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Chinese navy takes delivery of first aircraft carrier
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Paid for by WalMart customers in the USA.

Good old Corporate America and its Western Allies....

Everyone is bagging the ship, however it is a useful tool for promoting power within the region militarily and psychologically. China has the factories both industrial and tech based to gear up for war over a nice planned period of time. The west is all to glad to sell it all the raw materials it needs in order to try and balance their economies, which have failed due to corporate greed and political weakness. We give them all the good stuff, they give us shoddy made cheap goods.

After centuries of being shat upon by the west and japan it has alot of unfinished business that it wants to attend too.

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A SHIP NEEDS SAILORS NOT NUMBERS

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A SHIP NEEDS SAILORS NOT NUMBERS

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NOT DIGGING AT YOU SPANK BUT THE ARMCHAIR WARMONGERS AND EXPERTS.

POINT I AM MAKING IS NAVY'S NEED GOOD SAILORS. MANY EXAMPLES OF SOME HAVING THE VERY BEST HARDWARE THERE WAS, I.E NAZI NAVY AND THE LAST SHOGUNATE NAVY. MEANT DIDLY IN THE END.

A MODERN AIRCRAFT CARRIER, EVEN MORE SO, EXPERTISE AND OPERATIONAL ABILITY IS NEED IN DEPTH IN SO MANY VITAL AREAS.

JUST CHUCKING 4,000 MEN ON IT, DOING SOME DRILLS AND TRAINING DOES NOT MAKE THEM AN EFFECTIVE INTEGRATED AND EFFICIENT FIGHTING FORCE. EVEN IF THEY COPY FROM OTHERS.

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the cabal creating another cold war. chinerse numbers are going to be use to hird us all into camps
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MMM YES

AIRCRAFT CARRIERS ARE IDEAL CAMP HERDERS.

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NOT DIGGING AT YOU SPANK BUT THE ARMCHAIR WARMONGERS AND EXPERTS.

POINT I AM MAKING IS NAVY'S NEED GOOD SAILORS. MANY EXAMPLES OF SOME HAVING THE VERY BEST HARDWARE THERE WAS, I.E NAZI NAVY AND THE LAST SHOGUNATE NAVY. MEANT DIDLY IN THE END.

A MODERN AIRCRAFT CARRIER, EVEN MORE SO, EXPERTISE AND OPERATIONAL ABILITY IS NEED IN DEPTH IN SO MANY VITAL AREAS.

JUST CHUCKING 4,000 MEN ON IT, DOING SOME DRILLS AND TRAINING DOES NOT MAKE THEM AN EFFECTIVE INTEGRATED AND EFFICIENT FIGHTING FORCE. EVEN IF THEY COPY FROM OTHERS.

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That was what they were doing with the ex-HMAS Melbourne
Training...
I think we will see an increase in Chinese carrier programs in the next few years. They have the basis of a design albeit a crappy ex-Soviet one and will use it to project power within the region they regard as their sphere of influenced. At the moment China wants to squabble with everyone (Vietnam,India, Japan, Philipines and Sth Korea) over shitty territory. She is testing the reactions of her neighbours. She can afford an arms race. No one else can. She has not learnt to control her new found military power and I would compare her to a wayward teenager at the moment. Diplomatic engagement with the outside world has never been a strong suite of The Middle Kingdom.

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Perhaps its power is as much psychological as anything else.

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Chinese navy takes delivery of first aircraft carrier

CHINA'S first aircraft carrier has been handed over to the navy of the People's Liberation Army, state press said, amid rising tensions over disputed waters in the East and South China Seas.
The handover ceremony of the 300-metre (990-foot) ship, a former Soviet carrier called the Varyag, took place in northeast China's port of Dalian after a lengthy refitting by a Chinese shipbuilder, the Global Times reported.
During the handover ceremony the aircraft carrier raised the Chinese national flag on its mast, the PLA flag on its bow and the navy's colours on its stern, the short online report said.
A ceremony to place the ship into active service would be held sometime in the future, the paper said without elaboration.
China's defence ministry was unavailable to comment on the ceremony.
The announcement comes at a time of heightened tensions over maritime disputes in the Asia-Pacific region, where China's growing assertiveness has put it on a collision course with Japan, Vietnam and the Philippines.
China has also postponed a ceremony marking the 40th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic ties with Japan, due to a noisy territorial dispute with Tokyo over the Diaoyu Islands, known in Japanese as Senkaku.
Tensions have also risen this year with Vietnam and the Philippines over disputed islands in the South China Sea.
Beijing confirmed last year it was revamping the old Soviet ship, and has repeatedly insisted the carrier poses no threat to its neighbours and will be used mainly for training and research purposes.
But numerous sea trials of the aircraft carrier - currently only known as Number 16 - since August 2011 were met with concern from regional powers including Japan and the United States, which called on Beijing to explain why it needed an aircraft carrier.
Construction of the Varyag originally ended with the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union.
China reportedly bought the carrier's immense armoured hull - with no engine, electrics or propeller - from Ukraine in 1998 and began to refit the vessel in Dalian in 2002.
The PLA - the world's largest active military - is extremely secretive about its defence programs, which benefit from a huge and expanding military budget boosted by the nation's runaway economic growth.
China's military budget officially reached $US106 billion ($101 billion) in 2012, an 11.2 per cent increase.
According to a report issued by the Pentagon in May, Beijing is pouring money into advanced air defences, submarines, anti-satellite weapons and anti-ship missiles that could all be used to deny an adversary access to strategic areas, such as the South China Sea.
China's real defence spending amounts to between $US120 to $US180 billion, the report said.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/wor...6479871800

Let the cheap copying of Naval Carriers BEGIN! muahahaha Lmao


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They bent the front end.Hiding3
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I have to wonder if China is already the worlds most powerful nation. If not yet they soon will be. It looks like a very impressive aircraft carrier.

Flying jets off carriers is an experienced man's game with a very steep learning curve.

They are gonna f*ck up...bigtime...

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U didn't build that.
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