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Covert Messiah
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The Velocity of Now Episode 11 (Hour 2) with Thomas Sheridan, Joseph Atwill and Ryan Gilmore

Independent scholar Joseph Atwill, author of "Caesar's Messiah: the Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus" spent his youth in a Jesuit military academy where most of his school days were spent studying Greek, Latin, and the Bible. Later in life he became an avid chess player with more than 100 victories over Grandmasters and International Masters. It was this background of Biblical knowledge and analytical skill that allowed him to recognise the New Testament as puzzle literature, which when solved reveals that the Flavian Dynasty in Rome (69-96 AD) proudly confessed to creating Christianity. His methods of literary analysis has taken Biblical scholarship in a whole new direction.

Ryan Gilmore, who is holding a conference this October that will introduce Joe's theories to the UK public, is a Canadian Graphic Designer who lives and works in London. His attraction to neglected and suppressed truths has led him to study the fringes of many topics, one being the origins of Christianity.

Both Joe and Ryan view Christianity, despite having many appealing and positive attributes, as ultimately a damaging form of mind control that stunts moral and intellectual growth. The spell it has cast on Western culture continues to make people very susceptible to government propaganda and the psychopathic control grid.

Join Joe and Ryan in London on the 19th October 2013 at Conway Hall for a one-day symposium that will explore Christianity as a case study in government mind control. Understanding the ancient techniques of the Caesars gives insight into the modern techniques used by public relations firms today, weaponising the public imagination to create unending stealth class war. Joe and Ryan will be joined on the 19th of October by Kenneth Humphreys, author of "Jesus Never Existed". Go to covertmessiah.com for more details.



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I don't buy this at all. Why were the romans running around hunting Christians and making sport out of it(Lion food). This would be more believable if they wrote a book about how they hijacked the whole message to serve themselves and enslave others. Here is a question was the first line of kings in France Roman? Did the roman empire ever really end?

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bingaling  Wrote: (09-24-2013 09:16 AM)
I don't buy this at all. Why were the romans running around hunting Christians and making sport out of it(Lion food). This would be more believable if they wrote a book about how they hijacked the whole message to serve themselves and enslave others. Here is a question was the first line of kings in France Roman? Did the roman empire ever really end?

They were not Christians, they were pagans.

I have been and still am a seeker, but I have ceased to question stars and books. I have begun to listen to the teachings my blood whispers to me: Hermann Hesse

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Oh Bother :P  Wrote: (09-24-2013 09:17 AM)
bingaling  Wrote: (09-24-2013 09:16 AM)
I don't buy this at all. Why were the romans running around hunting Christians and making sport out of it(Lion food). This would be more believable if they wrote a book about how they hijacked the whole message to serve themselves and enslave others. Here is a question was the first line of kings in France Roman? Did the roman empire ever really end?

They were not Christians, they were pagans.

The apostles were pagans ?

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bingaling  Wrote: (09-24-2013 09:26 AM)
Oh Bother :P  Wrote: (09-24-2013 09:17 AM)
They were not Christians, they were pagans.

The apostles were pagans ?

I think maybe you are confusing timelines . The Roman's religion was Pagan .

This is from wiki -

The developments of Late Antiquity in the religious thought in the far-flung Roman Empire needs to be addressed separately, as this is the context in which Early Christianity itself developed as one of several monotheistic cults, and it was in this period that the concept of "pagan" developed in the first place. Christianity as it emerged from Second Temple Judaism (or Hellenistic Judaism) stood in competition with other religions advocating "pagan monotheism", including Neoplatonism, Mithraism, Gnosticism, Manichaeanism, and the cult of Dionysus.[34]

In my opinion , after the romans tried to crush the rebellion of christianity ,they eventually saw they couldn't ,so they subverted it into something they could use . Once they consolidated the power in a "universal" church they went after the competition left over .Cathars -Gnostics -etc. The aristocrats /kings were supposedly chosen by God to rule over people. The church kept it in line .

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Also the Caesar himself was regarded as a living God once in power I believe.

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Supreme God Lord Absurdious  Wrote: (09-24-2013 06:35 AM)
The Velocity of Now Episode 11 (Hour 2) with Thomas Sheridan, Joseph Atwill and Ryan Gilmore

Independent scholar Joseph Atwill, author of "Caesar's Messiah: the Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus" spent his youth in a Jesuit military academy where most of his school days were spent studying Greek, Latin, and the Bible. Later in life he became an avid chess player with more than 100 victories over Grandmasters and International Masters. It was this background of Biblical knowledge and analytical skill that allowed him to recognise the New Testament as puzzle literature, which when solved reveals that the Flavian Dynasty in Rome (69-96 AD) proudly confessed to creating Christianity. His methods of literary analysis has taken Biblical scholarship in a whole new direction.

Ryan Gilmore, who is holding a conference this October that will introduce Joe's theories to the UK public, is a Canadian Graphic Designer who lives and works in London. His attraction to neglected and suppressed truths has led him to study the fringes of many topics, one being the origins of Christianity.

Both Joe and Ryan view Christianity, despite having many appealing and positive attributes, as ultimately a damaging form of mind control that stunts moral and intellectual growth. The spell it has cast on Western culture continues to make people very susceptible to government propaganda and the psychopathic control grid.

Join Joe and Ryan in London on the 19th October 2013 at Conway Hall for a one-day symposium that will explore Christianity as a case study in government mind control. Understanding the ancient techniques of the Caesars gives insight into the modern techniques used by public relations firms today, weaponising the public imagination to create unending stealth class war. Joe and Ryan will be joined on the 19th of October by Kenneth Humphreys, author of "Jesus Never Existed". Go to covertmessiah.com for more details.




thank you absurdious - that was a Normal OP.


the people investigating this though,
make a crucial thought twist:

they are like investigating male's seks drive,
concluding it is Violent, in nature,
[ which is true btw - even they may thínk they 'love']

and mention many reasons as why that is so

but forgétting, that 'making love' was, originally, not MENT to be so.

Same here;
to try discredit the real thing,
by pointing at what 'humans distórted it into ',
is but chasing the wrong goose.
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The information is very interesting but it still has the real flaw of not being able to impress hot chicks with it at parties. Best go with some other bling, is my advice.
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Alex  Wrote: (09-24-2013 11:05 AM)
The information is very interesting but it still has the real flaw of not being able to impress hot chicks with it at parties. Best go with some other bling, is my advice.

Jptdknpa

Jesus said, 'Your love was so magnanimous, they were afraid of it'.
8th Day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Z7dyQ0ogY
I WILL BE THERE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IRIP-hSfJ0
The Children Sing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUUqwx_Y0Wc
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bingaling  Wrote: (09-24-2013 09:26 AM)
Oh Bother :P  Wrote: (09-24-2013 09:17 AM)
They were not Christians, they were pagans.

The apostles were pagans ?

"Jesus" did not start a religion... there was NO CHRISTIANITY when he walked the earth and his "apostles" where were his team of friends were also ignorant and had a great deal of trouble understanding his teachings and bastardized them after he left the area after he survived the Crucifixion.

Please people clear your MINDS and reason. "Jesus" is returned, again, both of them that shared for the body. (stop with the impossible belief that somebody named god made his own body and impregnated himself into Mary, it don't work that way).....


This is the story you believe in, condensed, can you not see thru it? We are 4d, it is the time of transition where human must learn to reason independently and stop the following... the earth changes are designed for that purpose...to challenge your MIND.

well SHIT Cosmah if you see this,,, since the images were moved here all those linkies for your images I saved don't work and I hadn't placed them yet on my computer, now I have to do them all again....

Stop the religious garbage and date threads. Your world is f**ked UP and its time to UNFUCK it. And it can only be unfucked by realizing YOU ARE GOD MANIFEST
http://www.abundanthope.net/talkitup/forum.php
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