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**Mother Mary**

MAD HATTER Wrote:

Mother Mary Wrote:
So, not one persons life has ever been saved by chemo? Or is it that it doesn't save everyone so we dis it?

everyone i have ever known that has had chemo has not survived. i dont know if it prolongs life just a little or if it just racks up a bunch of money for somebody right before these people die.

My dad is still alive because of radiation and chemo. He doesn't have short term memory. And he loses his balance a lot and his vision isn't perfect, but he can still drive, but he is alive, over ten years later.

**Moco** lop guest User ID: 49195 04-19-2012 10:10 PM

kittykat Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
yeah have a girlfriend whose sister was married to the son of a famous cancer researcher in new haven

he hung himself because of all the fraud they were perpetrating and couldn't live with

it's all BS

if you have a healthy immune system, nuttun gonna bother you

Well ,that was counter productive!

He could have DONE something about it?
couldn't he? I mean seriously - gone undercover ?
Given media a scoop - under cover ? Cloaked and voice altered?

I can understand killing yourself if you are sick - or mentally
going down hill...
but if you have knowledge that could alter the course of a whole planet?
Was he being threatened - seems like there is a whole story there- don you have more info. why didn't she come forward - everyone scared?
What? If this is true - she should have contacted the police.
What purpose did all that serve? People take their own lives for selfish reasons usually.
Thankfully he took no one out with him - those are the worst of the worst!
Does she have any proof of this? Heresay? Well whatever, if that is true - I would have told someone... ANYONE who would listen!

Like matt simmons died in a hot tub. It was not suicide but CIA cide. Some people can't always buy the bullshit and to speak up may get snuffed out.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 91107 04-19-2012 10:19 PM

Ok, this is the real deal, that's why you haven't see it before. Watch, learn and pass it on. 30 minutes but may save your life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ-qekFoi-o

**NightHelix** lop guest User ID: 79549 04-19-2012 11:16 PM

Mother Mary Wrote:

MAD HATTER Wrote:
Mother Mary Wrote:
So, not one persons life has ever been saved by chemo? Or is it that it doesn't save everyone so we dis it?

everyone i have ever known that has had chemo has not survived. i dont know if it prolongs life just a little or if it just racks up a bunch of money for somebody right before these people die.

My dad is still alive because of radiation and chemo. He doesn't have short term memory. And he loses his balance a lot and his vision isn't perfect, but he can still drive, but he is alive, over ten years later.

Wow, well I'm glad it does work for some people. Thank goodness my parents don't have cancer. my mom has to go in next Thursday for a breast reduction, i thought they were lying to me when she told me because she does not have that problem or so i would figure, but i asked her the other night if she was telling me the truth and she is. i guess her back problems are attributed to that, i just didn't know her back problems were that bad. she doesn't take anything for it, which all led me to believe that it wasnt the truth. Still though parents worry you as much as kids do.

**NEESIE**

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
My mom has stage 4 cancer right now and I have been desperately doing research to get her on something non-chemo. I've seen how the chemo has ravaged her body and it breaks my heart. I think on some level though, she's so depressed, she's just accepted it. Before all this happened, she would have readily tried natural alternatives. Now she just buys into the spoon-fed crap of Big Pharma and her oncologist. I love her desperately, but sometimes I feel like I'm hitting my head against a wall repeatedly, when it comes to trying to get through to her. Same with my dad, who when it comes to all this, doesn't want to believe that Big Pharma or the oncologists or big, well known hospital she is treating at, would have any alterior motives other than getting people well. It's like watching my mom slowly die and not being able to do anything about it. I can't force the natural stuff into her mouth, so I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Please check out "Rainbow Green Live Cuisine" by Dr. Gabriel Cousens. He talks a lot about his own research into cancer and how he cures it with a raw food diet. It is a really excellent book. It is really hard to talk sense into people when it comes to medicine. My mother has Alzheimer's and my stepdad only ever wants to listen to the doctors and have my mom on 10 different medications, some of which increase her agitation and decrease her quality of life. If I ever try to suggest a different approach he basically says "We are not doctors and I am not listening to anyone but the doctor." I will say "Even though you know they get kickbacks for every prescription they write?" And he says "Yep." Which is just infuriating to the point I have just given up. I do cook her healthy meals, but I know at this point it's a losing battle I'm fighting. With cancer though, nutrition is everything if it's not too late. It sounds like you are where I am at though and I feel your pain, trust me.

recently they are saying that they have found that regular aspirin can stop the spread of cancer Heartflowers

**Joe Neubarth**

NEESIE Wrote:

recently they are saying that they have found that regular aspirin can stop the spread of cancer

With some cancers, all you have to do to stop its growth and spread in the body is simply slightly alter the body chemistry. Hillbillies have long had home remedies for cancer. One of the most common is Apple Cider vinegar. They just take a shot glass full every morning (followed by a quick drink of water) and they hold the cancer in remission.

Others have said that they just use old aspirin.

In both cases, you are just making the body a little bit more acidic than normal, but it appears to work in some cases.

**Ðґℙ☺ṧ⊥мαη**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Yep, nothing changes after decades of hundreds of millions of dollars spent. Some people put medicine up on a pedestal but in reality it's pretty barbaric (and corrupt!). Still after all these years the main treatment for cancer is deadly itself and involves poisoning all the healthy cells. A big problem with chemotherapy is that once is is done, the body does not respond to nutritional therapy which is really the best treatment but is too radical for most people, and of course, worthless to big pharma, with chemo costing $30,000 a session. What incentive to they have to find a better cure when chemo costs that much and requires multiple rounds, usually kills the person in the end anyway somehow, which requires more medicine and treatment. There is no incentive to find a cure for anything when this is all about money. They don't want us healthy, period.

Some of it, but not all of it. I'd hold up St. Jude's Children's Research
Hospital as a shinning example any day. They've taken cancer survival
rates from the single digits back in the 1960s when it opened to mostly
80 to 90 percentiles in most cancers. The people there are no less
than miracle workers.

**silversides** · (This post was last modified: 04-20-2012 06:16 AM by silversides.)

Thank you mods for pinning this.

**GLNLI** lop guest User ID: 88810 04-20-2012 06:36 AM

DR.P. SAYS

QUOTE

Some of it, but not all of it. I'd hold up St. Jude's Children's Research
Hospital as a shinning example any day. They've taken cancer survival
rates from the single digits back in the 1960s when it opened to mostly
80 to 90 percentiles in most cancers. The people there are no less
than miracle workers.

UNQUOTE

IF TRUE/ACCURATE VERY LAUDABLE INDEED.

I DO HOWEVER HAVE ONE SIMPLE QUESTION.

WE LIVE IN AN AGE OF INSTANT COMMUNICATION, MASS RESEARCH DATA BASES, INTERNET RESEARCH GROUPS, THE WORKS.

IF THIS PROTOCOL IS SO GOOD, WHY IS IT NOT PROMULGATED AROUND THE WORLD?

GL

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 91381 04-20-2012 12:41 PM

you want a cure ? use cannabis oil.

**JBG** lop guest User ID: 12288 04-20-2012 12:45 PM

Seems there is a similar pattern here - not to mention the whole GW boondoggle.

The EPA's Faulty Science Can Be Stopped
By John Dale Dunn & Steve Milloy

United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)-sponsored and funded "human health effects science" research is unreliable and makes irresponsible and outrageous claims about how air pollution causes thousands of deaths. Then the EPA claims that it can prevent those deaths with its latest set of regulations of emissions. This junk science can be challenged effectively, legally, and politically, as described below.
The science misconduct is the result of the politicization of public health science, something Eisenhower warned about in his farewell speech in 1961. There are political, judicial, and administrative solutions to this perfidy.

First, what is the junk science?
Judging Science: Scientific Knowledge and the Federal Courts ( MIT press, 1995), by Peter Huber, Ph.D., J.D. and Ken Foster, Ph.D. -- written two years after the Supreme Court decision in Daubert v. Merrell Dow 509 U.S. 579 (1993), is a comprehensive and thorough book on junk science and legal solutions to prevent junk evidence. The book also explains Daubert evidentiary dicta, discussed in a previous essay.

We also discussed the Reference Manual on Scientific Evidence (RSME) (1994, 2000, and 2011), published by the Federal Judicial Center, intended to educate judges on their Daubert duty to be gatekeepers for reliable scientific evidence in the courtroom.
Fallacious thinking makes EPA research in human health effects science unreliable, forsaking the most important responsibility of a scientist: be your own most severe critic, and retain a skeptical attitude about your ideas and theories. The key is to test your hypothesis -- your theory. If it can't be tested, it isn't science.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/04/t...z1sZmWXole

**No Cure Until System Changes** lop guest User ID: 89734 04-20-2012 01:17 PM

If they cure cancer they are out of jobs. So they lie to fake progress which keeps the grants coming.

If cancer is cured it will be done by China, or Japan or some other country with real research. Our researchers just want to keep their jobs. Everything is profit oriented here. If the cure cance an entire industry of treating it will also disappear.

Same with alternative fuels. Japan has no resources, so they would be the first to perfect a cheap alternative fuel that would put the oil companies out of business.

**Jessica6** · (This post was last modified: 04-20-2012 03:10 PM by Jessica6.)

Mother Mary Wrote:

MAD HATTER Wrote:
Mother Mary Wrote:
So, not one persons life has ever been saved by chemo? Or is it that it doesn't save everyone so we dis it?

everyone i have ever known that has had chemo has not survived. i dont know if it prolongs life just a little or if it just racks up a bunch of money for somebody right before these people die.

My dad is still alive because of radiation and chemo. He doesn't have short term memory. And he loses his balance a lot and his vision isn't perfect, but he can still drive, but he is alive, over ten years later.

I know someone who survived cancer via chemo as well. He lost a fair amount of weight but he recovered pretty well.

It really depends on the type of cancer, the stage it's in, the organs or tissue affected, etc.

My aunt had a cancerous tumor on her skin and all they did was snip it out.

**Devout Agnostic**

MrDeacon Wrote:

I'm not surprised but certainly disgusted.

What really makes me sad, is because of these selfish motives humanity's progress is suffering... big time!

LoP Guest Wrote:

Its all about the money only.

It is about so much more than the money, which, admittedly, is substantial. These f*cking drugs are not just 'ineffective', 9 times out of 10 they worsen or cause the conditions they purport to ease or improve.

**Ðґℙ☺ṧ⊥мαη** · (This post was last modified: 04-21-2012 05:49 AM by Ðґℙ☺ṧ⊥мαη.)

GLNLI Wrote:

DR.P. SAYS

QUOTE

Some of it, but not all of it. I'd hold up St. Jude's Children's Research
Hospital as a shinning example any day. They've taken cancer survival
rates from the single digits back in the 1960s when it opened to mostly
80 to 90 percentiles in most cancers. The people there are no less
than miracle workers.

UNQUOTE

IF TRUE/ACCURATE VERY LAUDABLE INDEED.

I DO HOWEVER HAVE ONE SIMPLE QUESTION.

WE LIVE IN AN AGE OF INSTANT COMMUNICATION, MASS RESEARCH DATA BASES, INTERNET RESEARCH GROUPS, THE WORKS.

IF THIS PROTOCOL IS SO GOOD, WHY IS IT NOT PROMULGATED AROUND THE WORLD?

GL

I don't know why the St. Jude model isn't replicated more, but it
works here and thousands of children are alive today to testify to
it. I used to do volunteer work there. I've seen the miracles. They
are very real.

No Cure Until System
Changes Wrote:

If they cure cancer they are out of jobs. So they lie to fake progress which keeps the grants coming.

The scientists I knew at St. Jude would be happy to lose their jobs
because of a total cure. They'd just move on to other areas of
scientific research.