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Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 98358 08-27-2012 09:47 AM
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RE: Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification
LoP Guest Wrote:Hey BloodRed ... if I want to hear someone ramble on in a disjointed fashion I'll just go pretend to listen to my wide for a while. At least I score a few points that way. 
wide should say "wife" ... she's not wide, although i wouldn't mind if she was. i won't allow the media to brainwash me into thinking a girl with the body of a 9-year-old boy is the height of female beauty.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 117114 08-28-2012 05:39 AM
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RE: Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification
In typical LOP fashion, this thread was supposed to be about the brilliance of the quote in the first post. Yet not a single person even addressed it. I presume that's because most LOPers wouldn't know brilliance if it slapped them upside the head. Too busy promoting their juvenile agendas.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 114809 08-28-2012 05:44 AM
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RE: Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification
You externalize problems. So bigots are not bigots, but somehow they are managed to be bigots and aggressive.
If you wanna externalize, why not just contribute bigotry and aggression to low living standards, maybe because a factory closed. A lot of stress for basic needs, jealousy.
If that is on purpose, you know of a way everybody could live rich and productive?
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 98358 08-28-2012 06:42 AM
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RE: Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification
LoP Guest Wrote:You externalize problems. So bigots are not bigots, but somehow they are managed to be bigots and aggressive.
If you wanna externalize, why not just contribute bigotry and aggression to low living standards, maybe because a factory closed. A lot of stress for basic needs, jealousy.
If that is on purpose, you know of a way everybody could live rich and productive?
I'm having trouble following that. But in any event, what do you describe as "low living standards"? What we call the "poverty line" most people in the world would call living like a king.
Furthermore, it is the rare human being who decides what to think for himself. People are sheep and they want to be told what to do and what to believe. They are bigoted because they are told to be bigoted. It serves an agenda, as explained in the original post.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 98358 08-28-2012 06:44 AM
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RE: Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification
LoP Guest Wrote:You externalize problems. So bigots are not bigots, but somehow they are managed to be bigots and aggressive.
If you wanna externalize, why not just contribute bigotry and aggression to low living standards, maybe because a factory closed. A lot of stress for basic needs, jealousy.
If that is on purpose, you know of a way everybody could live rich and productive?
What you are saying sounds a bit like the old argument that people commit crimes because they are poor, which is utterly ridiculous. Some groups of poor people commit crimes while others do not. It's not about poverty. It's about culture.
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axslinger Registered User User ID: 117124 08-28-2012 07:02 AM
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RE: Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification
LoP Guest Wrote:BloodRed Wrote:[color=#FF0000]~ Orrrrrrrr is it TRULY racist people that like to call people racists...?? You know, call someone else a bigot, because, in actuality, you're the REAL bigot??
WTF are you babbling about? If I call a child molester evil is it actually because I am evil? What kind of mentally retarded logic are you employing?
No, but if point out that Detroit is a disaster area and has been run by blacks for decades, I'm called a bigot even though the evidence is glaring. Speaking the truth isn't bigotry; it's the truth. Anytime something is said negative against someone of color, they are automatically branded a bigot. In your case, there is clear cut evidence that somebody is a "child molester" but in the case of throwing around the word "bigot", it's a projection that isn't necessarily true.
To my way of thinking, Affirmative Action is bigotry. It is making the assumption that blacks are too stupid to do it on their own, yet nobody seems to recognize that.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 115486 08-28-2012 08:21 AM
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RE: Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification
This peasant psychology is basically "dried up" psychology, which lends a "reptilian" quality to civilized people, where vitality becomes a worshipped quality possessed as a covetted commodity by the capital class only (no more beautiful peasants). This goes way back to our hostile, ancient past. Colonial mass psychology amongst common people is especially bigoted, America for example being very persistently set up this way to this day, with British-sponsored racial rule. One can detect in past history, fate stepping in and reducing native populations via disease, forcing them to be too few for this process (which involves slavery), so slaves are kidnapped and imported, and when an element of the dominant group decides to support natural fate, and establish a more real, initial-phase freedom, the other group is put in charge, and the freedom is derailed all together, like an animal refusing to die easy, but die it will. Imperial rule over colonies is a cruel, unlively process ("money" flows elsewhere). The peasant is intellectually stultified, and violent; his emperor, if loyal to his aristocracy, is the larger peasant ideal worshipped by peasants as a god, who is a games patron same as the mob in Rome (Caligula's outrages could not derail mob-worship of him, and his aristocracy absorbed the force of his revolt and murdered him in both life and historical account). It takes intelligence and strength to just swallow the negativity of the whole situation, and be both realistic and loving as the primary effort of freedom building. Someone has to be honestly smart and "moist regardless," with life force to be lived freely and without bigotry, even with bigots projecting stereotype on you. You have to be strong first, and let others discover their own bigotry themselves, because Death is coming for us anyway, but to die nice makes you truly nice.
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BloodRed ~ LOVE, BE LOVED, OR BE LEFT BEHIND. ~ User ID: 18489 08-28-2012 08:29 AM
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RE: Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification
LoP Guest Wrote:Okay, first of all, you're a female, right? Because no dude would ramble on in such a disjointed fashion for so long.
Furthermore, why would I engage in discussion with you when you have completely ignored the substance of my posts (the non-insulting ones)?
Start by actually responding to some of the things I have said.
I'm not holding my breath here. The idea you put forward that I must be a bigot to point out the bigotry of others is nonsensical.
Last point, I stand by everything I've ever posted on this forum. I believe in love for all god's creatures, except for the haters. For them I believe in the union of my foot and their ass.
I may have misjudged you earlier in this thread, but it was because you jumped in as an adversary. If you followed the other threads from the beginning shouldn't you have been on my side? Or was it that I was too strident (too mean?) in my denunciations of their bigotry? Are you a liberal who thinks that only compassion will help the haters see the error of their ways?
~ LOL... OP, are you here/online atm?
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BloodRed ~ LOVE, BE LOVED, OR BE LEFT BEHIND. ~ User ID: 18489 08-28-2012 11:49 AM
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RE: Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification
BloodRed Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Okay, first of all, you're a female, right? Because no dude would ramble on in such a disjointed fashion for so long.
Furthermore, why would I engage in discussion with you when you have completely ignored the substance of my posts (the non-insulting ones)?
Start by actually responding to some of the things I have said.
I'm not holding my breath here. The idea you put forward that I must be a bigot to point out the bigotry of others is nonsensical.
Last point, I stand by everything I've ever posted on this forum. I believe in love for all god's creatures, except for the haters. For them I believe in the union of my foot and their ass.
I may have misjudged you earlier in this thread, but it was because you jumped in as an adversary. If you followed the other threads from the beginning shouldn't you have been on my side? Or was it that I was too strident (too mean?) in my denunciations of their bigotry? Are you a liberal who thinks that only compassion will help the haters see the error of their ways?
~ LOL... OP, are you here/online atm?

~ Okay, from what I can gather, either your online time window is short, or, you may be responding to other threads.
~ I DO thank you for your eventual reply, though, and commend your making yourself accessible to myself and others to discuss what you've put forth, whether I or others disagree with it or not.
~ So, with that in mind, that most likely you -will- again check in on your thread here, I will see to it that you don't turn blue in the face, from waiting for me (I've been a wee busy, myself, as well) by answering a few questions of yours, in the hopes that you will also answer a few of mine, at your leisure/convenience.
~ Fair?
~ Yes, I am a woman. I accept that that fact has already 'colored' your prejudices against me, as witnessed by your own words above. Nonetheless, I am NOT so easily dismissed as disjointed OR rambling, _IF_ my words are given the same attention as I give to yours or others. Failure to follow along, of course, would make my points seem to be coming from someone who is less mentally acute than yourself, or, in your words, mentally retarded. On that point, I can assure you, I am not defective in my thought processes, though how they differ from another's thought processes, of course, and if they see their minds as keener than my own (and we ALL think that we are THE smartest cookie, don't we? HUMAN NATURE), YES, in their eyes, according to their opinions/beliefs/belief systems/world view, then of COURSE I am mentally incompetent if they believe themselves to be mentally competent.
~ As to your statement that I am ignoring 'the substance' of your posts, I would posit that in FACT, I am taking your posting history into account, and matching it up to what you said in that thread that was locked/closed, and your words on other threads BEFORE that, as well as AFTER that, here, on THIS thread... the CUMULATIVE 'substance' of your speech, is EXACTLY what I addressed before that thread disappeared, and when you immediately made this thread after that thread closure, I felt that we were not finished addressing the points you made.
~ Do YOU remember all that you said, on that thread??
~ MUCH of the 'substance' of it, I CLEARLY remember, as do more than just a few others.
~ You wish me to address your 'good' words, and ignore your insults/derision...? THINK about that, for a moment... if you need to, scroll back, and read your own bigoted perspectives. This should help you to see the points that I and others made:
*BIGOT: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a (differing) group with hatred and intolerance.
*... Intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.
~ Though I cannot point others (who did not witness it) to the locked/closed thread, SOME here would agree, that that is EXACTLY what you were espousing. There are past examples of your 'bias' as well that completed the picture not only for myself or for Xenoverse or many others, but also for the mods.
~ You DO realize, that accusing people here on LOP who have a LEGITIMATE/VALID point of contention/disagreement/disapproval against the behavior(s) of the nation-state of Israel, of 'hating jews' (i.e., being 'JEW-HATERS'), IS _EXACTLY_ THE MODUS OPERANDI OF STATE-SANCTIONED BIGOTRY ENACTED BY OPERATIVES AT THE BEHEST OF SAID NATION-STATE IN ORDER TO 'HATE-SPEAK' DISSENTING VIEWS AS TO SAID NATION-STATE'S POLICIES INTO SILENCE, don't you??
~ It is seen here MANY times a day. YES, there ARE many people who hate the jews, and who WILL make statements (not anti-semitic, by the way, semantically-speaking, if we wish to be linguistically-accurate) of all types but many of a negative demeanor certainly, that hate them on a very personal level. BUT, AS WELL, THERE ARE THOSE WHO 'TROLL', BY MEANS OF MAKING A STATEMENT OF HATRED _AGAINST_THEMSELVES_ AND WHATEVER 'GROUP' THEY IDENTIFY WITH, PURELY TO _FAN_ THE FLAMES OF BIGOTRY/HATRED EVEN HIGHER.
~ If you don't know that such a 'tactic' exists, then I would merely encourage you to keep your eyes peeled, it happens often, and it is not exclusive to 'the jews'.
~ Xenoverse and others were correct in their assessment that you _WERE_ 'baiting'.
~ You may disagree. That is understandable. But I will move forward, with the statement, again, that I personally DO believe as well that that is EXACTLY what you were doing with that thread. THIS thread, you've stuck more to the 'class' -ism, rather than the 'race' -ism, which, if one has been a student of Human History, one realizes stems from the same xenophobic reactionary responses.
~ I _AM_ responding to 'the substance' of 'what you said', BY ADDRESSING YOUR INSULTS, both on that thread, and here.
~ Case in point: I am a 'mental retard' in your view, whose thought processes are 'mentally retarded', according to just one of your many insults, and with another 'demonization', just tonight, I am a woman/female SIMPLY BY HOW YOU VIEW WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS 'DISJOINTED' and 'RAMBLING' (inversely implying that YOUR thought processes are superior, because YOU believe your thoughts to be 'concise' and 'focused'). That could be considered sexism, thereby, as well, if one is going by the letter of the law. Either way, in SOME part of your mind, I am beneath your station. Thus, automatically, in your perspective, EVERYTHING/ANYTHING that you have to say is 'more valid' than EVERYTHING/ANYTHING that -I- have to say...
~ Meaning: WOULD MY WORDS HOLD MORE SWAY WITH YOU IF I WAS/AM MORE SIMILAR TO YOU THAN IF I WAS/AM DIFFERENT FROM YOU...?? Of course. But, THERE YOU HAVE IT: Bias; bigotry; prejudice. Correct?
~ So, you see, your statement: 'The idea you put forward that I must be a bigot to point out the bigotry of others is nonsensical.' is in fact TRUE, _IF_ SUCH A TACTIC WAS NOT IN WIDESPREAD USE IN THE WORLD TODAY, AND NOT _JUST_ BY ZIONISTS.
~ Would you like to see a CRYSTAL-CLEAR, OPEN.N.SHUT CASE OF SUCH A TACTIC EMPLOYED AND SUBSEQUENTLY EXPOSED FOR WHAT IT IS AND SOUNDLY COUNTERED/DEFEATED?? Here:
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Obama-Ho...of-Freedom
~ I have made threads about MANY war criminals who committed atrocities and crimes against Humanity. When my threads have been about Bush being a war criminal, or Obama being a war criminal, or MANY OTHERS BEING WAR CRIMINALS, the threat of those FACTS being called 'hate speech', and worthy of complete censorship, as WELL AS the _THREAT_ against my FREEDOM OF SPEECH in pointing out such criminals' actions being silenced by my 'banning' for DARING to name EVIL _AS_ EVIL, =ONLY= BECAME _SERIOUS_ 'OFFENSES' WHEN THE SUBJECT WAS A ZIONIST, should make it clear to you (in regards to your past posting history), that I find such arbitrary exclusionism (from THE LAW) to be COMPLETELY _UNACCEPTABLE_...
~ Again: WHAT was your locked/closed thread about, again, Guest...? Your answer here: ___________________________ .
~ Your statement of Love for _ALL_ of 'God's creatures', in my view (and based on many of your past posts), I feel is untrue, and borders on the deceitful.
~ Do Palestinians have as much a right to exist as Jews, Guest...? Your answer here: ____________________________ .
~ ALSO: You 'Love' everyone, except for the 'haters'... if you think about your statement a little more, wouldn't that be yet -another- example of 'bigotry', by definition? Meaning: those who hate are less deserving of your Love, correct? Your answer here: ________________________________ .
~ As to your next statement: TRUE.
~ I _AM_ THE ENEMY. I _AM_ THE ADVERSARY. <3
            
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~ Just as YOU are (to those lesser, base traits in yourself as well as within others that can metastasize into TRUE EVIL), when YOU BECOME SELF-INCLUSIONARY while dealing WITH 'THE HUMAN CONDITION'. Do you see what I mean? YOU are THE _FIRST_ 'BIGOT' THAT MUST BE DEFEATED, BY YOURSELF. JUST AS _I_ AM THE _FIRST_ 'BIGOT' THAT MUST BE DEFEATED, BY MYSELF. Before _ANY_ of us can 'rise above' such deplorable behaviors... But, as per your 'strident denunciation', if you refuse to see that YOU, AS WELL, are the EXACT THING which you are disapproving of, therein is the crux of the dilemma, isn't it? (AND <-THAT APPLIES TO US ALL...).
~ Yet, IF you maintain with a pointed finger at everyone else (including 'rednecks' and 'trickled sperm' and 'mental retards' and 'females', etc., etc.,...) that it is THEY/US who are 'evil', simply because -you- have named -yourself- 'good' (according to your opinions/beliefs/belief systems/world views), you are engaging in all manner of hatred/bigotry/evil... such faulty 'self-policing'/'conflict of interest' (ego/fear based) is _EXACTLY_ HOW GENOCIDES ARE LEGALIZED/'LEGITIMIZED'.
~ You _DO_ see ^THAT^, don't you, OP??
~ Now, as to your statement: 'If you followed the other threads from the beginning shouldn't you have been on my side? Or was it that I was too strident (too mean?) in my denunciations of their bigotry?', I'll try to make my intent/intentions clear: 'your side' was already embattled with 'YOUR _OTHER_ SIDE'... I am a mortal enemy of one, where as I am a TRUE ADMIRER of THE OTHER... now replace my 'I', with YOUR 'I', put yourself in that statement (self-inclusion)... do you see my point??
~ WE RAIL AGAINST THAT IN OTHERS WHICH WE DESPISE MOST IN OURSELVES. True, or false, OP? Your answer here: ____________________________ .
~ YOU are the 'bigot' that YOU (another 'part' of your being/you) _HATE_ THE MOST. True, or false, OP? Your answer here: ____________________________ .
~ I _HOPE_ that you've taken the time to read what this 'mentally-retarded female' (lol) has 'disjointedly rambled-on' about (lol); NOT because I am trying to prove myself 'right' and you 'wrong', BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE EMBATTLED WITHIN YOUR OWN 'RIGHTS' vs. 'WRONGS', and your Higher more Noble SELF is at a point where your baser/lower self has 'fooled' YOU into believing that YOU are 'without sin', so you may cast as many stones as you wish to at us. But the problem is: YOU ARE STONING YOURSELF TO DEATH, RIGHT IN FRONT OF US ALL, AND BLAMING THE 'MURDER' ON US, YOUR FELLOW MAN.
~ Will you dismiss all that I've had to say, because of the following reasons: Too long/too much/too hard to follow. All in red. Coming from a woman. Coming from a person that you have labeled a 'mental retard'. Coming from a wall-o'-text-typing inexplicably long-winded color-challenged mentally-retarded southern woman...?? LOL.
~ OR: will you TRULY accept the input (because you ARE a Brother, as I AM your Sister), even if you don't acknowledge publicly your introspection into deeper aspects of your psyche as you INFLICTED IT upon yourself/others, _IF_ you are not purposefully obtuse/paid-to-post/arrogantly ignorant 'tool' of your lower/lesser self...?? MEANING: IF YOU ARE A _REAL_ HUMAN BEING, WILL YOUR HIGHER SELF 'allow' _YOU_ TO ACCEPT THIS 'GIFT' (some who believe ignorance is bliss would SURELY call such Honesty a 'curse', fyi) FROM MY HIGHER SELF, AS WAS GIVEN ME BY SOMEONE ELSE'S HIGHER SELF, AND SO ON, AND SO ON, and IF SO, WILL YOU PASS ON THIS 'GIFT', OR DISCARD IT, OR KEEP IT ONLY FOR YOURSELF, OR WILL YOU TAKE THE ULTIMATE CHALLENGE AND OFFER IT TO THOSE MOST LIKELY TO MOCK IT'S 'GIFT-NESS' AND THOSE MOST LIKELY TO HUMILIATE YOU FOR EVEN THINKING THAT IT IS A 'GIFT' AND ODDLY ENOUGH THOSE WHO NEED IT 'RE-GIFTED' TO THEM OUT OF LOVE BECAUSE THEY IN THEIR HATRED NEED IT MOST...??
~ In the end, the choice is yours. I have chosen to 'ramble-away' a considerable chunk of my Life, the precious little Time that we ALL feel running through the hourglass, in typing my innermost thoughts concerning the issues that you are discussing/WE are discussing to a complete and utter stranger on the internet tonight, REGARDLESS of the outcome or the perceived reactions 'good' or 'bad' by you or anyone/everyone else.
~ And as for the LAST statement of yours: 'Are you a liberal who thinks that only compassion will help the haters see the error of their ways'?
~ LOL. 'Liberal'. You may as well (and just as inaccurately, btw) attempt to label (EDIT: mis-spelled 'label', corrected today, 9/4/12) me a 'Conservative'. Or a 'democrat'. Or a 'republican'. OR _ANY_ OTHER TERM, in that instance... I'll tell you WHAT, though, OP: insert "HUMAN BEING", or, your own term, "God's 'creature'", and think on that a bit, letting it sink in, to get The TRUTH. <3
~ We've got the public record of THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF HUMAN HISTORY that _PROVES_ the _FACT_ that HATRED (instead of compassion) DOES _NOT_ HELP 'HATERS' TO SEE THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS'... changing someone's mind by blowing their brains out of their brain-pan with a bullet?? INEFFECTUAL. COUNTER-EVOLUTIONARY. EVIL. Ask a fireman: what % of fires are best put out with fire, by 'fighting fire with fire'...
~ SO, IN CLOSING, LET ME 'CORRECT' THAT STATEMENT (about me/WHO I am/WHAT I stand for) FOR YOU, IN THE HOPES THAT IT ALLOWS YOU A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT MEANS TO 'LOVE ALL GOD'S CREATURES' IN ANOTHER ONE OF AMONG BILLIONS OF 'GOD'S CREATURES' (lil' old me) LIFE:
~ "I AM A HUMAN BEING WHO THINKS THAT ONLY COMPASSION WILL HELP THE HATERS SEE THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS..." - BloodRed <3
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-PREPPING...STORM-2012
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(This post was last modified: 09-04-2012 08:31 AM by BloodRed.)
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BloodRed ~ LOVE, BE LOVED, OR BE LEFT BEHIND. ~ User ID: 18489 08-28-2012 11:54 AM
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Jackinthebox Registered User User ID: 112988 08-28-2012 12:00 PM
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RE: Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification
LoP Guest Wrote:Whoever wrote this is an inspired genius. It's like Einstein wandered into a high school physics class. Like Michael Jordan just happened to show up in a neighborhood pickup game.
The thread was closed by the time I got to back to it, so I couldn't respond there. Just when I was about to leave here for good, you throw out a gem like this to keep me around a while longer.
Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification. A peasant class must at all costs be established, and the psychology of the peasant is a civil-sociopathology, with a repressed and impulsive psychopathology. They will be bigots most of the time without being intelligent enough to realize it, and genocidal sometimes for relatively brief periods, which are repressed out of memory once a sacrifice has been made of a large scapegoat who takes full responsibility for the genocide. If you decide not to be a bigot yourself, it might just be imposed upon you as a stereotype. The peasant ensures organized criminal rule.
It's not the peasants who are bigots, but the middle class in general. Though I have to admit that some of the worst bigots in the middle class are the ones who say "I was poor, I know how hard it is. But if I can make it anyone can," and are therefore particularly venomous toward the poor and spreading their bigoted hatred like a cancer among the middle class.
For those who have never been poor, the bigotry they display is often out of ignorance, social dynamics, and then reinforced by those who claim to "know" what being poor is all about.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 98358 09-04-2012 08:28 AM
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RE: Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification
Jackinthebox Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Whoever wrote this is an inspired genius. It's like Einstein wandered into a high school physics class. Like Michael Jordan just happened to show up in a neighborhood pickup game.
The thread was closed by the time I got to back to it, so I couldn't respond there. Just when I was about to leave here for good, you throw out a gem like this to keep me around a while longer.
Bigotry is an important part of the establishment of class stratification. A peasant class must at all costs be established, and the psychology of the peasant is a civil-sociopathology, with a repressed and impulsive psychopathology. They will be bigots most of the time without being intelligent enough to realize it, and genocidal sometimes for relatively brief periods, which are repressed out of memory once a sacrifice has been made of a large scapegoat who takes full responsibility for the genocide. If you decide not to be a bigot yourself, it might just be imposed upon you as a stereotype. The peasant ensures organized criminal rule.
It's not the peasants who are bigots, but the middle class in general. Though I have to admit that some of the worst bigots in the middle class are the ones who say "I was poor, I know how hard it is. But if I can make it anyone can," and are therefore particularly venomous toward the poor and spreading their bigoted hatred like a cancer among the middle class.
For those who have never been poor, the bigotry they display is often out of ignorance, social dynamics, and then reinforced by those who claim to "know" what being poor is all about.
You make a really good point. Perhaps the middle class are the new peasants, impoverished in the sense that they lack the capacity for independent thought.
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BloodRed ~ LOVE, BE LOVED, OR BE LEFT BEHIND. ~ User ID: 18489 09-04-2012 08:34 AM
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