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The Feds, Harry Reid, and the Showdown at Bundy Ranch!
northerntomcat
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Post: #976
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Cliven Bundy, the last known rancher in Clark County, Nev., has been battling the U.S. Bureau of Land Management since 1993, when he refused to pay fees for the right to graze on an area called Gold Butte around his farm, according to the AP.

Then they say:

But the feds assert that the cattle are trespassing on the habitat of the endangered desert tortoise, which they control.

This is greed,nothing more than a cash grab.

Either way the BLM is in direct contradiction to their own charter.

EustaceMullins-

Shooting a rocket next to a school, hospital or UN building is not hiding behind kids you asshol!
(This post was last modified: 04-11-2014 03:48 AM by northerntomcat.)
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Post: #977
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AC488  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:31 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:29 AM)
I see another of Waco coming their way

This will be way bigger than that. History is being made at this moment.

Wanna bet?

that's just your wishful thinking

and belies an inexperienced and unwise perspective

just wait and see
(This post was last modified: 04-11-2014 03:50 AM by 945612.)
Viraja
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Post: #978
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:29 AM)


There is something off about Pete Santilli. I mean besides the trivial quirks and idiosyncrasies, and besides the point of him being a mediocre journalist. Something else. I smell CI. I hope I am wrong.
northerntomcat
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Post: #979
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northerntomcat  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:40 AM)
Not sure if this has been posted yet.




EustaceMullins-

Shooting a rocket next to a school, hospital or UN building is not hiding behind kids you asshol!
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Post: #980
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Just a word of caution, Pete Santili is not to is NOT to be trusted.

he has back stabbed a lot of people. He lies and manipulates. His tactics are far better suited for the Jerry Springer show than for the liberty movement. Anyone who is foolish enough to trust him will learn soon enough that he uses everyone and couldn't care less about anyone or anything except how they can help him become more famous and make more money.
Viraja
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Post: #981
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945612  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:46 AM)
AC488  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:31 AM)
This will be way bigger than that. History is being made at this moment.

Wanna bet?

that's just your wishful thinking

and belies an experienced and unwise perspective

just wait and see

Perhaps you should take some lessons in grammar, rhetoric, and expository writing. Then come on back and give pontification another whirl?
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Post: #982
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:25 AM)
how did the govt get rid of the indians?
they slaughtered the free roaming buffalo and starved them.
then they "helped" the starving indians by moving them off their land and relocated them on reservations.

how can the govt get rid of the ranchers?
they will slaughter their cattle, and force them out of business, and starve them. then they will "help the ranchers" by taking their land and relocating them to a city.

the public land Bundy is using, is put aside for use by the public. this includes mining, logging, AND GRAZING cattle. as long as he pays his taxes on his private property(his home and ranch), and pays income taxes on the profit of his cattle business, he is following the law.

how can the govt get rid of free American private property owners?
they will take away their rights to hunt and fish, raise cattle, plant vegtables, log, mine, buy and sell anything, defend themselves,
and use free flowing water. Then when the citizens are starving and broke, they will be relocated to fema camps, so the govt can "help" them.

the scariest words ever: hi. we're from the govt, and we are here to help you.

Hiding

Like the last time, the zionists will confiscate everything, keep the people corralled using the TSA / DHS / Drones, then watch as the people die. Ukrainian Holodomor, a real holocaust.

"We have stirred up every political, social and minority group. We have armed all sides. We have labeled authority as a target for every ambition. Abuses of power will be the final touch in preparing all institutions for their overthrow. Everything will then fall to pieces under the attacks of angry mobs." PROTOCOLS #3 & #4
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Post: #983
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:40 AM)
Just look at the real Bundy family ! this is truly an American family going to be destroyed because of greed ! GOD HELP THESE PEOPLE !

http://bundyranch.blogspot.com/p/pictures.html

Did you read his blog entry on the Desert Tortoise??? It was awesome!!!

It's called: DESERT TORTOISE – OH, GIVE ME A HOME! (sept 25, 2013)

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Viraja
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Post: #984
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Evilpony  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:49 AM)
Just a word of caution, Pete Santili is not to is NOT to be trusted.

he has back stabbed a lot of people. He lies and manipulates. His tactics are far better suited for the Jerry Springer show than for the liberty movement. Anyone who is foolish enough to trust him will learn soon enough that he uses everyone and couldn't care less about anyone or anything except how they can help him become more famous and make more money.

Hmmm. sounds like confirmation of the suspicion I voiced a few comments before this.
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Post: #985
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:16 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:10 AM)
you are f*cking ill If you think this is about tortoises

from the daughter

“I have had people ask me to explain my dad’s stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the survival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars.

The rights to the land use are called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the Bureau of Land Management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repairs and improvements of the ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using these monies against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they’re own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a penance he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren’t doing their job. He quit paying the BLM and tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down.

So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn’t work, they used the endangered species card. You’ve already heard about the desert tortoise. Well that didn’t work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now they’re desperate. It’s come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the Constitution of the United States of America. Then there’s the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn’t paid them, those cattle belong to him, regardless of where they are they are my father’s property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even existed.

Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad’s signature on it. They think they can take them over two borders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfield Auction and sell them. All this with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are? Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks”

http://benswann.com/hundreds-of-armed-fe...z2yWl1Fufu

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Government shills hard at work on trying to derail and bash anyone who supports these poor people ! Disgusting waste of fresh air and a waste of taxpayers money..............f*cking cowards hiding behind your desks trying to change public opinion to justify this unjust act on behalf of the BLM goons .
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Post: #987
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Virajas ghost  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:50 AM)
945612  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:46 AM)
Wanna bet?

that's just your wishful thinking

and belies an inexperienced and unwise perspective

just wait and see

Perhaps you should take some lessons in grammar, rhetoric, and expository writing. Then come on back and give pontification another whirl?

non sequitur
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Post: #988
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DESERT TORTOISE – OH, GIVE ME A HOME! (september 25, 2013)

(Bunkerville, NV) Oh give me a home on the range where my grandfather was not in a box, but his house was a hole in the rocks. If we are going to get these tortoises out of the sanctuary prisons and get them back to their natural habitat on Bundy Ranch, the time is right. The weather has cooled, the summer rains have brought green fresh tortoise feed. Within the next 30 days all the tortoises should be moved. Bundy said, “I have offered to share my ranch with the imprisoned tortoise. I do not want them to be euthanized. I decided to visit the Desert Tortoise Conservation Center (DTCC) to see the 1400 imprisoned tortoises so I could determine how big of a trailer it would take to transfer the tortoise to my ranch. I found Rainbow Blvd. traveled south, which always seems west to this old cowboy when he’s in Las Vegas. I came to the end of the street, made a three-mile detour around a large new subdivision, back to Rainbow Blvd. There I see a heavy steel gate with a badly maintained trail for a road behind it, gate locked and a sign that reads, open two days a week before 12:00 noon. My trip was in vain. I climbed up a bank of dirt to a high vantage point. I could see buildings and fencing. There it is, a tortoise prison. Urban development had sprawled across the Las Vegas valley desert floor, up the slope toward California, new houses almost outreach the tortoise sanctuary.
There was a little breeze in the air. I thought I could hear a whispering sound! Oh, give me a home on the range. Oh, oh, give me a home on the range. I do not want to live in a box any more! I want to go where my grandfathers explored. This sound could be coming from the prison at Jean, Nevada, but I don’t think so. I can hear! Oh, give me a home on the range so I can roam, before the doctor comes and sticks that needle behind my ear! Or before the bulldozer comes to build new homes! My heart sinks a little as I think of what man has done to this creature.”

Bundy said his thoughts went back to how big of a truck do we need to move the tortoise? A recent Las Vegas Review Journal article said that there are 1400 tortoises. If we are in time to save the 700 that were to be euthanized, then there should be 1400 tortoises, but LVRJ also said that the sanctuary had been taking in over 1000 tortoises every year for almost 20 years. Tortoises live over 60 years so most of those tortoises should still be alive. That’s 20,000 tortoises that need to be removed and relocated to their native habitat, but what about the 20,000’s clutches? Each mature female should have laid an 8 to 12 egg clutch and if they all hatched each year there could and should be hundreds of thousands of imprisoned critters. Oh, Bundy said he knows that they try to sex them. He means separate the Hes from the shes. He means the girls from the boys. You know, the tortoise lovers keep the tortoises from loving! Now if the ravens have not flown over the tortoise fence and ate all the juveniles and the stewards that have cared for them have not euthanized them, let’s guess, maybe 100,000 are left alive. A big double-decker cattle truck has 800 sq. ft. of floor space. We will give each tortoise 1 sq. ft. of floor space in the truck. Volunteer tortoise lovers can help carry each tortoise up the ramp into the two storied 50 ft. truck. 800 tortoises per truck divided by 100,000 tortoises, equals 121 truckloads to move to the Bundy Ranch. He said the big trucks could drive across his ranch to deliver the tortoise but the roads are not maintained because the Clark County Road Department and the BLM and Park Service wants it (the land) to go back to wilderness status. We could have tortoise lovers bring ATVs with special padded baskets to transfer tortoises to tortoise habitat where in the 1940’s, 50’s and 60’s, there were lots of cattle, thousands of sheep and abundance of happy tortoises which for thousands of years dug burrows in hard cleechie ledges along washes. These burrows are still waiting to be reshaped and made into their new winter home. WE HAVE A PROBLEM! Lots of roads and trails have Road Closed signs stating, Stay on Designated Road 10-years or $100,000 fine. We cannot risk a tortoise lover who is only trying to get an imprisoned tortoise to its native habitat before getting euthanized. The Good Samaritan will be arrested for getting off the trail and on the grass by a BLM or park service ranger (impersonating a county sheriff) given a ticket or transported to federal jail with a 10-years or $100,000 charge in federal court. That’s just too much risk upon the tortoise’s friends. Too much money, and too much of a hassle and worry to go through the US Federal court system.
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Post: #989
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Virajas ghost  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:47 AM)
There is something off about Pete Santilli. I mean besides the trivial quirks and idiosyncrasies, and besides the point of him being a mediocre journalist. Something else. I smell CI. I hope I am wrong.

He was all over the Patti Brassard thing.

Says about as much about him I need to know.

chuckle

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Post: #990
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sweet  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:26 AM)
flinstone  Wrote: (04-11-2014 03:20 AM)
just an fyi for all the spineless idiots out there...

currently there are between 5 and 6 THOUSAND people converged on this place... and shots have been fired yet no one knows who or what or where.

reinforcements en route. now go find your vagisil.

Jesus Fred. Don't get killed please!!

Be smart and safe.

Hugs

How far away were the shots? If it was after sundown, it could be the BLM is on a night mission slaughtering cattle where they can't be spotted. Either that or it is psychological warfare.








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