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**anton** lop guest User ID: 96883 06-18-2012 05:00 AM

psychotic losers who can't hold down a job and have anti social personalities?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 77320 06-18-2012 05:01 AM

anton Wrote:

psychotic losers who can't hold down a job and have anti social personalities?

There are no true anarchists.

**Ka$h Killa** lop guest User ID: 102610 06-18-2012 05:08 AM

anton Wrote:

psychotic losers who can't hold down a job and have anti social personalities?

Could be. If they are like me, i guess.

Or they could be more normal, like this http://propagandalalaland.blogspot.com/

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 80549 06-18-2012 05:10 AM

anton Wrote:

psychotic losers who can't hold down a job and have anti social personalities?

Anarchists at heart are dreamers who believe that people are capable of managing their own behavior. Anarchists pine for freedom with a passion. Unfortunately, sadly people do not seem capable of managing their own behavior...yet. So anarchists; dreamers, poets, passionate dreamers will have to wait...a little longer

**vintagevixen**

LoP Guest Wrote:

anton Wrote:
psychotic losers who can't hold down a job and have anti social personalities?

Anarchists at heart are dreamers who believe that people are capable of managing their own behavior. Anarchists pine for freedom with a passion. Unfortunately, sadly people do not seem capable of managing their own behavior...yet. So anarchists; dreamers, poets, passionate dreamers will have to wait...a little longer

^This^

count me in.

vv

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 77320 06-18-2012 05:19 AM

vintagevixen Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
anton Wrote:
psychotic losers who can't hold down a job and have anti social personalities?

Anarchists at heart are dreamers who believe that people are capable of managing their own behavior. Anarchists pine for freedom with a passion. Unfortunately, sadly people do not seem capable of managing their own behavior...yet. So anarchists; dreamers, poets, passionate dreamers will have to wait...a little longer

^This^

count me in.

vv

Anarchism is flawed for the fact that there is always a system of sorts.

If you have children and you parent them, you are not anarchist.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 55042 06-18-2012 05:20 AM

In the US they are called libertarians and get a cult following if running for president.

Before you get all, "nuh uh. Libertarians aren't anarchists", you'd better do some research about your beloved ideology.

**Luvapottamus**

LoP Guest Wrote:

anton Wrote:
psychotic losers who can't hold down a job and have anti social personalities?

Anarchists at heart are dreamers who believe that people are capable of managing their own behavior. Anarchists pine for freedom with a passion. Unfortunately, sadly people do not seem capable of managing their own behavior...yet. So anarchists; dreamers, poets, passionate dreamers will have to wait...a little longer

Well, I have no problem per se with self-determination, but anarchists tend to overlook the psychopath/sociopath issue.

Also a complex economy like we have requires a lot of coerced cooperation.

I think it could be adjusted so that we aren't dependent on that, but right now we are.

You can't just "kill the money" without killing lots of people.

You can't just kill the coercive system without the same result. Has to be a deliberative gradual transition.

If you can get everybody to agree.

chuckle

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 62850 06-18-2012 05:22 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

In the US they are called libertarians and get a cult following if running for president.

Before you get all, "nuh uh. Libertarians aren't anarchists", you'd better do some research about your beloved ideology.

I was just about to say that.

Okay...who's got the cloner?

**vintagevixen**

Luvapottamus Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
anton Wrote:
psychotic losers who can't hold down a job and have anti social personalities?

Anarchists at heart are dreamers who believe that people are capable of managing their own behavior. Anarchists pine for freedom with a passion. Unfortunately, sadly people do not seem capable of managing their own behavior...yet. So anarchists; dreamers, poets, passionate dreamers will have to wait...a little longer

Well, I have no problem per se with self-determination, but anarchists tend to overlook the psychopath/sociopath issue.

Also a complex economy like we have requires a lot of coerced cooperation.

I think it could be adjusted so that we aren't dependent on that, but right now we are.

You can't just "kill the money" without killing lots of people.

You can't just kill the coercive system without the same result. Has to be a deliberative gradual transition.

If you can get everybody to agree.

I agree with your statement also Luv. One needs to be practical and realizing that it is the dysfunctional ones who gravitate to the power, probably since the beginning of civilization.

Hell I'm no anarchist chuckle

(work 9-5 job with a mortgage) but I feel that freedom is the most important thing for a human and our current system is no longer working anymore for the average citizen.

Could be worse though in the US but we are a speeding train wreck that hasn't crashed just yet.

vv

**Pope Barbie Imaculata**

All anarchists are cops playing anarchists for the purpose of starting riots and keeping DHS grants.

**Ka$h Killa** lop guest User ID: 102610 06-18-2012 05:37 AM

barbsat Wrote:

All anarchists are cops playing anarchists for the purpose of starting riots and keeping DHS grants.

So your calling me a cop? A snitch?

**Luvapottamus**

Ka$hKilla Wrote:

barbsat Wrote:
All anarchists are cops playing anarchists for the purpose of starting riots and keeping DHS grants.

So your calling me a cop? A snitch?

**Pope Barbie Imaculata**

Ka$hKilla Wrote:

barbsat Wrote:
All anarchists are cops playing anarchists for the purpose of starting riots and keeping DHS grants.

So your calling me a cop? A snitch?

Show us your shoes cop.

**Fester**

Stefan Molyneux suggests that what we are living in now more closely resembles anarchy and I have to agree. Are not the biggest mobs running the world? Is the rule of law being evenly applied?

Even in anarchy there can be rules and protection from sociopaths. Some good stuff from this guy:
http://www.freedomainradio.com/