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Psychonaut Wrote:

ThreshingSword Wrote:
What a great and eloquent speech. I wonder if he memorized and rehearsed that. I mean who can talk off the cuff like that and have it sounding so polished? I felt like I was listening to a modern-day Gettysburg Address.

If you're new to the Molyneux sound...and like what you hear....check out his yooper page and sub up. The man lays it down like few others can...

http://www.youtube.com/user/stefbot?blen...ustangbase

Never heard of him. Thanks. I'll check it out.

**Gibbie** · **Gibbie** ^D ^D ^D whoa User ID: 34710 12-18-2011 12:48 AM **Posts: 7,187**

Psychonaut Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Well your half wrong. It is about the WAR TO TERRORIZE AMERICAN. If Americans are terrorized and left without dignity, they will never rise up. A terrorized people is so much easier to control, and eventually massacre.

And you're only half wrong. Throughout history, oligarchies who terrorize their citizens are eventuality faced with MASSIVE public uprisings and are eventually toppled (or worse)

I think think Molyneux's points deserve a pin, but I am afraid that most won't take the time to watch it through...

....on second thought, there might be a few who will bother, so damn the torpedoes...

The Russian's don't fit that picture at all. Millions were murdered and nothing was ever done to stop it.

**HardHawk**

Psychonaut Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Well your half wrong. It is about the WAR TO TERRORIZE AMERICAN. If Americans are terrorized and left without dignity, they will never rise up. A terrorized people is so much easier to control, and eventually massacre.

And you're only half wrong. Throughout history, oligarchies who terrorize their citizens are eventuality faced with MASSIVE public uprisings and are eventually toppled (or worse)

I think think Molyneux's points deserve a pin, but I am afraid that most won't take the time to watch it through...

....on second thought, there might be a few who will bother, so damn the torpedoes...

You just make me watch it and yes it does worth a pin.

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**HardHawk**

Gibbie Wrote:

The Russian's don't fit that picture at all. Millions were murdered and nothing was ever done to stop it.

To your opinion. How you know if nothing done to be stopped?

Unless you are with the believe what mass media sold to the idiots as they selling it the same way now, that Regan break down USSR? chuckle

**Johntaraz**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Well your half wrong. It is about the WAR TO TERRORIZE AMERICAN. If Americans are terrorized and left without dignity, they will never rise up. A terrorized people is so much easier to control, and eventually massacre.

Fear is a valuable weapon to use against people you want to control.

There have not been any completely credible terrorist attacks by foreigners on US soil (that was not coordinated, supported, or monitored by elite insider interests). I personally don't believe the omissions, lies, fabrications, and manipulations of the msm stories. Propaganda.

The war on terror is a war of aggression waged against a set of regimes with ideological differences, natural resources, and strategic locations. It has nothing to do with american citizens - other than it is in direct opposition to their interests, and will be used as an ongoing campaign to silence any opposition through fear and control, to finalize global tyranny and perpetual serfdom/eugenics.

"As the government runs out of fiat currency, it grows more fearful of the people." - comment from the link

I find it a brilliant way to understand what is going on.

"American Detention Has Nothing to do with the War on Terror"

I would phrase it: "American Detention Has Nothing to do with the War on Terror, and everything to do with the Terror War on Americans".

If you can separate yourself from the fear, and when you experience some - use it as leverage for your preparations and courage building.
Recognize it as a weapon used by an enemy.
Fear is irrational because it causes fight or flight instinctual impulses - important for split second life saftey decisions - devastating on health and well-being when it is continuous and demoralizing.

You are who you choose to be.

**Looky** · **Looky** PRO-NAPPER User ID: 67990 12-18-2011 01:49 AM **Posts: 8,716**

Thank you to every one who brought this to my attention.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 68427 12-18-2011 01:53 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

DOOOOOM!!!

Pretty much.

**Gibbie** · **Gibbie** ^D ^D ^D whoa User ID: 34710 12-18-2011 02:04 AM **Posts: 7,187**

HardHawk Wrote:

Gibbie Wrote:
The Russian's don't fit that picture at all. Millions were murdered and nothing was ever done to stop it.

To your opinion. How you know if nothing done to be stopped?

Unless you are with the believe what mass media sold to the idiots as they selling it the same way now, that Regan break down USSR?

Well if anything was done to stop the purges I never heard of it.

**OneSmartRat** · (This post was last modified: 12-18-2011 03:57 AM by OneSmartRat.)

smerve Wrote:

YouTube Video -- President Obama Signs National Defense Authorization Act

Saturday 17 December 2011.

National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) codifies indefinite detention without trial into US law and expands the military’s role in holding terrorism suspects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=2w-j87Q0uKM

http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/12/14/us-refusal-veto-detainee-bill-historic-tragedy-rights

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/december152011/defense-bill-tk.php

Interestingly, and not without a potent message to those that are observant, Obama waited until today to sign this treasonous Defense Authorization Bill. December 17th is both the date of the self-immolation of Mohamed Bouazizi, the Tunisian street merchant who set himself on fire, sparking (no pun intended) the Tunisian Revolution and subsequently, the Arab Spring ...and just by coincidence, December 17th is also the birthday of Bradley E. Manning, the American soldier who allegedly released the secret cables and other documents to Wikileaks; among them, the cables that revealed just how corrupt the Tunisian Government was ...which Bouazizi apparently read and became outraged and demoralized before he set himself on fire to protest.

I find it no accident that Mr. Obama, the brilliant genus that he is, would not know what this date represents and how the bill he is signing ON THIS DATE containing this Totalitarian Detention 'Law' directly intended to send a very clear message to all of us; especially those in the Occupy Movement as well as the Arab Community at large.

This date will surely not be forgotten too soon, for any number of reasons now. This date will become both ours (U.S.), and the Arab People's '5th of November.'

"Remember, remember, the 17th of December."

Pro Libertate!
-OSR

**Coolchick**

OneSmartRat Wrote:

smerve Wrote:
YouTube Video -- President Obama Signs National Defense Authorization Act

Saturday 17 December 2011.

National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) codifies indefinite detention without trial into US law and expands the military’s role in holding terrorism suspects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=2w-j87Q0uKM

http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/12/14/us-refusal-veto-detainee-bill-historic-tragedy-rights

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/december152011/defense-bill-tk.php

Interestingly, and not without a potent message to those that are observant, Obama waited until today to sign this treasonous Defense Authorization Bill. December 17th is both the date of the self-immolation of Mohamed Bouaziz, the Tunisian street merchant who set himself on fire, sparking (no pun intended) the Tunisian Revolution and subsequently, the Arab Spring ...and just by coincidence, December 17th is also the birthday of Bradley E. Manning, the American soldier who allegedly released the secret cables and other documents to Wikileaks; among them, the cables that revealed just how corrupt the Tunisian Government was ...which Bouazizi apparently read and became outraged and demoralized before he set himself on fire to protest.

I find it no accident that Mr. Obama, the brilliant genus that he is, would not know what this date represents and how the bill he is signing ON THIS DATE containing this Totalitarian Detention 'Law' directly intended to send a very clear message to all of us; especially those in the Occupy Movement as well as the Arab Community at large.

This date will surely not be forgotten too soon, for any number of reasons now. This date will become both ours (U.S.), and the Arab People's '5th of November.'

"Remember, remember, the 17th of December."

Pro Libertate!
-OSR

that, is very interesting..
yes indeed. a powerful time..
i was just talking to my sister out back about these very powerful times..
i shall pass this along to her as i am going back out.
i would like to welcome you, she has told me a little about you and not very long ago, interestingly enough.
but now it the time and it makes sense..
she says hi and welcome also.. - from October :)

**Psychonaut** lop guest User ID: 59197 12-18-2011 03:31 AM

Gibbie Wrote:

Psychonaut Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
Well your half wrong. It is about the WAR TO TERRORIZE AMERICAN. If Americans are terrorized and left without dignity, they will never rise up. A terrorized people is so much easier to control, and eventually massacre.

And you're only half wrong. Throughout history, oligarchies who terrorize their citizens are eventuality faced with MASSIVE public uprisings and are eventually toppled (or worse)

I think think Molyneux's points deserve a pin, but I am afraid that most won't take the time to watch it through...

....on second thought, there might be a few who will bother, so damn the torpedoes...

The Russian's don't fit that picture at all. Millions were murdered and nothing was ever done to stop it.

Huh?

If I remember correctly the USSR no longer exists. The key word in my post was EVENTUALLY...and the big gal hasn't yet been muted in China, North Korea...etc etc....on and on

**DanfromtheHills**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaeZoufcFW8

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 68452 12-18-2011 04:13 AM

ThreshingSword Wrote:

What a great and eloquent speech. I wonder if he memorized and rehearsed that. I mean who can talk off the cuff like that and have it sounding so polished? I felt like I was listening to a modern-day Gettysburg Address.

He must use talking points. I hate him because he makes me feel so inferior in ability to discern and speak. He's a genius.

**ThreshingSword**

LoP Guest Wrote:

ThreshingSword Wrote:
What a great and eloquent speech. I wonder if he memorized and rehearsed that. I mean who can talk off the cuff like that and have it sounding so polished? I felt like I was listening to a modern-day Gettysburg Address.

He must use talking points. I hate him because he makes me feel so inferior in ability to discern and speak. He's a genius.

Lol. I wonder if he had training in this, Toastmasters, etc.