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**David** · **David** regulate this! User ID: 61680 12-28-2011 02:19 AM **Posts: 31,231**

Pi Wrote:

David Wrote:
Pi Wrote:
David I don't have any personal attacks for you. I just simply wanted to help in the best way I could. I'm not able to, that's my downfall. I wish you the best.

You haven't helped me in the least.

But I'm glad I was able to satisfy your curiosity.

Phishing much?

Yes. To satisfy your paranoia I am phishing you.

Settle down, chap. Drink some beers, smoke some tweed.

Tweed is very much frowned upon here (South Korea).

Tissue

As for beer, I much prefer my "Dago Red".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXt56MB-3vc

**David** · **David** regulate this! User ID: 61680 12-28-2011 02:21 AM **Posts: 31,231**

hubert Wrote:

David Wrote:
Wow, this thread has already generated like three other hate threads on the front page.

Good going, atheists.

I've really got you foaming at the mouth.

And all it takes is one verse from the New Testament.

Predictable much?

I class myself as an atheist i.e. I don't believe in man-made theisms but I think the spirit of your thread (without the dogma ) is spot on.

Poor people are blessed in that they have less illusory crap to delude them. They live on the ground, closer to the earth - they live closer to reality, closer to real emotions, closer to nature, the seasons and real time.

The rich live more comfortably and have more fun, without a doubt, but they live in metaphorical high rises; they live in their heads, in a world of logos and symbols, brand names and abstractions like the economy and money and they live in a mechanistic alarm-clock culture that is gradually morphing them into half human/half robotic cyborg slaves.

Exactly.

You don;t even have to be religious -- or a believer -- to see the spiritual truth behind these words (or psychological/sociological truth, si tu préfères).

**Devoted Follower** · (This post was last modified: 12-28-2011 02:23 AM by Devoted Follower.)

I know some poor folks that would give you the shirt off their backs...quite literally.

...and, yet others that would stab you in the face for your shoes.

Thankfully the good ones seem to vastly outnumber the bad ones...at least in my experience.

**David** · **David** regulate this! User ID: 61680 12-28-2011 02:27 AM **Posts: 31,231**

Devoted Follower Wrote:

I know some poor folks that would give you the shirt off their backs...quite literally.

...and, yet others that would stab you in the face for your shoes.

Thankfully the good ones seem to vastly outnumber the bad ones...at least in my experience.

Yeah, I didn't say all poor people were good.

Neither did Christ, I believe.

Some people seem to think their suffering gives them carte balnche to inflict pain on others or to simply not care about them or their feelings.

**hubert**

Several months ago, I was walking past a fast food outlet. A woman, probably in her 60's, with a crinkle-cut face and mash potato body sat on the step outside.

For a moment, I wondered if I should offer her some food; perhaps she was hoping to pick up some scraps people might leave behind, then, out of the fast food shop came a younger woman, obviously poor and nearly as weather worn. The younger woman was about to pass the old girl then she stopped, bent down and gave the stranger on the step her coffee and walked away. My heart nearly broke. I wanted to follow the younger woman and give her something... but she was walking toward some men so I let her pass.

It's little honest acts like this that give meaning to the phrase 'blessed are the poor'.

Pi Infinity User ID: 3.14159265 12-28-2011 02:34 AM

David Wrote:

Pi Wrote:
David Wrote:
You haven't helped me in the least.

But I'm glad I was able to satisfy your curiosity.

Phishing much?

Yes. To satisfy your paranoia I am phishing you.

Settle down, chap. Drink some beers, smoke some tweed.

Tweed is very much frowned upon here (South Korea).

As for beer, I much prefer my "Dago Red".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXt56MB-3vc

Why would you move somewhere weed is frowned upon? Seems like an unhealthy venture, personally. Anyways I wish you all the best.

Also, I wish that you find personal and true enlightenment.

**Vegas**

Being poor monotarily does not equate with being poor in spirit... Many rich people are poor in spirit while many poor people are rich in spirit...

**David** · **David** regulate this! User ID: 38383 12-28-2011 02:57 AM **Posts: 31,231**

Pi Wrote:

David Wrote:
Pi Wrote:
Yes. To satisfy your paranoia I am phishing you.

Settle down, chap. Drink some beers, smoke some tweed.

Tweed is very much frowned upon here (South Korea).

As for beer, I much prefer my "Dago Red".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXt56MB-3vc

Why would you move somewhere weed is frowned upon? Seems like an unhealthy venture, personally. Anyways I wish you all the best.

Also, I wish that you find personal and true enlightenment.

America -- lots of weed.

You can buy it on almost every street corner.

But...

2011...

No Jobs, No Cash, No Hope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go

**absurdious** · **absurdious** INFP User ID: 27152 12-28-2011 02:59 AM **Posts: 15,702**

David Wrote:

Poor People May Be Quicker to Be Kind
HealthDay – 27 mins ago...

TUESDAY, Dec. 27 (HealthDay News) -- Poor people are quicker than middle-class or rich individuals to recognize the suffering of others and to show compassion, according to a new study.

It included more than 300 young adults who were divided into groups that took part in three experiments designed to assess their levels of empathy and compassion.

The findings challenge previous research that concluded lower-class people are more likely to react with anxiety and hostility when faced with adversity, said the researchers at the University of California, Berkeley.

"These latest results indicate that there's a culture of compassion and cooperation among lower-class individuals that may be born out of threats to their well-being," study author and social psychologist Jennifer Stellar said in a university news release.

continued:

http://news.yahoo.com/poor-people-may-qu...06037.html

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Matthew 5:3

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Well shit, why don't all christians give up everything they own, live like the poor, and get closer to heaven...

**David** · **David** regulate this! User ID: 38383 12-28-2011 03:02 AM **Posts: 31,231**

absurdious Wrote:

David Wrote:
Poor People May Be Quicker to Be Kind
HealthDay – 27 mins ago...

TUESDAY, Dec. 27 (HealthDay News) -- Poor people are quicker than middle-class or rich individuals to recognize the suffering of others and to show compassion, according to a new study.

It included more than 300 young adults who were divided into groups that took part in three experiments designed to assess their levels of empathy and compassion.

The findings challenge previous research that concluded lower-class people are more likely to react with anxiety and hostility when faced with adversity, said the researchers at the University of California, Berkeley.

"These latest results indicate that there's a culture of compassion and cooperation among lower-class individuals that may be born out of threats to their well-being," study author and social psychologist Jennifer Stellar said in a university news release.

continued:

http://news.yahoo.com/poor-people-may-qu...06037.html

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Matthew 5:3

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Well shit, why don't all christians give up everything they own, live like the poor, and get closer to heaven...

Luke 18:18-30 A certain ruler asked him, "Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" 19 "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good-- except God alone. 20 You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.'" 21 "All these I have kept since I was a boy," he said. 22 When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." 23 When he heard this, he became very sad, because he was a man of great wealth. 24 Jesus looked at him and said, "How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God! 25 Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." 26 Those who heard this asked, "Who then can be saved?" 27 Jesus replied, "What is impossible with men is possible with God." 28 Peter said to him, "We have left all we had to follow you!" 29 "I tell you the truth," Jesus said to them, "no one who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God 30 will fail to receive many times as much in this age and, in the age to come, eternal life."

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 32294 12-28-2011 03:11 AM

Not to mention certain individuals who are wealthy have some skeletons in their closet in order to get that wealth. The system demands you be immoral to make it rich. There are no innocent rich no matter how good they appear on the outside. You better believe they had to knock down other people, poor and rich to make it where they are. If you want to know the character of someone look at who they surround themselves with. Some shady free masonic pagan characters is the typical circle of friends these people keep.

**The Martini Maven**

david...she wrote this at 15

Heartflowers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9rzLsv-3o0

**Johntaraz**

In the context of this verse "poor in spirit" meant":

"...This, therefore, is not the word used in the beatitude in Matthew 5:3, "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." Here, "poor" is translated from ptochos, which literally means "to crouch or cower as one helpless." It signifies the beggar, the pauper, one in abject poverty, totally dependent on others for help and destitute of even the necessities of life. In Galatians 4:9, it is translated "beggarly."

In his commentary, The Sermon on the Mount, Emmett Fox provides a practical description of what "poor in spirit" means:

To be poor in spirit means to have emptied yourself of all desire to exercise personal self-will, and, what is just as important, to have renounced all preconceived opinions in the whole-hearted search for God. It means to be willing to set aside your present habits of thought, your present views and prejudices, your present way of life if necessary; to jettison, in fact, anything and everything that can stand in the way of your finding God. (p. 22)"

Read more: http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuse...z1ho7zEtFI

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In response to the commentary I have found that the wealth that the rich have obtained has been from the exploitation of laborers. If not directly, indirectly and perhaps over years and generations.
Difficult to live in opulence and fit all that through the eye of a needle.

**mstra** lop guest User ID: 70152 12-28-2011 08:56 AM

David Wrote:

If you meet someone who has never been poor, you can almost be sure that they are 100% asshole.

How about you?

Were you ever poor?

Yes or no?

I've been broke any number of times, not knowing where my next dollar would come from. But I've never been poor. I consider "poor" to be a long term condition, perhaps permanent, and a bad attitude to take towards your life. Broke is a temporary thing.

And I'd say the Beatitudes quote is so misunderstood and mistranslated as to be meaningless.

**Timko**

well duh