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**11:11** · (This post was last modified: 07-06-2012 04:31 AM by 11:11.)

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obama-told-to...un-treaty/

Weird Nut Daily: the most reliable info source!

On Oct. 14, 2009, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton announced that the United States would support the arms trade treaty negotiation process, and would vote in favor of a General Assembly Resolution creating a treaty conference. In addition to setting a 2012 date for the conference, Resolution 64/48 also converted four future planned Open-Ended Working Group meetings into Preparatory Committee meetings.

Weapons Categories: Most states agree that all of the weapons covered by the categories used in the UN Register of Conventional Arms should fall under the scope of the treaty. These include tanks, armored combat vehicles, artillery, combat aircraft and helicopters, warships, and missile systems. Most states, including the United States, are also in agreement that small arms and light weapons should be included in the treaty.

http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/arms_trade_treaty

Yes, progressives, fascists, Marxists, globalists and corrupt government ALWAYS want to take away the right of self defense. Why? Because every genocide that's ever happened has been carried out governments. An armed population presents an obstacle to the total control desired by the sociopaths in power.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 89915 07-06-2012 04:35 AM

Disarm the rednecks and put them in the camps!!!

**11:11** · **11:11** Evil Silvertard User ID: 93852 07-06-2012 04:49 AM **Posts: 9,181**

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
xXOnyxXx Wrote:
barry and crew are gonna shove this up our ass's just like the socialist obamacare ..... [b]buckle up people they are coming for your weapons ...[/b]

Only those naive enough to register guns with the government, if ever.

Friend, if you don't fight when it's "turn in" time, you never will. The majority of weapons are 4473'd.

Bury yours while the confiscation is underway and we'll see if you ever dig them up. My money is you won't.

In addition to all of the legal guns owned and their owners who NO INTENTION of ever giving them up, do you actually believe that the inner city population, much of which considers blowing someone away as a normal means of conflict resolution, are going to turn in their weapons? I've seen in service cop cars with bullet holes in them and the people who put them there are not going to give them up. So, we have two elements who will not obey. The former would rather die than give up the right of self defense and the latter are hardened criminals who don't give a f*ck what anyone says - and their guns are not registered.

**11:11** · **11:11** Evil Silvertard User ID: 93852 07-06-2012 04:51 AM **Posts: 9,181**

hill hermit Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Ten Orders US Military & Veterans Will Not Obey

1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.
2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people
3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as "unlawful enemy combatants" or to subject them to military tribunal.
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a "state of emergency" on a state.
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to "keep the peace" or to "maintain control."
9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

Sorry to say but you are so very wrong.
Remember hurricane Katrina.
The US military did help to confiscate weapons from US. citizens.
So from your list 1,2,4 and 9 have already been done.
I think you will find the rest of your list will be proven wrong as well.

They took them from the law abiding city folk. They didn't get them from the hoodlum boojigs. Also, a unit of National Guard refused to disarm anybody.

**11:11** · **11:11** Evil Silvertard User ID: 93852 07-06-2012 04:58 AM **Posts: 9,181**

LoP Guest Wrote:

BJ Wrote:
Here is a quote from Abraham Linclon: "Our safety, our liberty, depends upon preserving the Constitution of the United States as our fathers made it inviolate. The people of the United States are the rightful masters of both congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

Alexander Hamilton in Federalist Paper No. 29 said that the armament in the hands of the citizens was to be up-to-date and equal to that of the Army, and that there should be "a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to [the military] in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow citizens."

http://www.light1998.com/SSN/Social_Secu...pendix%20M

Neither Lincoln nor Hamilton feared an armed populace, in fact welcomed it.

This is Obama's great miscalculation.....he believes in his deluded mind that the American people are ripe for a Marxist revolution to overthrow the US Constitution. Thay are not.....the Revolution, if it comes to that, will be to overthrow those who have perverted the Constitution.

This will be his downfall.

Well, to be fair, all Obots ARE ripe and have no regard for the constitution. f*ck, they've never read it and if they did they wouldn't understand it. So, there's about half the population that approve or simply do not care what their leaders do. Of course, the neocons have no regard for it, either, but their base is made up of fundy Christians who hate progressives and their agenda.

BJ lop guest User ID: 106664 07-06-2012 05:03 AM

A little history here about defenseless people:

Turkey established gun control in 1911. From 1915 to 1917:
1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

The Soviet Union established gun control in 1929. From 1929 to 1953:
about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952:
20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated by 1987 another 35,236,000 exterminations were carried out under the Communists.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945:
a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977:
one million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981:
100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979:
300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: More than 56 million people.

There was NO MERCY, just extermination.

**bonsaiguy**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Ten Orders US Military & Veterans Will Not Obey

1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.
2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people
3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as "unlawful enemy combatants" or to subject them to military tribunal.
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a "state of emergency" on a state.
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to "keep the peace" or to "maintain control."
9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

I agree, at least in part. The "Oathkeepers" and local law enforcement as well as some of our military may go along with this. Yet it probably wont be Our" military that comes a knockin on our doors. Remember when we hosted the Russian military on our soil and trained them to use "our" weapons?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 105209 07-06-2012 05:05 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

They can make up whatever rules they want, but the only way they are getting my weapons is from my cold dead fingers after a serious battle.

That's what they said in Britain, until the Government made it a class 1 felony to own a restricted firearm. Those brave brits couldn't surrender their guns fast enough

BJ lop guest User ID: 106664 07-06-2012 05:15 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
They can make up whatever rules they want, but the only way they are getting my weapons is from my cold dead fingers after a serious battle.

That's what they said in Britain, until the Government made it a class 1 felony to own a restricted firearm. Those brave brits couldn't surrender their guns fast enough

Same thing happened in Australia with the same results:

April, 2007

It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44
percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, so criminals still possess their guns!)

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

The same scenarios befell the English populace when gun contol was made law.

There is a thriving underground of smuggled guns in America that have gone to gangs and other criminals.

With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects', and subject to criminals.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 106584 07-06-2012 06:06 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

They can make up whatever rules they want, but the only way they are getting my weapons is from my cold dead fingers after a serious battle.

They can take every right an American has, but guns, and Americans are fine with it.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 68357 07-06-2012 06:16 AM

BJ Wrote:

A little history here about defenseless people:

Turkey established gun control in 1911. From 1915 to 1917:
1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

The Soviet Union established gun control in 1929. From 1929 to 1953:
about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952:
20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated by 1987 another 35,236,000 exterminations were carried out under the Communists.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945:
a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977:
one million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981:
100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979:
300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: More than 56 million people.

There was NO MERCY, just extermination.

**Old School Like Fat Crayons**

Nailer45 Wrote:

obammy and Hitlery are pushing the limits with the small arms treaty.

They will be arrested and charged with treason and sent to the gallows or drawn and quartered.

way too many gun owners will fight to the death before giving up their firearms to Government Gestapo Goons.

I think your underestimating something. Many firearm owners have families. And they'll want to fight , The will have fought if not for their family.

But I bet they will be given an ultimatum when it comes down to it .

" Men , look at your wives , look at your children. Do you really want to see them get hurt? Do you really want them to see YOU get hurt?

They need you . Lay down your arms and you will not be harmed!!! We're here for the guns not any of you !! "

Grown tough f*ckin bad ass guys will look at their wives and children and cry like a 10 year old girl whos bike just got stolen

It won't be their fault , they love their families and won't want to see them harmed. After all atleast in that moment they probably won't be harmed. Cause the gun getters will want others to see the previous men who gave up their guns didn't get hurt so they will be more inclined to give up theirs .

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 58515 07-06-2012 07:09 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

The Marxists love to take our temperature with these stories, if fact I can smell the NSA lurking all over this info to get a reaction.. Well here is a truly succinct warning from an American who has had enough. We will continue to work, raise our families, pay our debts, and arm ourselves. We will be strong and peaceful, until provoked. It is a great miscalculation to think you can buy off our military and police. They are our sons and daughters, you don't know us. Do not tread on us... Peace

LIKE your flag... but... the Military is now controlled by Free Mason sodomites.
Do you really think they'll send out a squad?
Or do you think they'll send out a predator?
Remember Al Alaqi last year?
It is now legal to arrest you or kill you... and Congress does not care.
The SCOTUS DOESN'T CARE.
And your neighbors don't care.

I suspect Joe Arpaio is NOT a sodomite Free Mason Sheriff... rare breed.

**xXOnyxXx**

**xXOnyxXx**

yea the only civilian guns left are going to be unregistered and the guns in the hands of criminals.