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Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
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Johntaraz A Hunger Artist User ID: 102052 06-12-2012 09:05 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
•REC Wrote:Johntaraz Wrote:That's an important development.
Ante upped, deeper commitment.
Escalations.
There are reports of a Pentagon denial.
Haven't found a link yet.
Even if it turns out to be untrue, I think we can clearly see where this is headed. China and especially Russia have stated they will oppose any Western intercession in Syria and Iran.
Of course in the end when the dust clears, all parties will be cutting oil and resource deals.
Maybe the State Dept. wants to test the rhetoric or even use it (even if it is true or false) to insert some air resources of their own as a counter move.
Kofi Annan's arm twisting and Al Jazeera propaganda painting this as the Syrian Gov. massacring civilians. And Al Qaeda is now the ally and freedom fighters.
A demonic puppet show where the audience dies in the finale.
"The unexamined life is not worth living."--Socrates"
There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true."
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Most arguments rely on appeals to authority or morality. Truth and reason necessarily rely on neither.
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•REC 14877 User ID: 14877 06-12-2012 09:06 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
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•REC 14877 User ID: 14877 06-12-2012 09:10 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
Another comment by Clinton in the same speech.
Clinton, as well, warned about a massing of Syrian forces near Aleppo over the last two days, saying such a deployment could be a "red line" for Syria's northern neighbor Turkey "in terms of their strategic and national interests."
Turkey earlier said it will intervene in Syria if there is a "large-scale massacre" in big cities such as Aleppo or Damascus.
http://www.acus.org/natosource/clinton-r...elicopters
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 101624 06-12-2012 09:20 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
ja, they are trying, have been for some time, to both claim syrian incursions into turkey, and to provoke a syrian strike on turkey. this is a trap. turkey is NATO, and an attack on any one NATO country is an attack on all. once turkey requests NATO backup, the stage is set for NATO invasion of syria without UN declaration. this will bypass any russian or chinese veto on the SC.
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Fluke Ruse User ID: 88867 06-12-2012 09:29 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
LoP Guest Wrote:ja, they are trying, have been for some time, to both claim syrian incursions into turkey, and to provoke a syrian strike on turkey. this is a trap. turkey is NATO, and an attack on any one NATO country is an attack on all. once turkey requests NATO backup, the stage is set for NATO invasion of syria without UN declaration. this will bypass any russian or chinese veto on the SC.
Russia will respond to any NATO attack.
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King_David Registered User User ID: 102048 06-12-2012 09:49 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
Luvapottamus Wrote:King_David Wrote:You people need to get a clue, how long has the Assad Family ruled Syria?
No elections, no democracy, no rule of the people. 13%( Shiite Twelvers ) of the Population over ruling 74%( Sunni's ). This situation is no different than Apartheid was in South Africa and you people a rooting for the oppressors.
Add to that the Assad's and Syrian Shiite's arm and train Hamas and other fighters that kill Israeli, Nato, US, Iraqi, and Afgani men women and children.
Where do you thing the explosives come from for road side bombs?
Who do you think trains the fighters who build these bombs?
Iran and Syria.
This is personal between General David Petraeus( CIA ) and the Assad's and you can bet you ass they are going down.
It was/is his men they were/are killing with these bombs.
You are rooting for the people who are killing US and NATO Troops and bystanders?
Russia and China maybe able to block action by the UN Security Council, but they can't stop NATO from taking action, if Russia puts those birds in the Air I say we Tomahawk their ass.
They have already proven that they will kill their own people to stay in power rather than have free and open elections that they know they would lose.
They are murdering scum tyrants, and those who side with them should be deported to Syria.
There is never a bad time to take out a Tyrant, and these tyrants are going down, God wills it.
I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man
Name one "humanitarian intervention" done since WWII that benefited the victims, I mean oppressed democrats.
I'm not pro-Assad, I'm anti:
![[Image: 9AD4_4FD7905F.jpg]](http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphic/images/2012/June/12/9AD4_4FD7905F.jpg)
The General Strike the Turkish(NATO-why? Not North Atlantic either )
stooges are advocating WORKS.
They should have done that if they wanted to.
Not this bullshit.
War is hell, you're just now figuring that out. What did D.C. look like after the War of 1812?
What did the US look like after the Revolutionary War?
Make no mistake about it, that is what is going on is Syria and all over the Middle East, for better or worse, the People are having Revolution, helped by the CIA and MI6 or whatever Britain has. They are finally having their day in the sun, now you people want to cu to short and side with Russia and China?
Like it or not the Muslim Brotherhood is a Power Broker in that part of the World, it is the Islamic world after all. They are a force, we can not cut them out, they will either kill the tyrants that rule them, or they will try and kill us, and we know they will stop at nothing to do it, because they have nothing to lose.
Life is cheap in that part of the World, that is what needs to change, and it will never change with ruling families like the Assad's who keep most of the people out of the loops of power and dirt poor. They spend all the money on the Security State to stay in Power and buy lavish toys, while the people do without.
Soon, 30 years, all the Oil will be gone from the Middle east, Israel will be alone, surrounded by poor Nations who's leader squandered Oil Riches and did not look after the future of their own peoples. The time for change is now, while there is still Oil money to build self sustaining National infrastructures, because if we do not start now it will be too late.
It takes 25 or 30 years to Nation build, we did not rebuild Japan, Germany, S.Korea overnight, but we did do it with great success. Most people would rather live these places than the US now.
If this is not done, these Arab Nations will be left in the desert with nothing while the families that ruled them jet-set away to Russia or China with the Wealth stolen from the Nation they ruled.
100's of Million's of people, maybe billions, surrounding Israel. Who are they going to blame?
The Jew's, the dirty rotten Jew's.
But it won't stop there, Europe is within reach. A massive ground invasion of mainland Europe of half starved peoples looking for someone to blame, and they will have come to the right place, because we have it with our power to stop this now.
With great power, comes great responsibility, ya got to be able to look down the road and see what is coming, or ya are going to get blind sided by history that keeps repeating itself.
This has all happened before, in it's own way.
A billion man army could reach the North Atlantic, it is in our long term strategic interest to make sure these people have a fruitful homeland.
Add to this if Iran then Saudi Arabia go Nuclear, and see how complex the trouble becomes then.
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ULP UNKNOWN LUNATIC POSTER Registered User User ID: 27193 06-12-2012 09:51 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
Nuke on 12/21/12 ??????
I POST THE INFORMATION AND YOU CAN DEBATE IT
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 100767 06-12-2012 10:03 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
King_David Wrote:Luvapottamus Wrote:King_David Wrote:You people need to get a clue, how long has the Assad Family ruled Syria?
No elections, no democracy, no rule of the people. 13%( Shiite Twelvers ) of the Population over ruling 74%( Sunni's ). This situation is no different than Apartheid was in South Africa and you people a rooting for the oppressors.
Add to that the Assad's and Syrian Shiite's arm and train Hamas and other fighters that kill Israeli, Nato, US, Iraqi, and Afgani men women and children.
Where do you thing the explosives come from for road side bombs?
Who do you think trains the fighters who build these bombs?
Iran and Syria.
This is personal between General David Petraeus( CIA ) and the Assad's and you can bet you ass they are going down.
It was/is his men they were/are killing with these bombs.
You are rooting for the people who are killing US and NATO Troops and bystanders?
Russia and China maybe able to block action by the UN Security Council, but they can't stop NATO from taking action, if Russia puts those birds in the Air I say we Tomahawk their ass.
They have already proven that they will kill their own people to stay in power rather than have free and open elections that they know they would lose.
They are murdering scum tyrants, and those who side with them should be deported to Syria.
There is never a bad time to take out a Tyrant, and these tyrants are going down, God wills it.
I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man
Name one "humanitarian intervention" done since WWII that benefited the victims, I mean oppressed democrats.
I'm not pro-Assad, I'm anti:
![[Image: 9AD4_4FD7905F.jpg]](http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphic/images/2012/June/12/9AD4_4FD7905F.jpg)
The General Strike the Turkish(NATO-why? Not North Atlantic either )
stooges are advocating WORKS.
They should have done that if they wanted to.
Not this bullshit.
War is hell, you're just now figuring that out. What did D.C. look like after the War of 1812?
What did the US look like after the Revolutionary War?
Make no mistake about it, that is what is going on is Syria and all over the Middle East, for better or worse, the People are having Revolution, helped by the CIA and MI6 or whatever Britain has. They are finally having their day in the sun, now you people want to cu to short and side with Russia and China?
Like it or not the Muslim Brotherhood is a Power Broker in that part of the World, it is the Islamic world after all. They are a force, we can not cut them out, they will either kill the tyrants that rule them, or they will try and kill us, and we know they will stop at nothing to do it, because they have nothing to lose.
Life is cheap in that part of the World, that is what needs to change, and it will never change with ruling families like the Assad's who keep most of the people out of the loops of power and dirt poor. They spend all the money on the Security State to stay in Power and buy lavish toys, while the people do without.
Soon, 30 years, all the Oil will be gone from the Middle east, Israel will be alone, surrounded by poor Nations who's leader squandered Oil Riches and did not look after the future of their own peoples. The time for change is now, while there is still Oil money to build self sustaining National infrastructures, because if we do not start now it will be too late.
It takes 25 or 30 years to Nation build, we did not rebuild Japan, Germany, S.Korea overnight, but we did do it with great success. Most people would rather live these places than the US now.
If this is not done, these Arab Nations will be left in the desert with nothing while the families that ruled them jet-set away to Russia or China with the Wealth stolen from the Nation they ruled.
100's of Million's of people, maybe billions, surrounding Israel. Who are they going to blame?
The Jew's, the dirty rotten Jew's.
But it won't stop there, Europe is within reach. A massive ground invasion of mainland Europe of half starved peoples looking for someone to blame, and they will have come to the right place, because we have it with our power to stop this now.
With great power, comes great responsibility, ya got to be able to look down the road and see what is coming, or ya are going to get blind sided by history that keeps repeating itself.
This has all happened before, in it's own way.
A billion man army could reach the North Atlantic, it is in our long term strategic interest to make sure these people have a fruitful homeland.
Add to this if Iran then Saudi Arabia go Nuclear, and see how complex the trouble becomes then.
You didn't name 1.
No surprise, and you're deluded.
This isn't about democracy.
Neither was overthrowing Mossadeq.
And as far as Isreal goes, that whole situation was designed for this. By the British.
Just like this is.
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 102073 06-12-2012 10:09 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
The Syrian regime are a bunch of extremely violent mass murderers and child killers.
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 100767 06-12-2012 10:17 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
LoP Guest Wrote:The Syrian regime are a bunch of extremely violent mass murderers and child killers.
Why did we send them people to torture for us under W?
Why was Tony Blair making deals with Qadaffi a year before they sent Al Queda in to murder him?
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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USSR Registered User User ID: 101931 06-12-2012 10:35 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
Why all speak about Assad's victims? Why are silent about opposition victims? The opposition kills and cuts people....
Try to leave in the USA on a protest with the weapon and start to shoot..... there will be the same reaction..... The army of the USA will kill you...... why you consider in Syria should be differently?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBCuq2bIdIs
How the police with such protesting in the USA will arrive?But the USA and the Arab countries support protests and opposition for the interests..... incitement of war in their interests. On it they finance and deliver the opposition weapon, employ mercenaries.... but in Syria they are considered as terrorists.... it not opposition.
Tell at you group of people with machine guns on the street as will be called? Protestants, demonstrators, opposition..... them call terrorists and will kill.
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•REC 14877 User ID: 14877 06-12-2012 10:40 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
Someone will post a 20 year old clip from CNN next.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 95149 06-12-2012 10:40 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
Listen up dummys...
what we are witnessing here is the prelude to the engagement of the caliphate wars. This will be a very large and devastating event but it will mostly be isolated in the areas of the mideast. Millions of people will die, and bio /chem weapons will be used.
Only after this event happens, can the plans for WW3 be set in motion.
The good news ?
after the year 2044 , things calm down and the world will see peace and tranquility for the remining 2 billion population.
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USSR Registered User User ID: 101931 06-12-2012 10:45 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
•REC Wrote:Someone will post a 20 year old clip from CNN next.
You think that that changed since then? Protesting go with florets? I wanted to give to you an example..... that you would look back and looked at yourself and tried on opposition actions on the country....
Why you judge double standards..... In Syria the opposition can go and kill with the weapon on streets, thus you her supporter....... And the opposition can't go to the USA with machine guns? You too will be the supporter of these armed oppositionists in the USA?
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(This post was last modified: 06-12-2012 10:57 PM by USSR.)
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Luvapottamus Registered User User ID: 100767 06-12-2012 10:51 PM
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RE: Clinton says Russia sending attack helicopters to Syria
Russia Reportedly Preparing 2 Divisions, Spetsnaz Brigade for Deployment to Syria; Mini-Goebbels Ben Rhodes of Obama White House Runs Colossal Black Propaganda Op to Assist NATO Coup; Massacre of Alawites and Christians Looms; Cass Sunstein Destabilizes Vatican to Muzzle Protest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPVoUurRl1E
Who wants WWIII?
The British.
They set this up.
Sunni/Shia conflict? The British.
There is no such thing as sovereign debt. End the FED, bring back Greenbacks.
Wall Street Sales Tax http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
United Front Against Austerity
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