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Controlled Cavitation Heating Free Steam From Spinning Water
*~Juan Star~*
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Controlled Cavitation Heating Free Steam From Spinning Water
This technology uses a specially designed rotor and chamber to produce cavitation within a fluid column
The collapse of the bubbles produces heat which heats the water to steam within 30 seconds
All this from simply rotating the water...THINK ABOUT THAT..
STEAM...Boiling water...from simply spinning water...Never Heard of it? No Kidding...wonder why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw

http://www.hydrodynamics.com/

http://www.studio75.org.uk
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http://www.studio75.org.uk
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Very cool juan
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RE: Controlled Cavitation Heating Free Steam From Spinning Water
*~Juan Star~*  Wrote: (06-10-2011 11:04 AM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw

Intriguing.

But, of course, there's that old chestnut, the Law of Conservation of Energy.

So let's suppose that this machine truly is over 100% efficient and that it's generating more energy than the electricity used to drive it.

This then begs the question where is the extra energy coming from and what sort of energy it is.
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Hm.
Where does the proposed 70% excess energy come from I wonder.

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Terpentin  Wrote: (06-10-2011 11:42 AM)
Hm.
Where does the proposed 70% excess energy come from I wonder.

Scratchinghead

just by the premise of the technology i imagine its some kind of hydrothermal energy that creates the steam from hyper exciting the water molecules creating friction that creates heat to the temperature water vaporises making steam and using the steam for whatever beit steam engine or some kinda electro turbine. just a guess though
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RE: Controlled Cavitation Heating Free Steam From Spinning Water
Who me?  Wrote: (06-10-2011 11:48 AM)
Terpentin  Wrote: (06-10-2011 11:42 AM)
Hm.
Where does the proposed 70% excess energy come from I wonder.

Scratchinghead

just by the premise of the technology i imagine its some kind of hydrothermal energy that creates the steam from hyper exciting the water molecules creating friction that creates heat to the temperature water vaporises making steam and using the steam for whatever beit steam engine or some kinda electro turbine. just a guess though


But it's a good guess, though.

We've all been taught that potential energy only exists in sold matter, but what if it exists around us also.

What if, like you suggest, the drille holes in extract this potential energy from the air merely by hyper-exciting the water particles.

So what's happened to the friction induced from the extra drag on the turning cylinder, as that would reduce the efficiency, with more electricity needed to keep the machine operating?

That is to say the output would actually be greater were it not for drag.
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RE: Controlled Cavitation Heating Free Steam From Spinning Water
cognitive infiltrator  Wrote: (06-10-2011 11:56 AM)
Who me?  Wrote: (06-10-2011 11:48 AM)
Terpentin  Wrote: (06-10-2011 11:42 AM)
Hm.
Where does the proposed 70% excess energy come from I wonder.

Scratchinghead

just by the premise of the technology i imagine its some kind of hydrothermal energy that creates the steam from hyper exciting the water molecules creating friction that creates heat to the temperature water vaporises making steam and using the steam for whatever beit steam engine or some kinda electro turbine. just a guess though


But it's a good guess, though.

We've all been taught that potential energy only exists in sold matter, but what if it exists around us also.

What if, like you suggest, the drille holes in extract this potential energy from the air merely by hyper-exciting the water particles.

So what's happened to the friction induced from the extra drag on the turning cylinder, as that would reduce the efficiency, with more electricity needed to keep the machine operating?

That is to say the output would actually be greater were it not for drag.
welllllll im sure if the steam was pressurized enough using tapered steam piping to say a steam powered turbine . i imagine if you had the pressure high enough you could really turn the turbine over a quite a few rpms even run the turbine lines into the power for the cavitation motor to negate the need for external power once the turbines producing electricity essentially making it self sustaing once the initial startup procedure has completed and i bet youd still have left over power from the turbine .... just maybe

again this is all purely speculative
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RE: Controlled Cavitation Heating Free Steam From Spinning Water
Who me?  Wrote: (06-10-2011 11:48 AM)
Terpentin  Wrote: (06-10-2011 11:42 AM)
Hm.
Where does the proposed 70% excess energy come from I wonder.

Scratchinghead

just by the premise of the technology i imagine its some kind of hydrothermal energy that creates the steam from hyper exciting the water molecules creating friction that creates heat to the temperature water vaporises making steam and using the steam for whatever beit steam engine or some kinda electro turbine. just a guess though

Thats what I thought, but this effect can only account for the amount of kinetic energy put into the water via the motor, which has an efficiency of about n=0,8.
They said they get 70% more thermic energy out than they put into the motor via electricity.
That would equal a perpetuum mobile of the first order, which is supposedly impossible.
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RE: Controlled Cavitation Heating Free Steam From Spinning Water
i mean that is basically how geothermal energy would be produced for self sustaining power source that has been proposed the only difference instead of cavitation motor to produce the steam youd be using geothermal heat from the earths crust to heat a water source to produce steam for the turbine
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RE: Controlled Cavitation Heating Free Steam From Spinning Water
Terpentin  Wrote: (06-10-2011 11:42 AM)
Hm.
Where does the proposed 70% excess energy come from I wonder.

Scratchinghead

Supposedly, every cubic centimetre of the "vacuum" contains enough energy to boil all the oceans of the world, many times over.

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RE: Controlled Cavitation Heating Free Steam From Spinning Water
Terpentin  Wrote: (06-10-2011 12:03 PM)
Who me?  Wrote: (06-10-2011 11:48 AM)
Terpentin  Wrote: (06-10-2011 11:42 AM)
Hm.
Where does the proposed 70% excess energy come from I wonder.

Scratchinghead

just by the premise of the technology i imagine its some kind of hydrothermal energy that creates the steam from hyper exciting the water molecules creating friction that creates heat to the temperature water vaporises making steam and using the steam for whatever beit steam engine or some kinda electro turbine. just a guess though

Thats what I thought, but this effect can only account for the amount of kinetic energy put into the water via the motor, which has an efficiency of about n=0,8.
They said they get 70% more thermic energy out than they put into the motor via electricity.
That would equal a perpetuum mobile of the first order, which is supposedly impossible.

im not so sure about that its not like the turbine RPms will be limited to the rpms of the electrical motor the turbine would depend on how much pressure there was in the steam lines and as long as the cavitational motor made enough steam you could pressurise the whole steam system and use tapered piping to create the pressure... kinda like a steam pot you make a pot roast in only with a line hooked up to it you can get those damn things whistling without much steam its all about the pressure
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RE: Controlled Cavitation Heating Free Steam From Spinning Water
I think we have some of Ponds of Fleishman...Cold Fusion.
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RE: Controlled Cavitation Heating Free Steam From Spinning Water
you guys make up shit as you go

how about input and output facts

such as the motor uses 4 amps at 120 volts

and

it produces 16 lbs of saturated steam at 5 psi

then we could do an energy balance equation and figure it out

other wise its just a bunch of pictures and supposition

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RE: Controlled Cavitation Heating Free Steam From Spinning Water
*~Juan Star~*  Wrote: (06-10-2011 11:04 AM)
This technology uses a specially designed rotor and chamber to produce cavitation within a fluid column
The collapse of the bubbles produces heat which heats the water to steam within 30 seconds
All this from simply rotating the water...THINK ABOUT THAT..
STEAM...Boiling water...from simply spinning water...Never Heard of it? No Kidding...wonder why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh_-DUKQ4Uw

http://www.hydrodynamics.com/

Actually, I have heard of these technologies and worked with some of the guys on the cutting edge who were trying to get it out into the public. Not as easy as it should be for something with such potential to solve dire problems. Of course the gov't will be happy to pay for it to be developed for warfare purposes, but if you don't want to do that your options get real limited real fast.

Thanks for posting the vid, you never know when this stuff is going to hit the tipping point, but something's gonna have to give soon.

Once you see what reality really is, you just have to laugh!
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