Walt is holding on to the ricen . I wonder if he is going to lace one of SKylers cigarettes.
Ahh shit that's right we will definitely see that poison get used on somebody.
I understand why Walt was pissed off that Mike keeps paying the old guard with their profits but I am hoping he comes around and realizes that now he is head honcho, so the old team is now HIS team. They work for whoever pays them. Wouldn't that be a great thing to have all those guys working on your side? Well worth the money. I hope Walt and Mike can get along, Mike is indespensable and has a unique skillset that nobody else does and can make sure Walt and Jesse stay safe and one step ahead of any problems. I think that Mike is my favorite character in the show actually. What a badass! I wish I could handle myself the way he does. Handle himself, that is. Not me. lol
Ixebeche what would jacky faber do? User ID: 115447 08-19-2012 05:53 AM
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Anybody watching this series? Final season currently progressing (I think we're currently into episode 3 of an 8 episode run, culminated by 8 more episodes in the fall).
Quote:Now that we’re seeing some good old-fashioned police interviews, it occurs to me that the weak link in Walter’s chain of criminality may well be Saul Goodman. He’s repeatedly expressed his opinion that Walt and Jesse ought to knock it off and has professed his own desire to quit. What’s more, unlike the other conspirators, Saul hasn’t killed anyone. He can reasonably argue that some of his participation in the ongoing criminal enterprise was coerced, and as a lawyer he’s well-positioned to try to strike a good bargain. If I were the U.S. Attorney, I’d gladly cut a very generous deal with a man who can solve several homicides (plus the near-fatal poisoning of a little kid) and shut down a major math lab.
Meanwhile, I’m a little bit confused by the timing of Skyler White’s attack of conscience. As viewers, we’ve been shocked by the revelation at the end of Season 4 that Walt would poison an innocent boy. Skyler also seems to have taken a darker view of Walt, but she doesn’t know about the poison. She went from being a willing accomplice in drug production and money-laundering to a conscience-stricken depressive over the news that Walt killed Gus Fring? That’s hardly the greatest tragedy in human history. She’s upset about Ted, yes, but it’s hard to escape the feeling that the writers are smuggling an audience surrogate in the back door in a way that contradicts the plot...
I absolutely love this show. It is the best show on TV right now and is coming close to edging out Deadwood for my #1 show ever (can't say this for certain til it's over).
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Ixebeche what would jacky faber do? User ID: 115447 08-19-2012 06:02 AM
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I think we saw some foreshadowing of what they are going to do about dead kid, when skylar saw dirt on walt's pants and asked if they were out burying bodies. Blonde dude who shot the kid is going to be killed in the next episode, probably by mike, and left in the same hole they put the kind into. Probably the hole that is left when they remove the tanks under the railroad bridge. Dude really messed up by shooting the kid and if Mike doesn't kill him then Jesse is going to. There was no reason for that, they looked like guys working on a railroad track and could have easily told the kid that's what they were doing and for him to run along.
Hank is bound to discover the bugs that Walt left in his office. When he does, he's going to put the pieces together right quick and know that Walt put them there. That is one thing that has to happen for the story to complete itself, Hank must discover that Heisenberg is Walt. What he does afterward is still anyone's guess - Since Walt was paying for all of his medical costs, I think he will hesitate to arrest him but he might try and force him to quite the business and disclose all the other crimes he has committed in exchange for Hank's silence. I don't think Hank would want to destroy his sister in law's family after benefiting from their money and knowing that Walt really isn't a bad guy he just did what he had to do.
Well thought analysis. Do you think Walt's not a bad guy or did he die in the crawlspace and Heisenberg emerge? I think Walt wasn't a bad guy, he did what he had to do but now we see him becoming the bad guy.
Heisenberg has been emerging since the series premiere. Walt always had the evil in him. He fed it, and now it's taken over. I think he started out with good intentions, or what he told himself were good intentions, but there's no way he could not have realized from the start how destructive and horrible meth is. He chose this at every step. He may not have realized the exact consequences, but he most have known from the start where this might take him, and he wanted this.
I'm rooting for Jesse at this point. I want Walt to kill him. But at the same time I'm bothered that I'm rooting for Jesse b/c he, too, must know, on some level, the destruction he's wreaking. Jesse loves kids; that's pretty well established. So how does he rationalizing continuing to cook after the meth house in (I think it was) Season 3, with that little red-headed kid running around in the disgusting filth?
I think we may see a turning point after this last episode, with Jesse. At least I hope we will see that he comes to realize that the only way to save his soul is to get out. Of course, given that it's BB, it will probably not be that easy.
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Ixebeche what would jacky faber do? User ID: 115447 08-19-2012 06:49 AM
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I think we saw some foreshadowing of what they are going to do about dead kid, when skylar saw dirt on walt's pants and asked if they were out burying bodies. Blonde dude who shot the kid is going to be killed in the next episode, probably by mike, and left in the same hole they put the kind into. Probably the hole that is left when they remove the tanks under the railroad bridge. Dude really messed up by shooting the kid and if Mike doesn't kill him then Jesse is going to. There was no reason for that, they looked like guys working on a railroad track and could have easily told the kid that's what they were doing and for him to run along.
Hank is bound to discover the bugs that Walt left in his office. When he does, he's going to put the pieces together right quick and know that Walt put them there. That is one thing that has to happen for the story to complete itself, Hank must discover that Heisenberg is Walt. What he does afterward is still anyone's guess - Since Walt was paying for all of his medical costs, I think he will hesitate to arrest him but he might try and force him to quite the business and disclose all the other crimes he has committed in exchange for Hank's silence. I don't think Hank would want to destroy his sister in law's family after benefiting from their money and knowing that Walt really isn't a bad guy he just did what he had to do.
Well thought analysis. Do you think Walt's not a bad guy or did he die in the crawlspace and Heisenberg emerge? I think Walt wasn't a bad guy, he did what he had to do but now we see him becoming the bad guy.
Heisenberg has been emerging since the series premiere. Walt always had the evil in him. He fed it, and now it's taken over. I think he started out with good intentions, or what he told himself were good intentions, but there's no way he could not have realized from the start how destructive and horrible meth is. He chose this at every step. He may not have realized the exact consequences, but he most have known from the start where this might take him, and he wanted this.
I'm rooting for Jesse at this point. I want Walt to kill him. But at the same time I'm bothered that I'm rooting for Jesse b/c he, too, must know, on some level, the destruction he's wreaking. Jesse loves kids; that's pretty well established. So how does he rationalizing continuing to cook after the meth house in (I think it was) Season 3, with that little red-headed kid running around in the disgusting filth?
I think we may see a turning point after this last episode, with Jesse. At least I hope we will see that he comes to realize that the only way to save his soul is to get out. Of course, given that it's BB, it will probably not be that easy.
Edit: I mean I want JESSE to kill WALT. Sorry.
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Shakey1 Subscriber User ID: 112591 08-19-2012 01:51 PM
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Thanks for all the input and post that kept the thread going
I agree with the poster who said they didn't want to watch the show anymore after
the kid got shot at the end of the last episode,
but, hell...I might just watch one more episode....
I still think there's plenty of 'Walt' left in Walter White (vice the evil Heisenberg 'Mr. Hyde'), but I don't know if Walt will remain by the finale.
I thought the show really portrayed meth addiction well in a variety of scenes (like Wendy the hooker, some of the meth dealers and the death of street dealers). I don't see how there could be any winners with a methamphetamine drug trade, and I predict the show will continue to echo that sentiment (regardless of how the final season wraps up).
(This post was last modified: 08-19-2012 01:58 PM by Shakey1.)
FaFaFooey Registered User User ID: 55126 08-19-2012 08:15 PM
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Thanks for all the input and post that kept the thread going
I agree with the poster who said they didn't want to watch the show anymore after
the kid got shot at the end of the last episode,
but, hell...I might just watch one more episode....
I still think there's plenty of 'Walt' left in Walter White (vice the evil Heisenberg 'Mr. Hyde'), but I don't know if Walt will remain by the finale.
I thought the show really portrayed meth addiction well in a variety of scenes (like Wendy the hooker, some of the meth dealers and the death of street dealers). I don't see how there could be any winners with a methamphetamine drug trade, and I predict the show will continue to echo that sentiment (regardless of how the final season wraps up).
There's only 2 more episodes this season, correct?
Then another 8 episode season.
I dont think Walt will be killed yet. I'm hoping Walt is left all alone in a prison cell with his wife, son, and baby all dead due to his arrogance.
This isnt a pretty show to watch and it just got quit a bit darker last week..tonight will tell
LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 96154 08-19-2012 11:30 PM
What is Walt's body count at this point? Am I missing any?
- One guy gassed to death in the RV
- Crazy 8 strangled in the basement
- 2 gangsters ran over and then executed point blank
- 2 or 3 of Gus' men in the lab, shot
- Gus and his sidekick, and we'll count Hector also so 3 in the explosion
- Gail, Jesse shot him but Walt ordered it so I'm counting that
So what are we up to, 11 people dead because of Walt and 10 of them killed with his own hands.
DAMN dude Walt is officially a stone cold gangster. . . 11 murders is pretty damn gangster.
I'm betting that by the end of the season it will be at least 15, probably closer to 20.
Shakey1 Subscriber User ID: 112591 08-20-2012 12:25 PM
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There's only 2 more episodes this season, correct?
Then another 8 episode season.
I dont think Walt will be killed yet. I'm hoping Walt is left all alone in a prison cell with his wife, son, and baby all dead due to his arrogance.
This isnt a pretty show to watch and it just got quit a bit darker last week..tonight will tell
That sounds about right, Fooey. Walt's in 'empire-building' mode, so should be an interesting mid-final season climax these next two episodes!
I could definitely see Walt/Heisenberg in prison by the series finale, too, but you just never know....
LoP GuestWrote:
What is Walt's body count at this point? Am I missing any?
- One guy gassed to death in the RV
- Crazy 8 strangled in the basement
- 2 gangsters ran over and then executed point blank
- 2 or 3 of Gus' men in the lab, shot
- Gus and his sidekick, and we'll count Hector also so 3 in the explosion
- Gail, Jesse shot him but Walt ordered it so I'm counting that
So what are we up to, 11 people dead because of Walt and 10 of them killed with his own hands.
DAMN dude Walt is officially a stone cold gangster. . . 11 murders is pretty damn gangster.
I'm betting that by the end of the season it will be at least 15, probably closer to 20.
Breaking Bad death-pool numerology
He's still got a ways to go to catch up to Obama, though.
(This post was last modified: 08-20-2012 12:31 PM by Shakey1.)
Shakey1 Subscriber User ID: 112591 08-20-2012 12:30 PM
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Good episode last night: I thought the dealing with the kid who was killed was handled well for the characters (although Walt's whistling during the cook may be indicating Walt is not really that concerned about a kid being killed due to their illegal, methamphetamine-related activities).
The show always seems to leave you wanting more by the end of the current episode, though (if you're a fan). Here's a review of last night's show (spoilers): 'Breaking Bad,' Season 5: Analyzing the sixth episode, 'Buyout'
Quote:Walter White’s (Bryan Cranston) business should be booming. His crystal meth crew pulled off a thrilling train robbery last week that yielded methylamine worth $300 million once it’s cooked for the streets. But because Todd (Jesse Plemons) killed the innocent kid who showed up at the scene of the heist, both Mike (Jonathan Banks) and Jesse (Aaron Paul) have decided they want out. They plan to sell off their share of the methylamine to a Phoenix drug connection for $5 million each.
Walt, of course, takes great offense to Jesse’s plan to sell out to his competitors for “pennies on the dollar,” but that doesn’t stop Mike and Jesse from meeting with the potential buyers in the desert. During that conversation, it becomes clear that the motive for the methylamine buy is to eliminate “Fring’s blue” from the streets altogether. That means Walt will need to sell his shares, too, or Mike and Jesse’s deal will fall apart.
Another stunning “Breaking Bad” sequence of stunning events follows, beginning with Jesse unsuccessfully trying to convince the bullheaded Walt to take the money and run. When Walt realizes what’s really about to go down, he races back to the “office” to steal back his methylamine before it’s sold off, but runs into Mike, who was expecting a last-minute Walt drug grab. Mike has a bit of quandary, however. He has already set up a meeting with the DEA (to complain about their harrassment) and needs to lock up Walt while it takes place.
Of course, Walt flexes his criminal mastermind muscles and is able to escape and move the methylamine while Mike’s gone. Back from his meeting with the feds and at the end of his Walter White rope, Mike pulls out his gun and is a heartbeat away from putting a bullet in Walt’s head when Jesse shouts out that there’s a new plan.
“Everybody wins,” Walt says with the pistol pointed at his temple...
What is Walt's body count at this point? Am I missing any?
- One guy gassed to death in the RV
- Crazy 8 strangled in the basement
- 2 gangsters ran over and then executed point blank
- 2 or 3 of Gus' men in the lab, shot
- Gus and his sidekick, and we'll count Hector also so 3 in the explosion
- Gail, Jesse shot him but Walt ordered it so I'm counting that
So what are we up to, 11 people dead because of Walt and 10 of them killed with his own hands.
DAMN dude Walt is officially a stone cold gangster. . . 11 murders is pretty damn gangster.
I'm betting that by the end of the season it will be at least 15, probably closer to 20.
There's death by omission too. Jesse's girlfriend he let choke on her vomit, the people in the crashed airplane that resulted from that.
(This post was last modified: 08-20-2012 03:51 PM by ASA.)
Kanigo2 lop guest User ID: 97971 08-20-2012 04:05 PM
What is Walt's body count at this point? Am I missing any?
- One guy gassed to death in the RV
- Crazy 8 strangled in the basement
- 2 gangsters ran over and then executed point blank
- 2 or 3 of Gus' men in the lab, shot
- Gus and his sidekick, and we'll count Hector also so 3 in the explosion
- Gail, Jesse shot him but Walt ordered it so I'm counting that
So what are we up to, 11 people dead because of Walt and 10 of them killed with his own hands.
DAMN dude Walt is officially a stone cold gangster. . . 11 murders is pretty damn gangster.
I'm betting that by the end of the season it will be at least 15, probably closer to 20.
There's death by omission too. Jesse's girlfriend he let choke on her vomit, the people in the crashed airplane that resulted from that.
and the kid..... makes 13
and the box cutter scene, Victor? that gus killed.
and the guy that mike shot that lidia put a contract hit on mike.
and the guys at the chinese facility where the methlamine came from / the old chinese guy and the woman that drove him to the hospital/ mike threw the shoe.
And Tucos two guys in the wrecking yard.
Tuco.
The entire cartel.
I am just tossing out stuff here..
The kid that shot jesses dealer, and the dealer? forgot his name..Combo
and Spooge...the atm
Timko Registered User User ID: 73780 08-21-2012 08:45 AM
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