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Cannabis and Schizophrenia
Devout Agnostic
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08-09-2012 09:02 AM

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Post: #31
RE: Cannabis and Schizophrenia
LoP Guest  Wrote:
For sure. And you could say depression is just deep thought. The problem is that non of this stuff is recognised for what it is. So there is no information or guidance available to the people that must travel these paths.

I'm fond of saying I don't believe in mental illness, but in one sense, the reaction one would have to deep thoughts about a world so profoundly sick is really the definition of mental illness, isnt it? And from the perspective of personal, individual interest, we who dwell on such things to our detriment really are crazy.

Just saying. That's why the language sticks. It all depends on your values.

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08-09-2012 09:04 AM

 



Post: #32
RE: Cannabis and Schizophrenia
some of the most thought provoking discussions i have ever had always seem to arise between my friends and i when we are high. not that we don't talk about the daily crazy or some conspiracy theory or some interesting thing one of us heard or read without the stuff, but it really is a great tool to those who respect it and know how to use it.

it can literally show you the path through the woods when you couldn't see it before. that is why the discussions always get more intense as we get more lifted. we rise up, seeing the canopy from above it is much easier to understand things with a much wider perspective.

in my opinion it is a tool from god or aliens or the universe or something of the like. it is an amazing plant that can help us to release our inhibitions and face our own darkness to unlock our inner light. when the darkness comes out people get scared, some don't know how to face that, some get caught and embrace that. that is why, i think, some demonize this plant. it doesn't make you paranoid or a schizo. if that is coming out when you get high that is something that is already within you. it has been used by man for thousands of years as a spiritual tool and it truly is a magical thing. i look forward to the day when we can all do what we want in peace again.
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08-09-2012 09:57 AM

 



Post: #33
RE: Cannabis and Schizophrenia
Devout Agnostic  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
For sure. And you could say depression is just deep thought. The problem is that non of this stuff is recognised for what it is. So there is no information or guidance available to the people that must travel these paths.

I'm fond of saying I don't believe in mental illness, but in one sense, the reaction one would have to deep thoughts about a world so profoundly sick is really the definition of mental illness, isnt it? And from the perspective of personal, individual interest, we who dwell on such things to our detriment really are crazy.

Just saying. That's why the language sticks. It all depends on your values.

No, that would be sanity.

Oh sorry, that is today's definition of 'ill'.
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RaXz
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08-09-2012 10:18 AM

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Post: #34
RE: Cannabis and Schizophrenia
Alcohol is way more dangerous than cannabis, but authorities don't look at that as it's taxed and holy and all that. Usually no talk about alcohol psychosis, but much talk about the devilish cannabis smoke that people should lay off and start drinking holy booze, sometimes it's like that drunk people get possessed in the way they act, never seen that with cannabis. Sure it can open doors that best stay closed, like alcohol, but to blame it? I think 'Government and schizophrenia' is a better title in that regard.

And besides that politics made it paramount to get everything negative surrounding cannabis in the open, while stomping down everything positive, same old boring story. More and more doctors are looking into the treatment capabilities if it comes to schizophrenia and autism with certain strains of cannabis, even helping people kick off alcohol and other hard drugs with the help of cannabis.

If alcohol would do that it would be frontpage news, but if it comes to cannabis it's just not negative enough. You hear more about cannabis causing schizophrenia than treating it, while the latter is more realistic but not to politics.

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Post: #35
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It's been my observation in working with young students with disabilities over the course of many years that those who exhibit ADHD, bi-polar, and schizophrenia regularly had a mother who was taking anti-depressants while pregnant or who quit them a mere 2-3 months before becoming pregnant. Mom often has a difficult pregnancy and the child may be born with disabilities associated with that as well. Kids with such disorders as listed above often lack impulse control and grow up with low self-esteem because they are always being treated like they are a pest. Many have learning disabilities. They are put on prescription meds as youngsters and learn that substances are a "good" thing. Then comes the alcohol, pot, illegal drugs...
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Post: #36
RE: Cannabis and Schizophrenia
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Omega  Wrote:
High usage of Sativa dominant or pure landrace Sativa's has been known to cause Schizophrenia, paranoia, etc. The upside is the hallucinogenic properties are greater than an Indica dominant strain. Indica is the way to go if you want to avoid/minimize this...possibility...more relaxing...good for pain relief IMO....

Go back to GLP, shill.

Everyone here knows who you are, and there are no people left who think cannabis is negative.

Tell your handlers that it's not working anymore.
I'm glad someone feels the same def shill and he is a mod? Lmao what a slapstick
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daisy
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08-09-2012 03:12 PM

 



Post: #37
RE: Cannabis and Schizophrenia
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Devout Agnostic  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
my opinion: they all contribute to a sick society and a sick society increases mental illness.

I pretty much agree with this statement, but I think that Schizophrenia falls into a special category of diagnoses that are actually not mental illnesses at all. Schizophrenia has been known for many millennia as shamanism, and those who had it were a blessing to the tribe because they interacted with the spirit world, and used those interactions to keep evil at bay and heal the sick.

Imagine toking up in your dorm room one day, and all the sudden you realize the planet is swimming in demons, and they're all looking for YOU. the demons tell their human minions, who then proceed to stalk and harrass you with bizarre interactions and energy weapons. You don't understand what's going on, but when you try to put into words, somebody suggests you go see a counselor. You go to the nice counselor, he tells you its all in your head, and all you have to do is take these drugs that shut off a certain part of your brain.

The part that makes you 'see' things.

Then the harrassment stops. Unless you stop taking your medication... they know, because they're watching you.

For sure. And you could say depression is just deep thought. The problem is that non of this stuff is recognised for what it is. So there is no information or guidance available to the people that must travel these paths.

depression is a path. its actually like a double black diamond trail. not everyone will make it down the mountain.

managing depression is like getting from point A to point B. and so on. you need to only stay focused on the task at hand (whatever that may be), then proceed with caution until you hit another bump in you road/path.
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daisy
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08-09-2012 03:18 PM

 



Post: #38
RE: Cannabis and Schizophrenia
RaXz  Wrote:
Alcohol is way more dangerous than cannabis, but authorities don't look at that as it's taxed and holy and all that. Usually no talk about alcohol psychosis, but much talk about the devilish cannabis smoke that people should lay off and start drinking holy booze, sometimes it's like that drunk people get possessed in the way they act, never seen that with cannabis. Sure it can open doors that best stay closed, like alcohol, but to blame it? I think 'Government and schizophrenia' is a better title in that regard.

And besides that politics made it paramount to get everything negative surrounding cannabis in the open, while stomping down everything positive, same old boring story. More and more doctors are looking into the treatment capabilities if it comes to schizophrenia and autism with certain strains of cannabis, even helping people kick off alcohol and other hard drugs with the help of cannabis.

If alcohol would do that it would be frontpage news, but if it comes to cannabis it's just not negative enough. You hear more about cannabis causing schizophrenia than treating it, while the latter is more realistic but not to politics.

alcohol will never go away, too much money to be made off it... besides, once the consumer becomes an alcoholic they will get shepherded into alcoholics anonymous, one of the most powerful brainwashing cults in modern day history.

couple that with their docs prescribing anti-depressants for their depression after they can't self medicate with alcohol anymore and you've got a nice bunch of controlled, sedated and easily manipulated people.


Cheer
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Blue Waffle
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08-09-2012 03:43 PM

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Post: #39
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Joe Neubarth  Wrote:
Increased levels of cannabis use by the general public is not associated with proportionally rising incidences of schizophrenia or other psychotic disorders.

Schizophrenia and Paranoia and Manic Depressive Disorder and Chronic Depression are all diseases that can be passed from generation to generation as they are carried in DNA. Ironically, a father can not pass any of the diseases to his son since they are carried on the missing leg of the Y chromosome. A mother can pass it to her son or daughter.

There has been a marked increase in these mental disorders in countries with elevated Background Radiation, such as the United States which now has a Background Radiation level twice that of Australia. We all know that Radiation strikes cause DNA damage and thus new cases of mental illness.

All of the mass murders in the United States have been committed by people who have mental illnesses. I have seen several newspaper articles that point out the the murderers frequently have THC in their system when they commit the horrible acts that they have been guilty of.

The correlation? Simple, most mentally ill people try to self medicate. Some use Alcohol and some use Cannabis (Marijuana) because both elevate their moods from the depths of depression.

When I drink alcohol, I feel slowed down, but when depressed people drink they have a sense of elation that I do not experience. Hence many depressed people become alcoholics. Those people who do not like the effects of alcohol (hangovers) switch to Cannabis because you do not get a hangover from pot. I have never seen Cannabis cause anybody to have Schizophrenic mental illness, but I have seen many Schizophrenic people smoke pot.

then why mention it, and where is link to study...
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mental illness is as mental illness does. --Gorrest Fump

Lmao

I think you missed the point, dude...

Best description of an Acid Trip you'll ever read:
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Jhikpghf
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Blue Waffle
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08-09-2012 03:46 PM

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Post: #40
RE: Cannabis and Schizophrenia
Devout Agnostic  Wrote:
LoP Guest  Wrote:
my opinion: they all contribute to a sick society and a sick society increases mental illness.

I pretty much agree with this statement, but I think that Schizophrenia falls into a special category of diagnoses that are actually not mental illnesses at all. Schizophrenia has been known for many millennia as shamanism, and those who had it were a blessing to the tribe because they interacted with the spirit world, and used those interactions to keep evil at bay and heal the sick.

Imagine toking up in your dorm room one day, and all the sudden you realize the planet is swimming in demons, and they're all looking for YOU. the demons tell their human minions, who then proceed to stalk and harrass you with bizarre interactions and energy weapons. You don't understand what's going on, but when you try to put into words, somebody suggests you go see a counselor. You go to the nice counselor, he tells you its all in your head, and all you have to do is take these drugs that shut off a certain part of your brain.

The part that makes you 'see' things.

Then the harrassment stops. Unless you stop taking your medication... they know, because they're watching you.

I feel for this answer...

It rings true from my experience with friends who "suffer from" schizophrenia (in this society)...

Best description of an Acid Trip you'll ever read:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/37203387/LSD25...-Pollution
Jhikpghf
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08-09-2012 05:51 PM

 



Post: #41
RE: Cannabis and Schizophrenia
All I see is "I feel" and "my experience". No fuxkin links all you govt bitches can go to hell haha


Clearly this is all speculation lol



Grab them checks and cash out
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Zardoz
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08-09-2012 05:59 PM

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Post: #42
RE: Cannabis and Schizophrenia
The DIAGNOSIS of psychotic disorders is epidemic. Of course, that's just a money making scam by big pharma. One thing for certain is that if you take psychiatric drugs, it can cause psychosis after a while. Taking big pharma drugs will make you crazy. There are more big pharma drugs being prescribed to children and grown ups than ever before. I've got links, but you're all in the choir and know how to use a search engine, right?

Pot doesn't have much to do with psychotic snaps - anymore than what kind of shoes they were wearing or whether or not they drink coffee. (imo)

By the way, almost all the school shooters were on psychiatric drugs or experiencing withdrawl symptoms at the time of the shoot ups. It's not guns that are the issue either.

IT'S THE PSYCHIATRIC DRUGS THAT MAKE PEOPLE NUTS!

To suggest it's one of nature's plants, a vegetable for gawd's sake's is PERVERSE. Are YOU on psych drugs, OP? What is wrong with you?

I know a family whose Mother is on a cocktail of psych drugs. They are trying to figure out how to get the kids away from her. Her Mom thinks she has gone insane from the psych drugs she's been on for the last 10 years (antidepressants) and the huge doses since her latest psychiatric diagnosis. She is getting worse, not better with drugs.
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Post: #43
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Schizophrenic mushroom-eating turmeric chewing blah blah blah NIGHTS.

CANNABIS! Jhikpghf

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08-09-2012 06:09 PM

 



Post: #44
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Omega  Wrote:
High usage of Sativa dominant or pure landrace Sativa's has been known to cause Schizophrenia, paranoia, etc. The upside is the hallucinogenic properties are greater than an Indica dominant strain. Indica is the way to go if you want to avoid/minimize this...possibility...more relaxing...good for pain relief IMO....
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GreenAQ
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Post: #45
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Ok, a serious response this time: I think cannabis, like any other earth-produced drug (mushrooms...uh, can't think of others off the top of my head now), can only help us get closer to the truth. Now, are there people who are already (genetically? otherwise?) prone to develop psychosis/schizophrenia/bipolar and they smoke too? Yes, of course. The cannabis MAY (and this is just conjecture on my part) enhance these symptoms. As it is an enhancer. That means if you are a seeker of truth, the cannabis will open up channels in that direction.

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