell for helpful discussions. This work received financial support from the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft.
14. Maxam, A. M. & Gilbert, W. Meth. Enzym. 65, 499-560 (1980). 15. Wallace, R. B. et aL Nucleic Acids Res. 6, 3543-3557 (1979). 16. Breslow, E. A. Rev. Biochem. 48, 251-274 (1979). 17. Lu, C.-L., Cantin, M., Seidah, N. G. & Chratien, M..1. Histochern. Cytochern. 30,999-1003 (1982). 18. Martin, R. & Voigt, K. H. Nature 289, 502-504 (1981). 19. Russell, J. T., Brownstein, M. J. & Gainer, H. Endocrinology 107, 1880-1981 (1980). 20_ Chirgwin, J. M., Przybyla, A. E., MacDonald, R. J. & Rutter, W. J. Biochemistry 18, 5294-5299 (1979). 21. BIM, N. & Stafford, D. W. Nucleic Acids Res. 3, 2303-2308 (1976). 22. Murray. N. E., Brammar, W. J. & Murray, K. Malec. gen. Genet. 150, 53-61 (1977). 23. Breathnach, R. & Chambon, P. A. Rev. Biochem. 50, 349-383 (1981). 24. Gal, A., Nahon, J.-L. & Sala-Trepat, J. M. Analyt. Biochem. 132, 190-194 (1983). • 25. Kidd, V_ J., Wallace, R. B., ltakura, K. & Woo, S.L.C. Nature 304, 230-234 (1983).
Raup and Sepkoski listed all discernible mass extinction peaks that exceeded 2% extinctions on a family level. As they were well aware, however, there are a number of uncertainties in their selection procedure. First, 2% may be too small to be statistically meaningful; Raup4 elsewhere suggested the use of 10%. Second, there are several minor fluctuations on the time curve of mass extinctions, some of which Raup and Sepkoski selected as true peaks and others they rejected as spurious peaks. Third, as the resolution in time is only one geological stage, other individual minor mass extinction episodes may exist at the substage level. In view of these uncertainties concerning identification and significance, we consider it best to follow Raup4 and adopt a cutoff of 10% extinctions, while disregarding all the minor inflections on the curve. The large remaining peaks then refer exclusively to the major mass extinction episodes and can be assumed to be completely sampled. They are listed in Table 1 (where the dates have been slightly revised according to ref. 5). Nine dates appear in this table, in contrast to the 12 listed by Raup and Sepkoski. Intervals of time between successive episodes of major mass extinctions lie in the range 17-53 Myr, with mean time interval 29 Myr. We regard the large (50%) dispersion as physically real, although some of it must be due to uncertainties of the dating. Reasons given below suggest that the dispersion is randomly generated. If, however, a true underlying mean periodicity does exist and no major mass extinction episodes are either missing or redundant, we can unambiguously assign a cycle number to each episode (Table 1). Non-parametric tests (like those in refs 1,2) are then no longer appropriate. Regression of the episode date on the cycle number by the method of least squares provides an unbiased estimate of the best-fitting mean period, which is found to be 30± 1 Myr. If other recently proposed geological time scales are adopted', essentially the same mean period emerges. This invariance is not surprising because the central limit theorem ensures that the presence of even rather large random errors in the dates will not significantly affect either the mean time interval or the best-fitting least-squares period. If the cycle number is left as a free parameter, the best-fitting mean period P derived from a suitable non-parametric method2, m which the observed times are fitted to a formula of the type t = to+ nP, is 26 Myr, where t, to and n are an observed time, the most recent epoch and an integer, respectively. This would agree with Raup and Sepkoski's1 result. However, Raup and Sepkoski have emphasized the approximate nature of any period that can be derived from so few data points. We prefer, in fact, the assignment of the cycle numbers as given above and therefore the period of 30 Myr. There are additional reasons for our preference: first, other kinds of geological data (including 41 dated impact craters) show periods of 30-35 Myr, and, second,
©1984 Nature Publishing Group
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fwiw, I am dressed in a dark suit today

and i werk fer da gubbmint

Post: #49

BeelzeBob  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I am more concerned about the IP Tracker than the mass extinction possibility at the moment. Whats that all about?

If men in dark suits show up at your door, get out the back door as quickly as possible and don't look back.....

Actually, I would like to know a little more about it and the name of anti-virus routine for it.

nah, they hardly ever "knock" anymore... they will just gang stalk you or harass you or send someone out to take pictures of your place or spray chemtrails to cause tornadoes to level your town... you know stuff that can't be pinned on them directly...

Post: #50

LoP Guest  Wrote:

BeelzeBob  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I am more concerned about the IP Tracker than the mass extinction possibility at the moment. Whats that all about?

If men in dark suits show up at your door, get out the back door as quickly as possible and don't look back.....

Actually, I would like to know a little more about it and the name of anti-virus routine for it.

nah, they hardly ever "knock" anymore... they will just gang stalk you or harass you or send someone out to take pictures of your place or spray chemtrails to cause tornadoes to level your town... you know stuff that can't be pinned on them directly...

My Norton didnt care about it.

Post: #51

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

If the "extinction cycle" happens each 30 million years, when did the last big extinction happened?

Don't tell me it was about 30 million years ago...

29.999999 million years ago.

Last major extinction was 65 million years ago.

This is nothing new, this has been known for quite awhile and NOT suppressed. It's just that normal (read those not interested in space) people don't care about it.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/200...092145.htm
The sun's movement through the Milky Way regularly sends comets hurtling into the inner solar system -- coinciding with mass life extinctions on earth, a new study claims. The study suggests a link between comet bombardment and the movement through the galaxy.

We pass through the galactic plane about every 33 Myr (million years) and we just passed through it last about 3 Myr ago. Some scientists believe we are in most peril the furthest away from the plane, while others think the closer the more doom.

Either way that's either 30 millions years or 13 millions years way. Give or take a couple hours ...

$0.02

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Post: #53

Currahee  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

If the "extinction cycle" happens each 30 million years, when did the last big extinction happened?

Don't tell me it was about 30 million years ago...

29.999999 million years ago.

Last major extinction was 65 million years ago.

This is nothing new, this has been known for quite awhile and NOT suppressed. It's just that normal (read those not interested in space) people don't care about it.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/200...092145.htm
The sun's movement through the Milky Way regularly sends comets hurtling into the inner solar system -- coinciding with mass life extinctions on earth, a new study claims. The study suggests a link between comet bombardment and the movement through the galaxy.

We pass through the galactic plane about every 33 Myr (million years) and we just passed through it last about 3 Myr ago. Some scientists believe we are in most peril the furthest away from the plane, while others think the closer the more doom.

Either way that's either 30 millions years or 13 millions years way. Give or take a couple hours ...

$0.02

Where did you get that disinformation? Not true. We bob above and below the galactic plane like a carousel horse every coupla thousand years. Like a sine wave. It takes our solar system 240 million years to make a single trek around the milky way galaxy.

Post: #54

Smilin Eyes  Wrote:

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

If Skippy (who I love) posted this, it would be pinned by now...that's all I'm sayin.

I requested a pin as well.

Very good information in an easy to understand language in the OP.

Over 25 (closer to 30) years later look what NASA discovered:

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sci...c_voyager/

December 23, 2009: The solar system is passing through an interstellar cloud that physics says should not exist. In the Dec. 24th issue of Nature, a team of scientists reveal how NASA's Voyager spacecraft have solved the mystery.

...Astronomers call the cloud we're running into now the Local Interstellar Cloud or "Local Fluff" for short. It's about 30 light years wide and contains a wispy mixture of hydrogen and helium atoms at a temperature of 6000 C. The existential mystery of the Fluff has to do with its surroundings. About 10 million years ago, a cluster of supernovas exploded nearby, creating a giant bubble of million-degree gas. The Fluff is completely surrounded by this high-pressure supernova exhaust and should be crushed or dispersed by it.



Now mesh that with what was posted in the PDF.

Dec 2009...hmmm...anyone remember the Norway Spiral? Something happened Nov/Dec that year - I got extremely dizzy, and it lasted for almost 2 months!?!? I live where the Spiral occurred btw...

Post: #55

Currahee  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

If the "extinction cycle" happens each 30 million years, when did the last big extinction happened?

Don't tell me it was about 30 million years ago...

29.999999 million years ago.

Last major extinction was 65 million years ago.

This is nothing new, this has been known for quite awhile and NOT suppressed. It's just that normal (read those not interested in space) people don't care about it.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/200...092145.htm
The sun's movement through the Milky Way regularly sends comets hurtling into the inner solar system -- coinciding with mass life extinctions on earth, a new study claims. The study suggests a link between comet bombardment and the movement through the galaxy.

We pass through the galactic plane about every 33 Myr (million years) and we just passed through it last about 3 Myr ago. Some scientists believe we are in most peril the furthest away from the plane, while others think the closer the more doom.

Either way that's either 30 millions years or 13 millions years way. Give or take a couple hours ...

$0.02

Nowadays, officially we don't know how far we were, but in the eighties:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/se...l=en&gl=us :
Neptune crossed the galactic plane at a .~_ l8“01“‘ in 1984,
while Uranus follows at a=17“57‘“ in 1988. The densest
visible star fields, however, lie to the south of the plane at
l8h10’“$a$18“33‘“, in regions traversed by Neptune in
1986-1987 and Uranus in 1989-1990
(from above link—The Astronimical Journal 1988 -)

Post: #56

so this means there is something to the mayan prophecies.

Post: #57

LoP Guest  Wrote:

so this means there is something to the mayan prophecies.

Bingo! We have a winner!

Post: #58

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Pins are queer anyway. If the info is good, people will look and they will discuss and it will stay around as long as it should. That is all I am saying.

It ties in with Skippy's 'Pole Shift'... crossing the galactic plane being the cause thereof....

Indeed, it does. It also ties in with Smilin Eye's Fluff--i.e. dense interstellar plasma cloud that seems to be heaviest at the galactic plane...

Congrats on the pin. This is very good information!! The only thing I wonder though is if it really is millions of years..... The last extinction event was around 12,000 years ago.... I wonder if the "millions" of years we always hear from the science community is a smoke screen and they aren't including the more recent cycles of thousands of years?? I will keep reading through this thread today, I wish I had woken up earlier....

Post: #59

Skippy  Wrote:

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

It ties in with Skippy's 'Pole Shift'... crossing the galactic plane being the cause thereof....

Indeed, it does. It also ties in with Smilin Eye's Fluff--i.e. dense interstellar plasma cloud that seems to be heaviest at the galactic plane...

Congrats on the pin. This is very good information!! The only thing I wonder though is if it really is millions of years..... The last extinction event was around 12,000 years ago.... I wonder if the "millions" of years we always hear from the science community is a smoke screen and they aren't including the more recent cycles of thousands of years?? I will keep reading through this thread today, I wish I had woken up earlier....

I was so...like...how did I beat Skippy to this one? Proud of me?

I believe you are correct, and LaViolette's work seems to confirm the 12,000 year catclysim cycle, even if his Super Gravity Wave theory might not be right.

Post: #60

Skippy  Wrote:

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

It ties in with Skippy's 'Pole Shift'... crossing the galactic plane being the cause thereof....

Indeed, it does. It also ties in with Smilin Eye's Fluff--i.e. dense interstellar plasma cloud that seems to be heaviest at the galactic plane...

Congrats on the pin. This is very good information!! The only thing I wonder though is if it really is millions of years..... The last extinction event was around 12,000 years ago.... I wonder if the "millions" of years we always hear from the science community is a smoke screen and they aren't including the more recent cycles of thousands of years?? I will keep reading through this thread today, I wish I had woken up earlier....

We (our solar system) cross(es) the galactic plane every coupla thousand years. Unless you have some proof pole shifts happen every several thousand years you're flat out wrong.