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Brigitte Bardot offers to take Sea Shepherd founder's place in prison
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I'm surprised about two things first is why haven't they been blown out of their boots when they board a ship uninvited that act alone is considered piracy.

The second is why hasn't somebody hunted them down on the open sea and sunk the sea shepard no witnesses just oooppppsss they're gone?

We cruise most of the world (we avoid some areas) and if somebody actually boarding the boat the response would be severe. We've had them attempt boarding but once a show of force was displayed they had a walk on water moment.
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RE: Brigitte Bardot offers to take Sea Shepherd founder's place in prison
SexualChocolate  Wrote: (05-16-2012 06:31 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-16-2012 06:19 PM)
Zardoz  Wrote: (05-16-2012 06:09 PM)
Paul Watson and his group Sea Shepherd use terrorist tactics which include holding loaded guns to Captain's heads until they agree to scrap their fishing trip. According to Watson, as long as you don't pull the trigger, you are a non-violent group. . . much like airline hijackers.

I hold them in the same regard as that other terrorist group, PETA - who has burned down many a family farm and assaulted numerous people in public.

It's not that I dislike vegetarians or animal lovers - but I will never support terrorists - even if they can justify the means to their end.


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f*#k you. in the ass. with a canoe oar. you don't like this country, get the f*#k out. or die in a fire. the choice is yours. now that's freedom

Wow, I've never seen you so colorfully articulate in your responses, I think I like the new you!!


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RE: Brigitte Bardot offers to take Sea Shepherd founder's place in prison
HeidiLore  Wrote: (05-16-2012 08:12 PM)
Zardoz  Wrote: (05-16-2012 06:09 PM)
Paul Watson and his group Sea Shepherd use terrorist tactics which include holding loaded guns to Captain's heads until they agree to scrap their fishing trip. According to Watson, as long as you don't pull the trigger, you are a non-violent group. . . much like airline hijackers.

I hold them in the same regard as that other terrorist group, PETA - who has burned down many a family farm and assaulted numerous people in public.

It's not that I dislike vegetarians or animal lovers - but I will never support terrorists - even if they can justify the means to their end.


Actually, PETA doesn't burn down farms. You are mixing them up with the ALF. The ALF feels that PETA doesn't do enough, so they carry out tactics that PETA wouldn't touch.

ALF despises PETA.

I'm pretty sure ALF liked eating cats or something on the show.

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Zardoz  Wrote: (05-16-2012 06:09 PM)
Paul Watson and his group Sea Shepherd use terrorist tactics which include holding loaded guns to Captain's heads until they agree to scrap their fishing trip. According to Watson, as long as you don't pull the trigger, you are a non-violent group. . . much like airline hijackers.

I hold them in the same regard as that other terrorist group, PETA - who has burned down many a family farm and assaulted numerous people in public.

It's not that I dislike vegetarians or animal lovers - but I will never support terrorists - even if they can justify the means to their end.

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Sorry for side-tracking your post, Galaxy. Heartflowers
Cheer Let's get it back on track. Cheer
So what does anyone think about Bardot's offer? Popcorn
I bet she saw the series finale of Desperate Housewives and decided to give it a try in real life. That was a keen move by what's her name who died of cancer at the end.

What would Skippy do?
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SexualChocolate  Wrote: (05-16-2012 06:31 PM)
f*#k you. ....now that's freedom
please don't abuse with the DiaF thing again. I get your pov and opinion. but... D won't have the wishing of death on another poster here, thanks.
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Galaxy  Wrote: (05-16-2012 05:06 PM)
Brigitte Bardot offers to take Sea Shepherd founder's place in prison
Brigitte Bardot, the actress and animal rights campaigner, has offered to take the place of the founder of the Sea Shepherd marine conservation group in prison.

Paul Watson was detained in Germany last week. On Monday, the 61-year-old was ordered by a German court to remain in custody a day after his arrest on a warrant from Costa Rica where he is accused of endangering a shark-finning ship's crew during a confrontation in 2002.

"Being outraged by the fact that he's been put in prison, I offer to take his place because I am his accomplice," Bardot, 77, said in a statement.

"I have always supported Paul Watson, my brother in arms," said the retired French actress who had a Sea Shepherd trimaran named after her in 2011.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...rison.html

Can you imagine the sillyness of this on her part. One person cannot take anothers place in this situation.

Plus, she'd be the only you-who those guys might have seen in decades (well, maybe that's her thought too--lol).
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-16-2012 09:41 PM)
Can you imagine the sillyness of this on her part. One person cannot take anothers place in this situation.


Symbolic gestures can still be powerful ... and besides, you'd probably like her chuckle


Bardot has over the years campaigned against whaling in Japan,
bear-hunting in New Jersey, wolf-hunting in Sweden, dolphin slaughter
in Denmark and other animal rights causes. She is married – for the
fourth time – to a former aide of the founder of France's far-right
anti-immigrant National Front, Jean-Marie Le Pen. She has been
fined for inciting hatred against Muslims by attacking the "Islamisation"
of France and the ritual slaughter of animals in Islamic culture.


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RE: Brigitte Bardot offers to take Sea Shepherd founder's place in prison
Zardoz  Wrote: (05-16-2012 07:58 PM)
Ghenghy  Wrote: (05-16-2012 07:37 PM)
Zardoz  Wrote: (05-16-2012 06:09 PM)
Paul Watson and his group Sea Shepherd use terrorist tactics which include holding loaded guns to Captain's heads until they agree to scrap their fishing trip. According to Watson, as long as you don't pull the trigger, you are a non-violent group. . . much like airline hijackers.



Link please Z, never heard that one.

I'm looking for the specific story - but have to go out for a bit. Here's a few related pieces...

Quote:Greenpeace refuses to co-operate with SSCS by sharing information on the whereabouts of whaling fleets because it says SSCS uses violent tactics. Watson counters this, saying his methods yield results and SSCS has sunk 10 whaling ships, with no injuries caused.

Watson was membership number 008 in Greenpeace. He founded SSCS's forerunner, the Earth Force Society, in 1977, the same year he was voted off Greenpeace's board of directors. There were concerns within Greenpeace over his methods, including an incident when he pulled a club from a sealer's hand and threw it in the water, but Watson claims he left on good terms. However, his departure only highlighted the groups' ideological differences.

In 1986, on being asked what he thought of being labelled an eco-terrorist by Greenpeace, Watson responded by calling them "the Avon Ladies of the environmental movement", something he says they have never forgiven him for. Five years later they agreed to refrain from criticising each other but the truce failed to hold, with each blaming the other for violating it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20...greenpeace

Quote:Sea Shepherd has received support for its tactics against fishing, whaling, and seal hunting from quarters such as media personalities, while critics have called the direct action violent.[4]

Operations have included scuttling and disabling whaling vessels at harbor, intervening in Canadian and Namibian seal hunts,[5] shining laser light into the eyes of whalers,[6][7] throwing bottles of foul-smelling butyric acid onto vessels at sea,[7] boarding of whaling vessels while at sea, and seizure and destruction of drift nets at sea. Sea Shepherd claims that their aggressive actions are necessary as the international community has shown itself unwilling or unable to stop species-endangering whaling and fishing practices.[8] The American,[9] Canadian,[10][11] and Japanese governments,[12] as well as the Institute of Cetacean Research of Japan,[13] have referred to them as terrorists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Shephe...on_Society

Every single time I've ever said that I am against terrorist tactics that violate others' human rights from animal activists - I have always received the same kind of nasty comments declaring I am un-American and deserve to die for my views because animals are suffering or some form of that.

I think that many animal activists are mentally unbalanced to respond so outrageously. It's unwarranted. Why is violence and hatred always the answer for an animal rights activist? Why is it "any method that gets results"?

Beating children gets results. They don't act up. But it's not right, you know? This is so common knowledge that it's in Wiki. Why has no one heard this?

OK, look Z this is how this shit gets overblown and exaggerated. That accusation of "boarding" sounds like an illegal act of piracy, it wasn't. Two Sea Shepherd crew members however did board a Japanese ship with the intent of delivering a message, that is all. No hanky panky, and they were simply turned over to Australian authorities. Big deal.

This thing about holding a gun to somebody's head I'm just refusing to believe... there aint nowhere in the world you can get away with that shit.
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Ghenghy  Wrote: (05-16-2012 10:13 PM)
Zardoz  Wrote: (05-16-2012 07:58 PM)
Ghenghy  Wrote: (05-16-2012 07:37 PM)
Link please Z, never heard that one.

I'm looking for the specific story - but have to go out for a bit. Here's a few related pieces...

Quote:Greenpeace refuses to co-operate with SSCS by sharing information on the whereabouts of whaling fleets because it says SSCS uses violent tactics. Watson counters this, saying his methods yield results and SSCS has sunk 10 whaling ships, with no injuries caused.

Watson was membership number 008 in Greenpeace. He founded SSCS's forerunner, the Earth Force Society, in 1977, the same year he was voted off Greenpeace's board of directors. There were concerns within Greenpeace over his methods, including an incident when he pulled a club from a sealer's hand and threw it in the water, but Watson claims he left on good terms. However, his departure only highlighted the groups' ideological differences.

In 1986, on being asked what he thought of being labelled an eco-terrorist by Greenpeace, Watson responded by calling them "the Avon Ladies of the environmental movement", something he says they have never forgiven him for. Five years later they agreed to refrain from criticising each other but the truce failed to hold, with each blaming the other for violating it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20...greenpeace

Quote:Sea Shepherd has received support for its tactics against fishing, whaling, and seal hunting from quarters such as media personalities, while critics have called the direct action violent.[4]

Operations have included scuttling and disabling whaling vessels at harbor, intervening in Canadian and Namibian seal hunts,[5] shining laser light into the eyes of whalers,[6][7] throwing bottles of foul-smelling butyric acid onto vessels at sea,[7] boarding of whaling vessels while at sea, and seizure and destruction of drift nets at sea. Sea Shepherd claims that their aggressive actions are necessary as the international community has shown itself unwilling or unable to stop species-endangering whaling and fishing practices.[8] The American,[9] Canadian,[10][11] and Japanese governments,[12] as well as the Institute of Cetacean Research of Japan,[13] have referred to them as terrorists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Shephe...on_Society

Every single time I've ever said that I am against terrorist tactics that violate others' human rights from animal activists - I have always received the same kind of nasty comments declaring I am un-American and deserve to die for my views because animals are suffering or some form of that.

I think that many animal activists are mentally unbalanced to respond so outrageously. It's unwarranted. Why is violence and hatred always the answer for an animal rights activist? Why is it "any method that gets results"?

Beating children gets results. They don't act up. But it's not right, you know? This is so common knowledge that it's in Wiki. Why has no one heard this?

OK, look Z this is how this shit gets overblown and exaggerated. That accusation of "boarding" sounds like an illegal act of piracy, it wasn't. Two Sea Shepherd crew members however did board a Japanese ship with the intent of delivering a message, that is all. No hanky panky, and they were simply turned over to Australian authorities. Big deal.

This thing about holding a gun to somebody's head I'm just refusing to believe... there aint nowhere in the world you can get away with that shit.

Nice one Genghy, well said. Thing is, Sea Shepherds are mavericks and as such there will always be a ton of sensationalism, exaggeration and hyperbole added to any story about them.

They are brave and true.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-16-2012 09:41 PM)
Can you imagine the sillyness of this on her part. One person cannot take anothers place in this situation.

Plus, she'd be the only you-who those guys might have seen in decades (well, maybe that's her thought too--lol).

Are you that naive? We are all talking about it because she said what she said. It is in the newspapers because she said what she said. She has no intention or expectation of spending the rest of her life in a Costa Rican jail.

Your second paragraph is even more ridiculous.
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Zardoz  Wrote: (05-16-2012 06:09 PM)
Paul Watson and his group Sea Shepherd use terrorist tactics which include holding loaded guns to Captain's heads until they agree to scrap their fishing trip. According to Watson, as long as you don't pull the trigger, you are a non-violent group. . . much like airline hijackers.

I hold them in the same regard as that other terrorist group, PETA - who has burned down many a family farm and assaulted numerous people in public.

It's not that I dislike vegetarians or animal lovers - but I will never support terrorists - even if they can justify the means to their end.

You would not think they were 'terrorists' if you were the helpless animal being abused. They would be your saviors. It was factory farmers and big pharma that first got animals rights workers labeled 'terrorists' under California law.

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She is married – for the fourth time – to a former aide of the founder of France's far-right anti-immigrant National Front, Jean-Marie Le Pen.

I didn't know she was married to him!

She's my hero.

I have been saddened on my many visits to universities to see young people in their teens who do not have a thought in their head that someone else has not put there. They stand before you after only 17 or 18 years on the planet and are already mindlessly parroting the system’s propaganda.

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It's amazing how many people in this thread throw around the word 'terrorist' and have so little regard for helpless animals. I don't think Sea Shepherd is forceful enough. If someone is beating a seal in the head with a club, they are a sick mutherfucker and deserve that club on their own skull.

I have been saddened on my many visits to universities to see young people in their teens who do not have a thought in their head that someone else has not put there. They stand before you after only 17 or 18 years on the planet and are already mindlessly parroting the system’s propaganda.

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The latest sea shepherd show I saw was them cutting up tuna nets, to "free" them, in a perfectly legal fishery.

What happened when all the rage was "dolphin safe tuna", which, of course, was not so safe for the tuna.
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