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Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
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Astrochik seeking the truth - good or bad User ID: 55237 04-25-2012 08:01 PM
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Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
Quote:As Cameron knows, Apple is a byword of everyday sleekness. Yet there is another way of viewing the company. Focus instead on the way it does business, and all those iPhones, iPods and iPads aren't just exemplars of design and user-friendliness: they are devices that destroy western jobs. And they do so needlessly, because if the California-based giant manufactured its goods in America rather than China, it could still make profits that would be the envy of every other US business.
Quote:Using a mix of Apple's own filings and industry data, the academics broke down the cost of making one product in particular: the wildly popular 4G iPhone. Assembled in China, the total cost of putting together just one phone was $178.45. Compare that with a sale price (including downloads) of $630 and Apple makes $452 on each phone: a whacking gross margin of 72%.
Chinese labour accounts for a tiny proportion of the company's costs: $7.10 for each phone, which accounts for about eight hours of assembly. So what would it cost to make the same iPhone in America? The Cresc team took the average wage in the US electronics industry of $21 per hour and calculated that the total production cost would increase to $337.01. That is a big jump – but it still leaves Apple with a gross margin of 46.5% on each iPhone – a level that Cresc's Sukhdev Johal estimates would probably still make it the most profitable phone in the world.
So: two models of making one of Apple's most popular products, and two models for distributing the profits. The made-in-America model still leaves the California giant with a profit margin that most companies can only dream of, but would create hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs in the US to boot. That may strike you as laughably naive, but it's more akin to enlightened self-interest: just think of the way Henry Ford raised wages so Ford workers could buy his cars.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/201...us-workers
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Moco lop guest User ID: 49195 04-25-2012 08:05 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
Because they are too expensive verses slave labor of chinkville.
"be an obedient worker, and work for shit." not dissing the pop, but the controllers.
Do you understand what it takes for employers to pay hellcare premiums in this country????
At the end of the day, the math does not ADD UP!
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Richard Eldritch Hussar! User ID: 91215 04-25-2012 08:08 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
Moco Wrote:Because they are too expensive verses slave labor of chinkville.
"be an obedient worker, and work for shit." not dissing the pop, but the controllers.
Do you understand what it takes for employers to pay hellcare premiums in this country????
At the end of the day, the math does not ADD UP!
hellcare?  true though, who wants to pay 3grand for a Yank built I phone?
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Americans 1st Registered User User ID: 92146 04-25-2012 08:08 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
Americans should stop buying their products. Of course, that would take sacrifice something that many..although they b*tch and moan, will never do.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)
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Richard Eldritch Hussar! User ID: 91215 04-25-2012 08:10 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
Americans 1st Wrote:Americans should stop buying their products. Of course, that would take sacrifice something that many..although they b*tch and moan, will never do.
Nobody buys american stuff because it's crap. (Apart from your military hardware and Guns. Go figure....)
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Richard Eldritch Hussar! User ID: 91215 04-25-2012 08:11 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
Oh and your Nerdware is pretty good, It's just the Jock stuff that sucks.....
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 55564 04-25-2012 08:13 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
Richard Eldritch Wrote:Americans 1st Wrote:Americans should stop buying their products. Of course, that would take sacrifice something that many..although they b*tch and moan, will never do.
Nobody buys american stuff because it's crap. (Apart from your military hardware and Guns. Go figure....)
LOL, and WTF does Britain produce? Isn't like 75% of your economy financial services?
That's something to be proud of there.
You guys had 1 f*cking car company left, and now they are owned by India.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 44359 04-25-2012 08:14 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
Well then they would have to charge more for the iphone... but people would be making money here and could afford it if they were being paid here to make it... oh but that makes too much sense. I wonder what the profit margin is on these things? 70-80%? I bet it is.
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Richard Eldritch Hussar! User ID: 91215 04-25-2012 08:16 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
LoP Guest Wrote:Richard Eldritch Wrote:Americans 1st Wrote:Americans should stop buying their products. Of course, that would take sacrifice something that many..although they b*tch and moan, will never do.
Nobody buys american stuff because it's crap. (Apart from your military hardware and Guns. Go figure....)
LOL, and WTF does Britain produce? Isn't like 75% of your economy financial services?
That's something to be proud of there.
You guys had 1 f*cking car company left, and now they are owned by India.
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
They should if they want to break everyones windows. Fact is we make loads of great stuff here, but it's all top end gear like racing cars (We build your Indy cars by the way) And then theres Big Phama which we do well, oh and our advertising agencies are the worlds best. and our TV and film is much envied. And of course theres our R and D which is peerless, and our programmers. but apart from those we're shit really but we don't care.
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Americans 1st Registered User User ID: 92146 04-25-2012 08:18 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
Richard Eldritch Wrote:Americans 1st Wrote:Americans should stop buying their products. Of course, that would take sacrifice something that many..although they b*tch and moan, will never do.
Nobody buys american stuff because it's crap. (Apart from your military hardware and Guns. Go figure....)
But you have no problem with American goods and Americans themselves defending Israel. That need to change.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." Samuel Adams, (1722-1803)
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 70676 04-25-2012 08:19 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
American's are fat and lazy
They do not want to work. Work is a bad word in America
Apple isn't stupid, they know this.
They know that millions of Americans would rather sit on their asses and collect unemployment or government funding.
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Richard Eldritch Hussar! User ID: 91215 04-25-2012 08:21 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
PS all the bits that keep you safe on a plane are british things. The seats the French make.....
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Leopardsands Goth Pug User ID: 76478 04-25-2012 08:22 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
Microsoft employs India.
Everybody else is abusing Chinese.
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Richard Eldritch Hussar! User ID: 91215 04-25-2012 08:22 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
Americans 1st Wrote:Richard Eldritch Wrote:Americans 1st Wrote:Americans should stop buying their products. Of course, that would take sacrifice something that many..although they b*tch and moan, will never do.
Nobody buys american stuff because it's crap. (Apart from your military hardware and Guns. Go figure....)
But you have no problem with American goods and Americans themselves defending Israel. That need to change.
Israel needs a place but they've gone to far I think, However I am an Ignorant plonker, so I could be wrong.....
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Richard Eldritch Hussar! User ID: 91215 04-25-2012 08:23 PM
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RE: Apple: why doesn't it employ more US workers?
LoP Guest Wrote:American's are fat and lazy
They do not want to work. Work is a bad word in America
Apple isn't stupid, they know this.
They know that millions of Americans would rather sit on their asses and collect unemployment or government funding.
YOU BE QUIET !! ANG GET MY EGG FLIED LICE.....Iriot.
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