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Oh I can already feel the love....

*Experts warn of the rise of "ex-gay" counselling
*Can lead to increase in depression, mental illness
*Kids as young as 12 believed to have gone to sessions

GAY teens are being sent to counselling to turn them "straight" through controversial therapies that are facing a ban overseas.
Experts warn that the practice is rife in Queensland as desperate parents and some Christian leaders try to get children to change their sexuality.
California is looking at banning "ex-gay" - or reparative - therapies for minors due to concerns about the potential long-term harm to young people.
Brisbane psychologist Paul Martin has helped children as young as 14 who have been severely affected by the therapies and is contacted by a new patient every few weeks.
"The psychological damage being done to Queenslanders under our noses as we speak is just horrendous," he warned.
Mr Martin underwent - and then carried out "gay recovery" programs - with Exodus ministries in Melbourne 25 years ago but quit and now supports "survivors".
The therapies treat homosexuality as a psychological disorder that can develop from factors such as sexual abuse as a child or a lack of strong parental figures. In some cases, therapies involve banning males from kitchens or instructing people to wear more masculine or feminine clothes.
"With Christian reparative therapy, being gay is not only a psychological disorder but it is inherently sinful, which means every time they have a thought about a boy or girl they believe there are going to hell," Mr Martin said.
"If you start saying that to a kid at that age during puberty, it instils a belief that they are defective and that can cause depression and turn the volume up much higher in suicide and mental illness."
Exodus Asia Pacific's website lists five ministries in Queensland, two in NSW and one in Victoria that claim they can help people overcome homosexuality. The ministries did not return calls last week.
The Australian Psychological Society recommended in 2000 that practitioners refrain from therapies that attempted to change a person's sexuality.
But a research project set to be released within months has found Australian psychologists and psychiatrists are covertly using or recommending the therapies.
Bond University masters student Heidi Jansen said a sample of 268 lesbian and bisexual women from across the country revealed that some were encouraged to complete conversion therapy to "cure" them of their sexuality.
The British Association of Counselling last year found UK Christian therapist Lesley Pilkington guilty of professional malpractice after telling a gay undercover journalist homosexuality was a "mental illness" that could be overcome.
Sydney-based Anthony Venn-Brown - who also went through the therapy and now warns of its dangers - said online courses were "the most dangerous of all".
"People don't know who they are contacting," Mr Venn-Brown said.
"These people are not professionally trained - not psychologists. I know of people who have attempted suicide after trying it."
Brisbane filmmaker Heather Corkhill, who investigated "ex-gay" therapy in Australia for her documentary The Cure, said children as young as 12 were believed to have gone through the programs.
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WHAT THEY BELIEVE
* Ex-gay ministries treat homosexuality as a failing that can be overcome like an alcohol, drug or gambling addiction
* They link homosexuality to sexual abuse as a child or the search for a father figure
* Along with worship and prayer, gay Christians are encouraged to go to regular meetings on topics such as the true feminine and the true masculine
* Often, participants are bombarded with testimonials from former gay leaders who claim they have transformed their sexual orientation
* Participants also can enter 12-week courses or go away on weekend retreats. Groups are aware of the scrutiny and some offer participants the option to pay in cash or via PayPal to avoid linking the person back to the organisation


http://www.news.com.au/national/gods-sho...6390078741

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I'm about tired of the homosexual agenda being pushed in everyone's faces.

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What is being gay?!

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LoP Guest  Wrote:

I'm about tired of the homosexual agenda being pushed in everyone's faces.

So equal rights is not something you care for. Way to out yourself bigot.

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LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I'm about tired of the homosexual agenda being pushed in everyone's faces.

So equal rights is not something you care for. Way to out yourself bigot.

They don't want equal rights. They want special rights. Rights not afforded to anyone else in America.

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LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I'm about tired of the homosexual agenda being pushed in everyone's faces.

So equal rights is not something you care for. Way to out yourself bigot.

bigot reminds me of another word that ends with got!

Post: #7

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I'm about tired of the homosexual agenda being pushed in everyone's faces.

So equal rights is not something you care for. Way to out yourself bigot.

They don't want equal rights. They want special rights. Rights not afforded to anyone else in America.

Which are?

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LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I'm about tired of the homosexual agenda being pushed in everyone's faces.

So equal rights is not something you care for. Way to out yourself bigot.

They don't want equal rights. They want special rights. Rights not afforded to anyone else in America.

No, they don't. Stop believing your stupid preacher. Christians have specials rights, they choose their religion but are protected for it. Gays only want the same protection rights that Christians have. Nothing more and nothing special.

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FreedomStands  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

I'm about tired of the homosexual agenda being pushed in everyone's faces.

So equal rights is not something you care for. Way to out yourself bigot.

bigot reminds me of another word that ends with got!

Wow...you are clever.

Post: #10

LoP Guest  Wrote:

FreedomStands  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

So equal rights is not something you care for. Way to out yourself bigot.

bigot reminds me of another word that ends with got!

Wow...you are clever.

Thank You!

Did you figure out what word I meant?

http://www.scrabblefinder.com/ends-with/got/

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I don't really want to cling to these threads anymore so I'll make a brief statement.

christianity (i.e. tammuzanity) is schizophrenic. On one hand they want to promote peace and tolerance but on the other hand they want to do it with missiles and guns. Typical babylonian empire claptrap. The babylonian empire used the story of the "power" of tammuz to get people to submit to their authority; same as with the greeks (adonis,dionysis), romans (jesus, bacchus, cupid) , phoenicians (adon) and same as they're doing now.

You can trace this worship across cultural boundaries...they swap the names back and forth and alter minor points of the stories but same character (tammuz).

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LoP Guest  Wrote:

I don't really want to cling to these threads anymore so I'll make a brief statement.

christianity (i.e. tammuzanity) is schizophrenic. On one hand they want to promote peace and tolerance but on the other hand they want to do it with missiles and guns. Typical babylonian empire claptrap. The babylonian empire used the story of the "power" of tammuz to get people to submit to their authority; same as with the greeks (adonis,dionysis), romans (jesus, bacchus, cupid) , phoenicians (adon) and same as they're doing now.

You can trace this worship across cultural boundaries...they swap the names back and forth and alter minor points of the stories but same character (tammuz).

Who the hell is telling you all these lies!?

The Babylonian Empire did not make a big deal out of Tammuz or use it to try to get people to "submit to their authority".

Tammuz is representation of vegetation, harvest, and fertility.

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LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

So equal rights is not something you care for. Way to out yourself bigot.

They don't want equal rights. They want special rights. Rights not afforded to anyone else in America.

No, they don't. Stop believing your stupid preacher. Christians have specials rights, they choose their religion but are protected for it. Gays only want the same protection rights that Christians have. Nothing more and nothing special.

So you're saying that men who shove their penis' up each others asses and want to call that "marriage" don't consider that more or special
It's often been suggested that they should have the same rights under a different name but NO! Nothing less than preachers in church preaching buttsecs is marriage will do!
It's sort of a strange behavior since gays seem to have a deep seated hatred of religion.... why would they want the approval of a religious organization?
I think they should have equal rights, but why do they have to use a traditionally religious term to describe it? It doesn't make sense... I suppose part of the disorder includes a lack of logic

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LoP Guest  Wrote:

I'm about tired of the homosexual agenda being pushed in everyone's faces.

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I found out my cousin was a gay. I didn't know what else to do but to completely cut him out of my life. I mean, God hates him now, and my pastor said that if I even hang around gays, God will hate me too.

Before cursing him and telling him he was never again welcome near me or my family, I tried to straighten him out by showing him this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w

Can you believe he had the audacity to say that these things aren't true? He said gays don't lick da poo poo like ice cream. He said that he's never eaten da poo poo at all. This video is proof. The Pastor Doctor cannot lie. He is a Pastor Doctor.

I hope one of these groups can cure my cousin. I don't want him to go to hell (even though God and I both hate him).