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Comet ISON, Great Comet of 1843, Great Comet of 1680.... Same?
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Comet ISON, Great Comet of 1843, Great Comet of 1680.... Same?
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In 1880, the NY Times ran an article about the great comet of 1843 and compared it to the great comet of 1680.

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http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-fre...5F448884F9

In 1883, this science journal said that the great comet of 1843 would return in 2013.

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http://books.google.com/books?id=Uz9BAAA...&q&f=false

Now, our modern day scientists are comparing the approaching comet ISON to that of the great comet of 1680.

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http://www.space.com/17762-newfound-come...012s1.html

I'm proposing that all three comets are the same and we are in for an amazing show.
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I'm biting my tongue.... but.... From Wikipedia:

"The first comet whose orbit had been found to take it extremely close to the Sun was the Great Comet of 1680. This comet was found to have passed just 200,000 km (0.0013 AU) above the sun's surface, equivalent to about half the distance between the Earth and the Moon.[3] It thus became the first known sungrazing comet. Its perihelion distance was just 1.3 solar radii.

Astronomers at the time, including Edmond Halley, speculated that this comet was a return of a bright comet seen close to the Sun in the sky in 1106.[3] 163 years later, the Great Comet of 1843 appeared and also passed extremely close to the Sun. Despite orbital calculations showing that it had a period of several centuries, some astronomers wondered if it was a return of the 1680 comet.[3] A bright comet seen in 1880 was found to be travelling on an almost identical orbit to that of 1843, as was the subsequent Great Comet of 1882. Some astronomers suggested that perhaps they were all one comet, whose orbital period was somehow being drastically shortened at each perihelion passage, perhaps by retardation by some dense material surrounding the Sun.[3]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreutz_Sungrazers
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With each pass around the sun, this:

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becomes this:

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Well, I just came in from stargazing and I saw three shooting stars. It was really cold for the beginning of August, about 58 degrees.

I wanted to know if anyone else knows... Are we going to pass through the tail of comet ISON this year?

If so, it should make the Perseid meteor shower look pale in comparison.

Anyone know?
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there was a mini iceage the time of the 1600's great comet

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Winter Steelheader  Wrote: (08-05-2013 07:03 AM)
there was a mini iceage the time of the 1600's great comet

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how old is that article/book from the second picture which says 170 years?

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Winter Steelheader  Wrote: (08-05-2013 07:16 AM)
how old is that article/book from the second picture which says 170 years?

1883.

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The comet was very prominent throughout early March, before fading away to almost below naked eye visibility by the beginning of April.[7] It was last detected on April 20. This comet apparently made a substantial impression on the public, inspiring in some a fear that judgement day was imminent.[6]

doomed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreutz_Sungrazers
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Hawkeye  Wrote: (08-05-2013 07:21 AM)
Winter Steelheader  Wrote: (08-05-2013 07:16 AM)
how old is that article/book from the second picture which says 170 years?

1883.

[Image: truwm8E.jpg]

well I'll be damned

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Historical Events for the year 1843:

Jun 1st - It snows in Buffalo & Rochester NY & Cleveland Ohio

Jul 2nd - An alligator falls from sky during a Charleston SC thunderstorm

Jul 12th - Mormon leader Joseph Smith say God OKs polygamy

Nov 13th - Mt Rainier in Washington State erupts

1842 and 1843, Eruptions of Mount St. Helens and Mount Rainier,
Mount Hood, and Mount Jefferson,


Mt Baker erupted 1843

Mauna Loa erupts in Hawaii 1843

Mt Etna Erupts November 17th,1843

Carribean earthquake so large it was felt in NYC in 1843 - Magnitude 8-8.5

1843 Wanganui earthquake occurred on 8 July 1843 - Magnitude 7

Marked Tree, Arkansas earthquake - Magnitude 6.3


Beginning of the Great Potato Famine in the US, spread to Europe and Ireland 1844-5

" It is now known that the same potato blight struck in the USA in 1843 and 1844 and in Canada in 1844. It is thought that the disease travelled to Europe on trade ships and spread to England and finally to Ireland, striking the south-east first."
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Anon
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Pi  Wrote: (08-05-2013 10:49 AM)
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Hawkeye  Wrote: (08-05-2013 06:57 AM)
Well, I just came in from stargazing and I saw three shooting stars. It was really cold for the beginning of August, about 58 degrees.

I wanted to know if anyone else knows... Are we going to pass through the tail of comet ISON this year?

If so, it should make the Perseid meteor shower look pale in comparison.

Anyone know?

We pass close to its orbit around jan 14 2014, so maybe. I'm giving it 50-50 as to it surviving perihelion and the whole thing being a non event.
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