GREY LENSMAN  Wrote:

NO SILLY THINGS, YOU MISUNDERSTAND

ITS LIKE THIS

1. THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED
2. YOU PAY THE TAX
3. THE CARBON (SIC) GOES DOWN
4. YOUR MONEY GETS EXPORTED TO HELP THE LESS WELL OFF

WHAT COULD BE BETTER.

NOW, SETTLE DOWN, SUCK THE THUMB, GO BACK TO SLEEP.

GL

1. The science is not settled but this is irrelevant. Companies that pollute for free without having to give a f*ck are going to be made more accountable.

2. Everyone pays. The more energy you use, the more pollution you create, the more you pay. The low-income get breaks.

3. With a financial cost attached, awareness and energy-thrift will increase. Reducing pollution will be considered.

4. The money stays in Australia.

It is a brave move and it will be difficult to implement but the status quo needs to be addressed.

Lensman is either paid to do this kind of debunking or is the worst kind of cynic who sits alone telling people how things should be done when all the time doing nothing themselves.

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Zero Point  Wrote:

Correct.
A unit of measure for your life.

Must be lonely talking to yourself......

Your life is not measured by the energy you consume from utility companies , nor is it measured by the carbon cycle....

You really think people are just going to pay the carbon tax when they didn't even get the small company tax cut forecast in the budget?

Everyone knows it's a scam, no-one's going to pay it.... it's going to be like getting blood from a stone....

Just shows how out of touch these guys are, everyone knows about the scam since Copenhagen... and Al Gore's bullshit data...

We don't need all this energy, especially with the technology suppressed these days, everyones wakign up to this bullshit... life controlled slave crap

Gina Rhinehart is earning $500 a second, if you have a salary of $70k, it would take over 400,000 years before you matched what she is earning

The awakening has begun, and the average joe ain;t gonna put up with this shit anymore....

You'll pay it or have a dark house mate.
We've even stooped to getting quotes for solar panels on the roof.
Bring on "free" energy, it won't come without a fight.

Zero Point  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Must be lonely talking to yourself......

Your life is not measured by the energy you consume from utility companies , nor is it measured by the carbon cycle....

You really think people are just going to pay the carbon tax when they didn't even get the small company tax cut forecast in the budget?

Everyone knows it's a scam, no-one's going to pay it.... it's going to be like getting blood from a stone....

Just shows how out of touch these guys are, everyone knows about the scam since Copenhagen... and Al Gore's bullshit data...

We don't need all this energy, especially with the technology suppressed these days, everyones wakign up to this bullshit... life controlled slave crap

Gina Rhinehart is earning $500 a second, if you have a salary of $70k, it would take over 400,000 years before you matched what she is earning

The awakening has begun, and the average joe ain;t gonna put up with this shit anymore....

You'll pay it or have a dark house mate.
We've even stooped to getting quotes for solar panels on the roof.
Bring on "free" energy, it won't come without a fight.

You say stooped, yet you live in one of the most sun-exposed places on Earth, it should have dawned on each and every one of you a long time ago to get solar panels.

"Let's waste finite resources which we need to import in even though we have an infinite source."

Now the tax is being implemented you are forced into making necessary changes. That is evolution.

We only evolve when obstacles are put in our path.

Zero Point  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Must be lonely talking to yourself......

Your life is not measured by the energy you consume from utility companies , nor is it measured by the carbon cycle....

You really think people are just going to pay the carbon tax when they didn't even get the small company tax cut forecast in the budget?

Everyone knows it's a scam, no-one's going to pay it.... it's going to be like getting blood from a stone....

Just shows how out of touch these guys are, everyone knows about the scam since Copenhagen... and Al Gore's bullshit data...

We don't need all this energy, especially with the technology suppressed these days, everyones wakign up to this bullshit... life controlled slave crap

Gina Rhinehart is earning $500 a second, if you have a salary of $70k, it would take over 400,000 years before you matched what she is earning

The awakening has begun, and the average joe ain;t gonna put up with this shit anymore....

You'll pay it or have a dark house mate.
We've even stooped to getting quotes for solar panels on the roof.
Bring on "free" energy, it won't come without a fight.

You say stooped, yet you live in one of the most sun-exposed places on Earth, it should have dawned on each and every one of you a long time ago to get solar panels.

"Let's waste finite resources which we need to import in even though we have an infinite source."

Now the tax is being implemented you are forced into making necessary changes. That is evolution.

We only evolve when obstacles are put in our path.

Wow

Yeah to the best of my knowledge Grey the goal is to trade carbon credits on Wall Street.

I don't know this world anymore. Psychopaths rule


vv

diggerbanks  Wrote:

GREY LENSMAN  Wrote:

NO SILLY THINGS, YOU MISUNDERSTAND

ITS LIKE THIS

1. THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED
2. YOU PAY THE TAX
3. THE CARBON (SIC) GOES DOWN
4. YOUR MONEY GETS EXPORTED TO HELP THE LESS WELL OFF

WHAT COULD BE BETTER.

NOW, SETTLE DOWN, SUCK THE THUMB, GO BACK TO SLEEP.

GL

1. The science is not settled but this is irrelevant. Companies that pollute for free without having to give a f*ck are going to be made more accountable.

2. Everyone pays. The more energy you use, the more pollution you create, the more you pay. The low-income get breaks.

3. With a financial cost attached, awareness and energy-thrift will increase. Reducing pollution will be considered.

4. The money stays in Australia.

It is a brave move and it will be difficult to implement but the status quo needs to be addressed.

Lensman is either paid to do this kind of debunking or is the worst kind of cynic who sits alone telling people how things should be done when all the time doing nothing themselves.

Your input is a given on these matters and has become unnecessary.

Zero Point  Wrote:

diggerbanks  Wrote:

1. The science is not settled but this is irrelevant. Companies that pollute for free without having to give a f*ck are going to be made more accountable.

2. Everyone pays. The more energy you use, the more pollution you create, the more you pay. The low-income get breaks.

3. With a financial cost attached, awareness and energy-thrift will increase. Reducing pollution will be considered.

4. The money stays in Australia.

It is a brave move and it will be difficult to implement but the status quo needs to be addressed.

Lensman is either paid to do this kind of debunking or is the worst kind of cynic who sits alone telling people how things should be done when all the time doing nothing themselves.

Your input is a given on these matters and has become unnecessary.

It never has been necessary. I always face a huge wall of deflection, ignorance and mean-spiritedness when I try and offer a wider perspective.

You would deny me my opinion?

diggerbanks  Wrote:

Zero Point  Wrote:

You'll pay it or have a dark house mate.
We've even stooped to getting quotes for solar panels on the roof.
Bring on "free" energy, it won't come without a fight.

You say stooped, yet you live in one of the most sun-exposed places on Earth, it should have dawned on each and every one of you a long time ago to get solar panels.

"Let's waste finite resources which we need to import in even though we have an infinite source."

Now the tax is being implemented you are forced into making necessary changes. That is evolution.

We only evolve when obstacles are put in our path.

I was in the solar game for a bit. Excessive sun exposure (heat) reduces the efficiency of solar panels.

Additionally, go and research this....http://www.hazardexonthenet.net/article/49856/German-chemical-plant-explosion-throws-global-car-industry-into-turmoil.aspx

Your evolution has hit a speed bump mate.

You will need about half an hour to grasp the ramifications.

GREY LENSMAN  Wrote:

NO SILLY THINGS, YOU MISUNDERSTAND

ITS LIKE THIS

1. THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED
2. YOU PAY THE TAX
3. THE CARBON (SIC) GOES DOWN
4. YOUR MONEY GETS EXPORTED TO HELP THE LESS WELL OFF

WHAT COULD BE BETTER.

NOW, SETTLE DOWN, SUCK THE THUMB, GO BACK TO SLEEP.

GL

1. The science is not settled but this is irrelevant. Companies that pollute for free without having to give a f*ck are going to be made more accountable.

2. Everyone pays. The more energy you use, the more pollution you create, the more you pay. The low-income get breaks.

3. With a financial cost attached, awareness and energy-thrift will increase. Reducing pollution will be considered.

4. The money stays in Australia.

It is a brave move and it will be difficult to implement but the status quo needs to be addressed.

Lensman is either paid to do this kind of debunking or is the worst kind of cynic who sits alone telling people how things should be done when all the time doing nothing themselves.

Baldrick  Wrote:

diggerbanks  Wrote:

You say stooped, yet you live in one of the most sun-exposed places on Earth, it should have dawned on each and every one of you a long time ago to get solar panels.

"Let's waste finite resources which we need to import in even though we have an infinite source."

Now the tax is being implemented you are forced into making necessary changes. That is evolution.

We only evolve when obstacles are put in our path.

I was in the solar game for a bit. Excessive sun exposure (heat) reduces the efficiency of solar panels.

Additionally, go and research this....http://www.hazardexonthenet.net/article/49856/German-chemical-plant-explosion-throws-global-car-industry-into-turmoil.aspx

Your evolution has hit a speed bump mate.

You will need about half an hour to grasp the ramifications.

Obstacles are overcome. A speedbump isn't even an obstacle.

Why is it everything is set in stone with you people? No wonder you all cry like babies when someone wants to make you think about your actions.

Baldrick  Wrote:

diggerbanks  Wrote:

You say stooped, yet you live in one of the most sun-exposed places on Earth, it should have dawned on each and every one of you a long time ago to get solar panels.

"Let's waste finite resources which we need to import in even though we have an infinite source."

Now the tax is being implemented you are forced into making necessary changes. That is evolution.

We only evolve when obstacles are put in our path.

I was in the solar game for a bit. Excessive sun exposure (heat) reduces the efficiency of solar panels.

Additionally, go and research this....http://www.hazardexonthenet.net/article/49856/German-chemical-plant-explosion-throws-global-car-industry-into-turmoil.aspx

Your evolution has hit a speed bump mate.

You will need about half an hour to grasp the ramifications.

Obstacles are overcome. A speedbump isn't even an obstacle.

Why is it everything is set in stone with you people? No wonder you all cry like babies when someone wants to make you think about your actions.

diggerbanks  Wrote:

Baldrick  Wrote:

I was in the solar game for a bit. Excessive sun exposure (heat) reduces the efficiency of solar panels.

Additionally, go and research this....http://www.hazardexonthenet.net/article/49856/German-chemical-plant-explosion-throws-global-car-industry-into-turmoil.aspx

Your evolution has hit a speed bump mate.

You will need about half an hour to grasp the ramifications.

Obstacles are overcome. A speedbump isn't even an obstacle.

Why is it everything is set in stone with you people? No wonder you all cry like babies when someone wants to make you think about your actions.

Go and read it. Your post indicates your position is unmovable due to lack of research. Like I said, it will take half hour to realise the full ramifications.

It matters not whether solar is the answer or not.

diggerbanks  Wrote:

GREY LENSMAN  Wrote:

NO SILLY THINGS, YOU MISUNDERSTAND

ITS LIKE THIS

1. THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED
2. YOU PAY THE TAX
3. THE CARBON (SIC) GOES DOWN
4. YOUR MONEY GETS EXPORTED TO HELP THE LESS WELL OFF

WHAT COULD BE BETTER.

NOW, SETTLE DOWN, SUCK THE THUMB, GO BACK TO SLEEP.

GL

1. The science is not settled but this is irrelevant. Companies that pollute for free without having to give a f*ck are going to be made more accountable.

2. Everyone pays. The more energy you use, the more pollution you create, the more you pay. The low-income get breaks.

3. With a financial cost attached, awareness and energy-thrift will increase. Reducing pollution will be considered.

4. The money stays in Australia.

It is a brave move and it will be difficult to implement but the status quo needs to be addressed.

Lensman is either paid to do this kind of debunking or is the worst kind of cynic who sits alone telling people how things should be done when all the time doing nothing themselves.

For 15 years, I paid through the nose to have 100% green energy but now that I'm going to be paying for 'pollution' I have not produced, I have gone back to buying cheap, dirty energy.

There's no way I'm going to pay for green energy AND pay a tax on everything I buy when I have not polluted. I know others who are doing the same.... so hows that pollution reduction scheme working for ya?




PS: Check out Norway which has had the CO2 tax for 10 years. Their carbon emissions are still rising year after year yet they're getting poorer. f*cking great solution, 'mate'.