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**GreenAQ** · **GreenAQ** Livin' a dream User ID: 113375 08-10-2012 10:59 AM **Posts: 9,026**

I've been thinking about symbols a lot lately.

How they are either coincidental/accidental, synchronous, intentional, or a combination of the above.

Particularly, the shape of the triangle/pyramid. And the word Trinity, and what that means throughout history, how it's been corrupted, co-opted, blurred. And the symbolism of the colors red, blue, and green.

These have probably been discussed to death already. Heartflowers

**SpeaRitual** · **SpeaRitual** Courage User ID: 106706 08-10-2012 12:59 PM **Posts: 3,707**

The idiocy of accusing She.

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She; song that breathes, shines, made by God - to LOVE. Sun

The 3 Magi...

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 111064 08-10-2012 04:52 PM

Devout Agnostic Wrote:

Ahriman Wrote:
link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...2340F4.jpg

That would be the 12x12 New Jerusalem from the book of Revelation which would also be the sign for an enlightened human. This is why the crucifix is such a henious symbol imo, putting a dead man on the cross of an enlightened human.

Truly a hex.

That's interesting.
I've always thought it was interesting that a cross is a "t" for "torture".

T for tau. Greek Omega, English Z. As in "It is finished".

**Devout Agnostic**

SpeaRitual Wrote:

I gotta figure out how to square and shrink this and make it my avatar.

**Jessica6** · (This post was last modified: 09-13-2012 03:33 PM by Jessica6.)

Devout Agnostic Wrote:

RegisteredLOPGuest Wrote:
maybe you've already read jung but if not what he said about archetypes might interest you... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_archetypes

Its definitely an inspiration for the idea that im trying to express here, but I havent read it all. In terms geometric symbols he seemed more interested in mandalas, and i never got into that part of jungian theory. Do you know of anything he wrote that was similar to this idea of instinctual geometry?
...... *from another post*.....
I'm more interested in why certain symbols are so pervasive.

With geometry, certain things are simply easy to draw with a compass and ruler alone. Including three-to-six sided shapes and anything with circles. So there is no point in going into the origins of triangles or star shapes for example.

However, as anyone who has ever taken an art class learns, certain compositions seem to be automatically more appealing to the human eye, such as 'the rule of thirds' and the golden ratio for rectangular shapes. Triangles feature in a lot of compositions as well.

As for the meaning associated with such symbols, most of the time it is contextual but often we are a product of our culture in that sense and not even consciously aware of what the context is a lot of the time. Symbols then get reinforced by writers for example. Birds often connote communication with the afterlife or another realm, pentagrams are used by horror writers (especially for movies) to connote evil.. Sometimes it's just laziness and lack of imagination, often it's because writers know those connotations are usually already extant in the readers' minds as well, so it keeps things simple for everyone.

**Fork**

I've always considered symbols as signals... letting me know about something or giving me a message.

Our body is a wonderous network of cross signaling, it's happening in our brain to direct thought (consciousness) as well as helping our body function properly. The cellular level of all life is a wonderous pattern of recall and prompts to repeat the process.

Wave interference (cross signaling) is working at all scales micro and macro, inner and outer, above and below.

Thanks for this sharing this excellent thought in a thread. Heartflowers

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 115117 09-17-2012 04:52 AM

Good thread, you're onto something. Lot's of misguided minds in here though, with all their talk of "context" HAHA ya right.... People don't want too expand their minds past what they can scientifically explain.

This business of symbols is far greater than "context" or learned perceptions, the discussion of sacred geometry is slightly closer too the truth. It's way more than what you guys want too believe.

Much more sinisterly, symbols are used for the power behind them on your subconscious even on the "soul" level of your being.... Were all the product of our ancestors genetics, whats been passed to them is passed onto us even without context there are thing's that scar the soul or impact lives so greatly that future generations will NEVER forget.

I don't know why I'm even posting this, you guys will just flame me... half shill's half misguided innocents... There is much more going on beyond your conscious mind than you people wish to believe and I don't "blame" you... But it's sad more won't expand their awareness beyond the simplistic.

Good thread OP, keep it up. Do a more detailed analysis on the flags, some interesting stuff there. (Sun and Moon and star's)

**Johntaraz**

The power of symbols are so overwhelming they encompass the mind and will not allow it to fathom them.
It almost requires practice and training to carefully see them, their context, their history, their meaning, their purpose, to begin to understand what they do to the mind when they are part of perception and experience.

Thanks for pointing me in this direction D.A.
Its a great thread. 5*

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 136618 11-30-2012 10:40 AM

A symbol is simply a reference point enabling the mind to return to the same spot.

Recalling symbols is the simplest possible mental exercise possible and the basis of all 'magic'.

Not the symbol itself, but act of returning to the same location repeatedly, is how to program the mind.

Like mentally viewing your wristwatch from every angle.

**Johntaraz**

We have been conditioned by symbols since birth.
Mostly we do not even see them anymore.
They rivet our minds on their content while we are unconscious of these processes and go about doing what those symbols tell us with no realization of it.

Almost all advertising uses them.
Religion uses them.
Politics. ' @
All the characters on your keyboard that your fingers are touching as you type are also strings of characters in your mind as you think and formulate.
Remember that ABC book you were read to as a kid.
What was each page filled with, and how did those images get imprinted onto your mind for each letter?

We walk through this world blindly, conscious of about 10% of what our mind is processing.

**Devout Agnostic**

Johntaraz Wrote:

All the characters on your keyboard that your fingers are touching as you type are also strings of characters in your mind as you think and formulate.
Remember that ABC book you were read to as a kid.
What was each page filled with, and how did those images get imprinted onto your mind for each letter?

We walk through this world blindly, conscious of about 10% of what our mind is processing.

since you bring up the subject of alphabetical characters as symbols, here's a political twist:

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The Circle-A anarchy symbol was originally used by Occultists to represent GOD (Alpha and Omega), and was first applied to the concept of political anarchism by freemasons in the 17th century.

**Johntaraz**

Devout Agnostic Wrote:

Johntaraz Wrote:
All the characters on your keyboard that your fingers are touching as you type are also strings of characters in your mind as you think and formulate.
Remember that ABC book you were read to as a kid.
What was each page filled with, and how did those images get imprinted onto your mind for each letter?

We walk through this world blindly, conscious of about 10% of what our mind is processing.

since you bring up the subject of alphabetical characters as symbols, here's a political twist:

The Circle-A anarchy symbol was originally used by Occultists to represent GOD (Alpha and Omega), and was first applied to the concept of political anarchism by freemasons in the 17th century.

clapping smilie - I won't bring all the associations the gif has had heaped on it

The original meaning of it - pretend I posted it.

-- my little symbol example in practice.

Poignant symbol refresher example with the Anarchy "A for authority" being subsumed in the pyramid of hierarchical power, thanks. The diagonal slash being the cancellation of the power, or the crossing of the pyramid, or something else?

A is the first letter of the alphabet, is that by chance or design?
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I like metaphors and this is one that fits for me.

Symbols are like buried artifacts in our minds, artifacts that were crucial in determining who we are, how we think, what we do, what we believe, what we value, what we fear.
We once thought about what they were for, what they signified, who created them, what is their significance, the 5 W's + how.
But now they lay mostly buried below the surface, part of our culture, our past, our thoughts, but either dusty relics, or completely covered over.
So what you have done with this thread, and I have dusted off a couple, is unearthed them, dug them partially up, started to examine them.
Ideally they would be on display and part of the core curriculum of life.
It would progress human understanding, and make it much more difficult to manipulate and control the human mind.

**Devout Agnostic** · (This post was last modified: 12-02-2012 02:29 AM by Devout Agnostic.)

Johntaraz Wrote:

Poignant symbol refresher example with the Anarchy "A for authority" being subsumed in the pyramid of hierarchical power, thanks. The diagonal slash being the cancellation of the power, or the crossing of the pyramid, or something else?

A is the first letter of the alphabet, is that by chance or design?

That's an interesting observation, it could certainly figure into the overall imagery. I assume from the freemasonic origins of the symbol's use politically, that it is a square and compass (or square and 'ruler', if you prefer) stylized for grafitti purposes. As such, it also forms an incomplete pentagram when the center line is extended out to the circle's edge.

The history of freemasonry, guilds and trade unions are very intertwined:
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