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Post: #2612

I had a dream about someone born on the Aquarian and Pisces cusp. Glad to see someone's still on this thread

Post: #2613

Earth Child  Wrote:

Venus Retrograde (May 14 - June 27, 2012)

What does it mean when a planet is in retrograde?
From the earth, if we look up in the sky and watch the motion of the planets against the backdrop of the stars, we usually observe them moving in a forward direction. Occasionally, every celestial body except the Sun and the Moon will appear to slow down in its orbit, stop, and then go backwards, or retrograde, for a period of time.

Venus retrograde occurs about every 18 months and lasts about six weeks. Venus is the planet that represents love, attraction, and money, as well as our aesthetic tastes and basic beliefs about the value of people and objects in our lives.
Retrogrades are times when a planet’s energy is redirected inward, so the whole world experiences it on a more internal level. During Venus retrograde, conditions dealing with love impulses, attraction, values, relationships, beauty, money and possessions are altered and do not function in their usual ways. This affects everyone, regardless of sun sign.

This is a time when we are called upon to go back and take care of unfinished business. Often we are forced to deal with deep feelings that have their origins in past events. They are activated on an inner level but are often difficult to express to ourselves or others while Venus is retrograde. Things become clearer when the retrograde is over.

Read on: http://www.mollysastrology.com/astrology...retrograde

bump and i'll read in the morning

90 min call on venus retrograde here
http://www.evolutionaryastrology.net/ast...s-podcast/

Post: #2614

TY

Post: #2615

The Saturn Return










“Know Thyself”


“Nothing in Excess”


(Two quotes inscribed above the temple at Delphi, Greece)

It has often been said that under strong Saturn transits one can choose between exhaustion and depression---some choice! It implies that because Saturn is often about doing real work in the mundane world that exhaustion is the better choice--- hinting that "it's better to wear out than to rust out"as Mark Twain once said. So folks who understand “just a little” astrology sometimes view the coming of a Saturn Return with raised eyebrows and deep sighs. But then a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.



Saturn brings to mind the two ancient Greek maxims, inscribed at the Temple at Delphi: “Know Thyself" and “Nothing in Excess.” One might think that by understanding and trying to live by these wise sayings one could avoid the great troubles in life. Perhaps they help; but still we seem to suffer. Our understanding of these words change as we age, but life often plays some nasty tricks on us in the meantime. Perhaps this is why we have Saturn transits—it’s a chance to get it right this time.








Saturn is the archetypal symbol for a way of being, or a process that slows us down and makes us take a cold hard look at reality. It can feel like the voice of the inner critic and in ancient times it was seen as “the old malefic” when its passage in the chart was viewed with some suspicion. It has roots in the idea of melancholy, timely delay, and redefining our lives from the very foundation. Despite any fatigue or depression, we are pressured to act at these Saturnian times, and ideally the action we must take will follow the insight and maturity that has been developing over time. For astrologers, it is a topic we are endlessly exploring with our clients.








However Saturn also represents the arrival of the harvest and our reward for hard work and effort. It brings a good harvest if we’re willing to wait. Its passage in a chart---especially at the time of the Saturn Returns-- marks a time when we have an opportunity for deep change and life-changing rewards. Not so bad!








There are two Saturn Returns that happen to everybody—the first is between the ages of twenty-eight and thirty, and the second, between the ages of fifty-eight and sixty. It’s necessary to consult the ephemeris or your astrologer to find the exact date for you, but the feeling of the Saturn Return saturates this whole time period. Astrologically speaking, the first Return is when we truly come into our adulthood, and the second is when we come into the wisdom of the Elder.

It’s true that our culture sees the age of twenty-one as the time of becoming an adult—but not for astrologers. For us it’s twenty-eight. And you may get your Social Security at sixty-five, but it’s at the second Saturn Return at around fifty-eight that your true personal and social security comes up for review. Saturn Returns can be times of rough passages-- or harvest--and they’re usually a bit of both.








The good news is that although Saturn’s transits in our lives may mark times of plain hard work and great self-questioning, it’s also a time when opportunities present themselves and the rewards can be great. Procrastination doesn't look like a good option any more. Perhaps our old lover is finally gone—and there’s someone on the horizon that looks really good—but will we make the same mistakes and bring our grief and anger with us into this fresh chance? Or perhaps we’ve landed the new job, and now the work is profound--- and really hard. Or we’ve become pregnant, and we’re not feeling too great. The astrologer will say—hang in there, and do what needs to be done. Do your Saturn.



http://www.elizabethspring.com/Saturn_Return.html

There is the potential for three Saturn Returns in a lifetime.

Post: #2616

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB88HnlLgZ8

Post: #2617

I haven't watched the entire videos but this is the same guy who's astrotheology videos were posted previously in this thread. Compliments of Absurdious:
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Your-Bod...-Holy-Land

Post: #2618

Earth Child  Wrote:

I haven't watched the entire videos but this is the same guy who's astrotheology videos were posted previously in this thread. Compliments of Absurdious:
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Your-Bod...-Holy-Land

yeah he talks of a 'seed' been released in our bodies but cant remember if he said when there is a moon sun conjunction or opposite

interview here http://www.blogtalkradio.com/illuminated...ci-returns

Post: #2619

Anonymous Carrot  Wrote:

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Anonymous Carrot the "Fortune Teller".

Post: #2620

MorningMist  Wrote:

The Saturn Return



“Know Thyself”


“Nothing in Excess”


(Two quotes inscribed above the temple at Delphi, Greece)

It has often been said that under strong Saturn transits one can choose between exhaustion and depression---some choice! It implies that because Saturn is often about doing real work in the mundane world that exhaustion is the better choice--- hinting that "it's better to wear out than to rust out"as Mark Twain once said. So folks who understand “just a little” astrology sometimes view the coming of a Saturn Return with raised eyebrows and deep sighs. But then a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.



Saturn brings to mind the two ancient Greek maxims, inscribed at the Temple at Delphi: “Know Thyself" and “Nothing in Excess.” One might think that by understanding and trying to live by these wise sayings one could avoid the great troubles in life. Perhaps they help; but still we seem to suffer. Our understanding of these words change as we age, but life often plays some nasty tricks on us in the meantime. Perhaps this is why we have Saturn transits—it’s a chance to get it right this time.


Saturn is the archetypal symbol for a way of being, or a process that slows us down and makes us take a cold hard look at reality. It can feel like the voice of the inner critic and in ancient times it was seen as “the old malefic” when its passage in the chart was viewed with some suspicion. It has roots in the idea of melancholy, timely delay, and redefining our lives from the very foundation. Despite any fatigue or depression, we are pressured to act at these Saturnian times, and ideally the action we must take will follow the insight and maturity that has been developing over time. For astrologers, it is a topic we are endlessly exploring with our clients.


However Saturn also represents the arrival of the harvest and our reward for hard work and effort. It brings a good harvest if we’re willing to wait. Its passage in a chart---especially at the time of the Saturn Returns-- marks a time when we have an opportunity for deep change and life-changing rewards. Not so bad!


There are two Saturn Returns that happen to everybody—the first is between the ages of twenty-eight and thirty, and the second, between the ages of fifty-eight and sixty. It’s necessary to consult the ephemeris or your astrologer to find the exact date for you, but the feeling of the Saturn Return saturates this whole time period. Astrologically speaking, the first Return is when we truly come into our adulthood, and the second is when we come into the wisdom of the Elder.

It’s true that our culture sees the age of twenty-one as the time of becoming an adult—but not for astrologers. For us it’s twenty-eight. And you may get your Social Security at sixty-five, but it’s at the second Saturn Return at around fifty-eight that your true personal and social security comes up for review. Saturn Returns can be times of rough passages-- or harvest--and they’re usually a bit of both.


The good news is that although Saturn’s transits in our lives may mark times of plain hard work and great self-questioning, it’s also a time when opportunities present themselves and the rewards can be great. Procrastination doesn't look like a good option any more. Perhaps our old lover is finally gone—and there’s someone on the horizon that looks really good—but will we make the same mistakes and bring our grief and anger with us into this fresh chance? Or perhaps we’ve landed the new job, and now the work is profound--- and really hard. Or we’ve become pregnant, and we’re not feeling too great. The astrologer will say—hang in there, and do what needs to be done. Do your Saturn.



http://www.elizabethspring.com/Saturn_Return.html

There is the potential for three Saturn Returns in a lifetime.

Many astrologers do not recommend getting married until a person is at least 30 years old and has had their first Saturn Return since that is when a person truly reaches adulthood and begins to understand and know who they are.

Post: #2621

Grace  Wrote:

MorningMist  Wrote:

The Saturn Return



“Know Thyself”


“Nothing in Excess”


(Two quotes inscribed above the temple at Delphi, Greece)

It has often been said that under strong Saturn transits one can choose between exhaustion and depression---some choice! It implies that because Saturn is often about doing real work in the mundane world that exhaustion is the better choice--- hinting that "it's better to wear out than to rust out"as Mark Twain once said. So folks who understand “just a little” astrology sometimes view the coming of a Saturn Return with raised eyebrows and deep sighs. But then a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.



Saturn brings to mind the two ancient Greek maxims, inscribed at the Temple at Delphi: “Know Thyself" and “Nothing in Excess.” One might think that by understanding and trying to live by these wise sayings one could avoid the great troubles in life. Perhaps they help; but still we seem to suffer. Our understanding of these words change as we age, but life often plays some nasty tricks on us in the meantime. Perhaps this is why we have Saturn transits—it’s a chance to get it right this time.


Saturn is the archetypal symbol for a way of being, or a process that slows us down and makes us take a cold hard look at reality. It can feel like the voice of the inner critic and in ancient times it was seen as “the old malefic” when its passage in the chart was viewed with some suspicion. It has roots in the idea of melancholy, timely delay, and redefining our lives from the very foundation. Despite any fatigue or depression, we are pressured to act at these Saturnian times, and ideally the action we must take will follow the insight and maturity that has been developing over time. For astrologers, it is a topic we are endlessly exploring with our clients.


However Saturn also represents the arrival of the harvest and our reward for hard work and effort. It brings a good harvest if we’re willing to wait. Its passage in a chart---especially at the time of the Saturn Returns-- marks a time when we have an opportunity for deep change and life-changing rewards. Not so bad!


There are two Saturn Returns that happen to everybody—the first is between the ages of twenty-eight and thirty, and the second, between the ages of fifty-eight and sixty. It’s necessary to consult the ephemeris or your astrologer to find the exact date for you, but the feeling of the Saturn Return saturates this whole time period. Astrologically speaking, the first Return is when we truly come into our adulthood, and the second is when we come into the wisdom of the Elder.

It’s true that our culture sees the age of twenty-one as the time of becoming an adult—but not for astrologers. For us it’s twenty-eight. And you may get your Social Security at sixty-five, but it’s at the second Saturn Return at around fifty-eight that your true personal and social security comes up for review. Saturn Returns can be times of rough passages-- or harvest--and they’re usually a bit of both.


The good news is that although Saturn’s transits in our lives may mark times of plain hard work and great self-questioning, it’s also a time when opportunities present themselves and the rewards can be great. Procrastination doesn't look like a good option any more. Perhaps our old lover is finally gone—and there’s someone on the horizon that looks really good—but will we make the same mistakes and bring our grief and anger with us into this fresh chance? Or perhaps we’ve landed the new job, and now the work is profound--- and really hard. Or we’ve become pregnant, and we’re not feeling too great. The astrologer will say—hang in there, and do what needs to be done. Do your Saturn.



http://www.elizabethspring.com/Saturn_Return.html

There is the potential for three Saturn Returns in a lifetime.

Many astrologers do not recommend getting married until a person is at least 30 years old and has had their first Saturn Return since that is when a person truly reaches adulthood and begins to understand and know who they are.

Sounds like good advice to me but what do they do with all the children born before they are 30?



I made it through my last Saturn return totally unaware of it but this weekend sure felt like it had hit like a baseball bat. LOL

Post: #2622

mmm feeling out of it ! venus retrograde not sure the eclips was right on my merucry as well so not sure plus neptune sq as well i'm dazed and confused.

http://leofish.com/solar-eclipse-in-gemi...n-the-sky/

Quote:This Solar Eclipse will be visible in the Western USA while it forms a square to Neptune, having to make the trans-Pacific journey to China and Japan. Either way, it’ll have some powerful impacts and effects, particularly traversing the Ring of Fire and forming a ring of fire as it does, it could mean earthquakes and/or volcanoes, especially approaching the Summer Solstice which will become open season for change and weather crisis when we’ll experience the first of seven squares from Uranus to Pluto and Jupiter will square Neptune close to the first day of summer. If you were born at the beginning or middle of either Gemini or Sagittarius, you will be impacted by this eclipse period. You may be torn in a multitude of directions about which way to turn next until you realize the answer is usually found in the question. No matter where you go, there you are, as every step leads you to where you need to go. Gemini has to do with communication and transportation, so running errands and talking on the phone are part of the normal routine, thus one must imagine more extreme scenarios.

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LoP Guest  Wrote:

mmm feeling out of it ! venus retrograde not sure the eclips was right on my merucry as well so not sure plus neptune sq as well i'm dazed and confused.

http://leofish.com/solar-eclipse-in-gemi...n-the-sky/

Quote:This Solar Eclipse will be visible in the Western USA while it forms a square to Neptune, having to make the trans-Pacific journey to China and Japan. Either way, it’ll have some powerful impacts and effects, particularly traversing the Ring of Fire and forming a ring of fire as it does, it could mean earthquakes and/or volcanoes, especially approaching the Summer Solstice which will become open season for change and weather crisis when we’ll experience the first of seven squares from Uranus to Pluto and Jupiter will square Neptune close to the first day of summer. If you were born at the beginning or middle of either Gemini or Sagittarius, you will be impacted by this eclipse period. You may be torn in a multitude of directions about which way to turn next until you realize the answer is usually found in the question. No matter where you go, there you are, as every step leads you to where you need to go. Gemini has to do with communication and transportation, so running errands and talking on the phone are part of the normal routine, thus one must imagine more extreme scenarios.

That was most likely the cause of all the weekend turmoil. I think it's easing off a little for now but those seven squares are gonna hit us hard again and again.

Post: #2624

MorningMist  Wrote:

Grace  Wrote:

MorningMist  Wrote:

The Saturn Return



“Know Thyself”


“Nothing in Excess”


http://www.elizabethspring.com/Saturn_Return.html

There is the potential for three Saturn Returns in a lifetime.

Many astrologers do not recommend getting married until a person is at least 30 years old and has had their first Saturn Return since that is when a person truly reaches adulthood and begins to understand and know who they are.

Sounds like good advice to me but what do they do with all the children born before they are 30?



I made it through my last Saturn return totally unaware of it but this weekend sure felt like it had hit like a baseball bat. LOL

I think the recommendation to wait until one is 30 is for improved chances of making a compatible mate selection due to 'coming into your own' and understanding yourself better at 30 than say 20. But, hey, sometimes people never make a very appropriate decision for mate selection at any age. Sometimes people get it right at a young age, too. I'm not looking forward to my 2nd Saturn Return, but I've got some years to go before that happens.

Post: #2625

Grace  Wrote:

MorningMist  Wrote:

Grace  Wrote:

Many astrologers do not recommend getting married until a person is at least 30 years old and has had their first Saturn Return since that is when a person truly reaches adulthood and begins to understand and know who they are.

Sounds like good advice to me but what do they do with all the children born before they are 30?



I made it through my last Saturn return totally unaware of it but this weekend sure felt like it had hit like a baseball bat. LOL

I think the recommendation to wait until one is 30 is for improved chances of making a compatible mate selection due to 'coming into your own' and understanding yourself better at 30 than say 20. But, hey, sometimes people never make a very appropriate decision for mate selection at any age. Sometimes people get it right at a young age, too. I'm not looking forward to my 2nd Saturn Return, but I've got some years to go before that happens.

I didn't have my children until I was 28-30 years old and I feel like I was too old to have the kind of fun times I wanted to have with them as they got older.

I think our life styles encourage children to not mature and take on responsibility as soon as children did in other generations. It's a completely different way of raising children going on now.