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Bubonic plague is back
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Kazakhstan has stepped up border controls with neighboring Kyrgyzstan, while China has refused to send its athletes to a meet there following news of a Kyrgyz teenager having died from bubonic plague, allegedly getting infected by a local rodent.

Kazakhstan has issued a travel warning, urging its citizens not to go to Kyrgyzstan’s Issyk-Kul Lake resorts because of the recently-registered bubonic plague case in the region, according to Rashida Shaikenova, director of the Kazakh Tourist Association, as cited by Tengrinews.kz. The country has also tightened its border controls with its southeastern neighbor.
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SexualChocolate
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Bubonic plague is back
doomed
the black death rises again.

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Capitalist Jesus said "Sell a man a fish,and he will return another day for another fish. Teach a man to fish and you just destroyed your market base, what the hell is wrong with you"
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5* if this is true!

That is some nasty s**t!


Do we have a cure or vaccine for this?? I can't remember

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I was reading the other day that they had quarantined over 30 people who had contact with the teen, including caregivers. I can't remember how many were showing symptoms. I'll see if I can find the article.
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czygyny
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Sireen  Wrote: (08-29-2013 03:14 PM)
5* if this is true!

That is some nasty s**t!


Do we have a cure or vaccine for this?? I can't remember

Bubonic plague is treatable with antibiotics.

Cases show up here in the west all the time.

Unlike the wildfire spreading of this disease of old, it is easily treated if you catch it early and stops with the singular person infected.
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Bubonic plague is back
Comet Negra is back as Comet ISON.
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Empty  Wrote: (08-29-2013 03:11 PM)
http://rt.com/news/bubonic-plague-kyrgyzstan-death-145/

Kazakhstan has stepped up border controls with neighboring Kyrgyzstan, while China has refused to send its athletes to a meet there following news of a Kyrgyz teenager having died from bubonic plague, allegedly getting infected by a local rodent.

Kazakhstan has issued a travel warning, urging its citizens not to go to Kyrgyzstan’s Issyk-Kul Lake resorts because of the recently-registered bubonic plague case in the region, according to Rashida Shaikenova, director of the Kazakh Tourist Association, as cited by Tengrinews.kz. The country has also tightened its border controls with its southeastern neighbor.

From 2012:

Joshua Flynn  Wrote:
I'm sure when it spreads people will be like:

'Oh that's normal. That's a normal plague. Nothing to see here.'

etc etc.

https://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Squirre...pid4343243

How to filter radioactive water:
http://www.oism.org/nwss/s73p919.htm

Disturbed  Wrote: (01-03-2014 07:10 AM)
Would be really nice to get rid of some of the OCD here.
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Joshua Flynn
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czygyny  Wrote: (08-29-2013 04:17 PM)
Sireen  Wrote: (08-29-2013 03:14 PM)
5* if this is true!

That is some nasty s**t!


Do we have a cure or vaccine for this?? I can't remember

Bubonic plague is treatable with antibiotics.

Cases show up here in the west all the time.

Unlike the wildfire spreading of this disease of old, it is easily treated if you catch it early and stops with the singular person infected.

Only so many times the anti-biotics calling card will work.

Inherited resistances, anyone?

(Especially cross-transfer. MRSA hybrid, anyone?)

How to filter radioactive water:
http://www.oism.org/nwss/s73p919.htm

Disturbed  Wrote: (01-03-2014 07:10 AM)
Would be really nice to get rid of some of the OCD here.
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Joshua Flynn  Wrote: (08-29-2013 04:31 PM)
czygyny  Wrote: (08-29-2013 04:17 PM)
Bubonic plague is treatable with antibiotics.

Cases show up here in the west all the time.

Unlike the wildfire spreading of this disease of old, it is easily treated if you catch it early and stops with the singular person infected.

Only so many times the anti-biotics calling card will work.

Inherited resistances, anyone?

(Especially cross-transfer. MRSA hybrid, anyone?)

Good point re resistant strains.
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End The news lately is depressing as f*ck!

I woke up stronger than ever.
Driven by big waves of fire.
To run and yell all the way.
Nothing can hurt me today.

There's a magic inside.
Just waiting to burst out.
The world is a goldmine.
That will melt tomorrow.

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czygyny
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I know that bubonic plague is one of your pet doom theories, JF, and indeed if it became a new strain that was resistant to all known antibiotics or was weaponized it could truly become a problem again...but so could many, many other ailments.

The truth as it stand is this; Yersinia pestis is a bacterial infection. Antibiotics control it, unlike viral infections, which they do not.

It is endemic to the wild rodent populations of the west coast. It's been causing problems for a long time here, but has never gone out of bounds as in the Black Plague of Europe did, and left to itself probably never will.
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Joshua Flynn
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czygyny  Wrote: (08-29-2013 04:48 PM)
The truth as it stand is this; Yersinia pestis is a bacterial infection. Antibiotics control it, unlike viral infections, which they do not.

MRSA is a bacteriological infection.

And, as the name implies, is resistant to anti-biotics.

czygyny  Wrote: (08-29-2013 04:48 PM)
I know that bubonic plague is one of your pet doom theories, JF, and indeed if it became a new strain that was resistant to all known antibiotics or was weaponized it could truly become a problem again...but so could many, many other ailments.

It's one of my predictions, rather than theories.

There have been other candidates suggested, swine, avian etc, but all that scare-mongering did was drive up profits for pharmaceutical companies and doesn't have a valid basis. The bubonic plague, as far as I'm aware, doesn't have a treatment besides anti-biotics (so it's not particularly profitable or interesting to pharmaceutical companies to alert about it).


I believe other posters have recently posted issues regarding the resistivity of fleas to poisons?:
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-2013-Fle...Worst-Ever

Ideal weather conditions, unsanitary conditions in the middle-east, fleas resistant to pesticides. If one reads between the lines, ideal conditions for it to spread.

Wasn't just one, but three others:
http://www.theage.com.au/world/bubonic-p...2sowo.html

Quote:The emergency ministry said that three more people from the same village as the victim were hospitalised on Tuesday on suspicion of being infected with the deadly disease.

Quote:Officials had isolated 131 people as of Tuesday to prevent the possible spread of the disease, said Asylbek Sydykanov, the ministry's public health official.

If it hits poverty, pollution stricken China...

How to filter radioactive water:
http://www.oism.org/nwss/s73p919.htm

Disturbed  Wrote: (01-03-2014 07:10 AM)
Would be really nice to get rid of some of the OCD here.
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czygyny
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The potential is there, JF, I just think there will be other, doomier epidemics of great potential than Black Plague.

I doubt that the fleas in those far reaches of the world have developed a resistance to pesticides. It's the ones in developed areas that have been exposed to treatment over the years and have had the time for them to become resistant.

Fleas, like grasshoppers and earwigs and many other insects have populations that tend to fluctuate in cycles. You'll have years where grasshoppers (locusts) are in normal numbers and then, bam, they blanket the ground and eat it bare (seen it with my own eyes).

Earwigs will get so numerous that every dark, damp spot becomes aboil with thousands of nasty brown pincherbugs. They'll invade houses and can crawl up to the ceilings and get into everything.

Fleas are the same way. You'll have years of normal populations and then when conditions are right you will have a population explosion and even if you spray like mad you'll have them coming in and crawling up your ankles from surrounding areas that are untreated.

Then, in subsequent years, the population crashes and all is normal until the next boom cycles.

We have powerful tools in our arsenal against Black Plague that people ages ago did not; we know what causes it, we know the vectors carrying it, and how to treat it (even if only to isolate).

Unless it has been weaponized I just don't see it becoming a cataclysmic problem.

As far as China is concerned. There have been plenty of rumors that they are heartless enough to just go in and kill everyone exposed to something dangerous.
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I have definitely heard about some cases here in the US... There is an average of 7 reported just here alone. But hey, ya never know - maybe that is what all this preparing for some real 'civil unrest' is all about. Resistant strains of that running rampant would be horrible!! I hope that isn't what kills me... Or any disease before I am 50 anyways...
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Shawnatshawn  Wrote: (08-29-2013 05:20 PM)
I have definitely heard about some cases here in the US... There is an average of 7 reported just here alone. But hey, ya never know - maybe that is what all this preparing for some real 'civil unrest' is all about. Resistant strains of that running rampant would be horrible!! I hope that isn't what kills me... Or any disease before I am 50 anyways...

Well, take comfort in the fact that you won't be suffering long. Victims last about four days, depending on which of the three types of BP you develop and 2/3ds of infected, untreated people die.

Better than dying of cancer, at any rate.
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