Quote:The Scythians worshipped a sword fixed in the earth as an image of the god of war, and bedewed it with sacrifices of human gore. They drank the blood of the first enemy killed in battle, scalped their prisoners, and used their skulls as drinkingcups, They gave their kings terrible burialrites, and celebrated the anniversaries of their death by strangling their horses and slaves, and leaving the impaled corpses to surround the royal kourgan with a circle of horsemen. They honored the memory of the wise Anacharsis, who travelled among the Greeks. Their nomad hordes defied the power of Darius Hystaspes.

Quote:Milesians :- If the coming of the Tuatha de Danann represents the coming of the Bronze Age to Ireland then the arrival of the Milesians embodies the Iron Age. The story of their wanderings before reaching Ireland is an elaborate one. It is generally assumed that they -- or at least their culture -- were Celtic in origin. Their point of origin, for what it is worth, is Scythia in SE Europe. Part of their mythology is made to associate them with Egypt at the time of the Exodus, but this chronology would upset Celtic/Iron Age connections. Again we could be looking at an extraneous Biblical connection. They could of course have been "proto-Celts" -- that period in Egypt and the Mediterranean is chaotic with the eruption of Thera, the Trojan War, and the Sea Peoples -- so confirmatory evidence is hard to find. Perhaps two similar cultures 1000 years apart did find their way to Ireland post -- Tuatha de Danann? In any case the Celtic/Iron Age dating is feasible, since Celtic (and possibly Scythian) units of mercenaries did serve in the Egyptian army and the Celts are on record for striking for better pay.

Now, the Scythians worshipped a sword thrust in the earth. Hmmm....what does that sound like? Excalibur.

Quote:The Scythians worshipped a sword fixed in the earth as an image of the god of war, and bedewed it with sacrifices of human gore. They drank the blood of the first enemy killed in battle, scalped their prisoners, and used their skulls as drinkingcups, They gave their kings terrible burialrites, and celebrated the anniversaries of their death by strangling their horses and slaves, and leaving the impaled corpses to surround the royal kourgan with a circle of horsemen. They honored the memory of the wise Anacharsis, who travelled among the Greeks. Their nomad hordes defied the power of Darius Hystaspes.

http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/GrScyth.html

Quote:The story of Niall's mother is the 'original' story of the "loathly lady" motif. Variations of this story are told of the earlier Irish high king Lugaid Loígde, in Arthurian legend — one of the most famous versions appears in both Geoffrey Chaucer's The Wife of Bath's Tale and the related Gawain romance, The Wedding of Sir Gawain and Dame Ragnell — and in John Gower's Middle English poem Confessio Amantis.

Quote:A legendary account of Niall's birth and early life is given in the 11th century saga Echtra mac nEchach Muimedóin ("The adventure of the sons of Eochaid Mugmedón"). In it, Eochaid Mugmedón, the High King of Ireland, has five sons, four, Brión, Ailill, Fiachrae and Fergus, by his first wife Mongfind, sister of the king of Munster, Crimthann mac Fidaig, and a fifth, Niall, by his second wife Cairenn Chasdub, daughter of Sachell Balb, king of the Saxons. While Cairenn is pregnant with Niall, the jealous Mongfind forces her to do heavy work, hoping to make her miscarry. She gives birth as she is drawing water, but out of fear of Mongfind, she leaves the child on the ground, exposed to the birds. The baby is rescued and brought up by a poet called Torna. When Niall grows up he returns to Tara and rescues his mother from her labour.[5]

Although it is anachronistic for Niall's mother to have been a Saxon, O'Rahilly argues that the name Cairenn is derived from the Latin name Carina, and that it is plausible that she might have been a Romano-Briton.[6] Indeed, Keating describes her not as a Saxon but as the "daughter of the king of Britain".[3] Mongfind appears to have been a supernatural personage: the saga "The Death of Crimthann mac Fidaig" says the festival of Samhain was commonly called the "Festival of Mongfind", and prayers were offered to her on Samhain eve

Quote:Clan Donnachaidh claims descent from Duncan I, High King of Scots of the House of Atholl (Dunkeld). He was the first of the line of the “House of Dunkeld” who were generally considered strong and competent monarchs. During this era Scotland not only maintained her status as an independent state, but grew to be one of the better governed nations of Western Europe. The first King of the House of Atholl was Duncan I, who reigned from 1034 to 1040.

Duncan I was the first High King of Scots descended from the Kin of St. Columba and in turn a forefather of Clan Donnachaidh. His ascent to the throne was extremely controversial and changed the succession thereafter.

WooWoo Suntard  Wrote:

I'm just posting something in this fabulous thread so I can find it when I get home from work tonight and can follow all the links and watch the vids and see what else has been added.

Best thread I've read in a long time.

I hope I can be so bold as to say "Thank you!"

Serendipity  Wrote:

WooWoo Suntard  Wrote:

I'm just posting something in this fabulous thread so I can find it when I get home from work tonight and can follow all the links and watch the vids and see what else has been added.

Best thread I've read in a long time.

I hope I can be so bold as to say "Thank you!"

Yes, you can be so bold. Fantastic information. Wow.

Please forgive me for taking over you thread Smilin' Eyes. I'll add some more a bit later. Haven't finished my first cuppa yet.....

Serendipity  Wrote:

Please forgive me for taking over you thread Smilin' Eyes. I'll add some more a bit later. Haven't finished my first cuppa yet.....

No need for forgiveness. Your information is fantastic. I've followed your links. Now my thoughts are why isn't this information more well known in popular history? Why isn't this also taught in Western Civ classes?

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/145371.html

Aryan settlements found in Siberia


Arkaim, Russia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkaim

Quote:The site is generally dated to the 17th century BC. Earlier dates, up to the 20th century BC, have been proposed

Quote:The similarity of latitude, date, and size led some archaeoastronomists (Bystrushkin 2003) to compare Arkaim with Stonehenge in England. According to their claims, the Neolithic observatory at Stonehenge allowed for observation of 15 astronomical phenomena using 22 elements, whereas the contemporaneous observatory at Arkaim allowed for observation of 18 astronomical phenomena using 30 elements. The precision of measurements in Stonehenge is estimated at 10 arc-minutes to a degree, that in Arkaim being put at 1 arc-minute. Such a precision of astronomical observations was not repeated until the compilation of Almagest about 2 millennia later. The interpretation as an observatory for either Stonehenge or Arkaim is not universally accepted

Quote:The houses of the ancient Arkaims were also quite technologically advanced with similarities to our modern day conveniences such as ovens, water supplies, a very sophisticated climate control system utilizing underground trenches, and bronze smelting ovens indicating a sophisticated grasp of metallurgical processes. Not bad for an ancient Neolithic society

Serendipity  Wrote:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/145371.html

Aryan settlements found in Siberia


Arkaim, Russia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkaim

I want to expand on this a bit, and point out some things.

From the wiki article:

Quote:The site is generally dated to the 17th century BC. Earlier dates, up to the 20th century BC, have been proposed

Quote:The similarity of latitude, date, and size led some archaeoastronomists (Bystrushkin 2003) to compare Arkaim with Stonehenge in England. According to their claims, the Neolithic observatory at Stonehenge allowed for observation of 15 astronomical phenomena using 22 elements, whereas the contemporaneous observatory at Arkaim allowed for observation of 18 astronomical phenomena using 30 elements. The precision of measurements in Stonehenge is estimated at 10 arc-minutes to a degree, that in Arkaim being put at 1 arc-minute. Such a precision of astronomical observations was not repeated until the compilation of Almagest about 2 millennia later. The interpretation as an observatory for either Stonehenge or Arkaim is not universally accepted

http://satellitediscoveries.typepad.com/...rcula.html

Quote:The houses of the ancient Arkaims were also quite technologically advanced with similarities to our modern day conveniences such as ovens, water supplies, a very sophisticated climate control system utilizing underground trenches, and bronze smelting ovens indicating a sophisticated grasp of metallurgical processes. Not bad for an ancient Neolithic society

A series of videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7noXqRsi...19931D64A1



Arayan?

Hyperborean?


Scythian???????

Quote:According to Strabo, the original name of the Dacians was daoi. A tradition preserved by Hesychius informs us that daos was the Phrygian word for "wolf.' P. Kretschmer had explained daos by the root *dhäu, "to press, to squeeze, to strangle."' Among the words derived from this root we may note the Lydian Kandaules, the name of the Thracian war god, Kandaon, the Illyrian dhaunos (wolf), the god Daunus, and so on. The city of Daous-dava, in Lower Moesia, between the Danube and Mount Haemus, literally meant "village of wolves. Formerly, then, the Dacians called themselves "wolves" or "those who are like wolves," who resemble wolves. Still according to Strabo, certain nomadic Scythians to the east of the Caspian Sea were also called daoi. The Latin authors called them Daliae, and some Greek historians daai. In all probability their ethnic name was derived from Iranian (Saka) dahae, "wolf." But similar names were not unusual among the IndoEuropeans. South of the Caspian Sea lay Hyrcania, that is, in Eastern Iranian "Vehrkana," in Western Iranian "Varkana," literally the "country of wolves" (from the Iranian root vehrka, "wolf'). The nomadic tribes that inhabited it were called Hyrkanoi, "the wolves," by Greco-Latin authors. In Phrygia there was the tribe of the Orka (Orkoi). We may further cite the Lycaones of Arcadia, and Lycaonia or Lucaonia in Asia Minor, and especially the Arcadian Zeus Lykaios" and Apollo Lykagenes; the latter surname has been explained as "he of the she-wolf," "he born of the she-wolf," that is, born of Leto in the shape of a she-wolf. According to Heraclides Ponticus (Fragm. Hist. Gr. 218), the name of the Samnite tribe of the Lucani came from Lykos, "wolf." Their neighbors, the Hirpini, took their name from hirpus, the Samnite word for "wolf." At the foot of Mount Soracte lived the Hirpi Sorani, the "wolves of Sora" (the Volscian city). According to the tradition transmitted by Servius, an oracle had advised the Hirpi Sorani to live "like wolves," that is, by rapine. And in fact they were exempt from taxes and from military service, for their biennial rite-which consisted in walking barefoot over burning coals-was believed to ensure the fertility of the country. Both this shamanic rite and their living "like wolves" reflect religious concepts of considerable antiquity