They are already arming themselves with riot gear better than shit in Iraq right now, Bullets out the asshole, body armor protection of sorts, and way more goodies in black budgets that we don't know about.

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assbeef  Wrote:

china is already f*cked.
we are the major customers-with out us-they aint shit.

they have all our manufacturing buddy, incase you missed it, the dictatorship doesn't need $$$$$ all they have done is destroy the west via its own greed.

and nobody to buy this manufactured stuff.
we made china.

-Vod-  Wrote:

Because most people seem to think people will unite themself against government. That's very naive, with an economic collapse, it will be people vs people.
And with so many guns, it will be hell on earth.

Well, Vod, history has shown what happens to an unarmed people:

Whether you agree or not, it's an interesting lesson in history.

Something to think about... Lest we forget...

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, dissidents and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979,
300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: millions and millions.

It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44
percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, so criminals still possess their guns!)

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

The same scenarios befell the English populace when gun contol was made law.

There is a thriving underground of smuggled guns in America that have gone to gangs and other criminals.

With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects', and subject to criminals.

Grendelmort  Wrote:

There are 200 million (200,000,000) armed Americans in this country - so let's say that only 1% decided to stand up and fight - that's 2 million (2,000,000) shooting which is abut the size of our total military.
And a military will not engage in a 1 on 1 fight !

Dont forget many of these citiznes are US military and know asymmetric warfare works against our military.

These are the tactics used by the "insurgents" in Iraq/Afghanistan.

We can easily defeat our own military using asymmetric warefare.

Arch Phoenix  Wrote:

Holy crap

2 million untrained gunowners,without supplylines, vital infrastructures like waterworks and powerplants and no clue what they do VS the most powerfull military.

the only thing the military has to do is to bunker down, takeover ports trains and power plants and starve the dissidants till they give up ot their each other apart, what will most likely happen.

Divide and conquer,its incredibly easy in America,cause everyone will blame either the muslims, the blacks, the mexicans, all other immigrants, democrats republicans etc.

if you thoink 2 million random people will unite you are dillusional.

Its exactly like Omega said.
If something erupts, go to rural areas,get their trust and be a part of the rural community which will stick together, while the suburbs and megacities will burn down.

Not 2 million.
180 million, with stores, ammo, skills and nothing to lose.

I know for fact they are preparing for Martial Law to take place in America. So if they are preparing for Martial law than they are preparing for a revolution to take place.They are already caught training non-domestic troops on American soil for such things like Civil War and training American troops for the same thing too.

They are training the military for domestic riots. But wait they are training the 67th Military Police Company for Riot control... Now the United States military police are prohibited from enacting state police powers and domestic peace officer powers under the Posse Comitatus Act, a federal law passed in 1878. MPs may enforce certain limited powers, such as traffic stops, on access roads and other federal property not necessarily within the boundaries of their military base or installation. The only way MPs are allowed to enforce law and order outside of the military realm as stated above is when martial law is in effect.
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Proof-Th...In-America

America even has signed a treaty with Canada that will allow each countries troops to travel into America/Canada back and forth. But they keep that information on the downlow and everyone is very tight lipped about it.
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story....9d&k=14984

They are already arming themselves with riot gear better than shit in Iraq right now, Bullets out the asshole, body armor protection of sorts, and way more goodies in black budgets that we don't know about.

So I believe a revolution is in the works as we speak you all can see the proof all over the country in America on the web. By all sorts of protests taking place in America because people are starting to educate themselves with tons of information on knowledge about with what is going on in America.

That is also why the government is trying to pass all these Nazi-Style Internet Control laws like CISPA and its Mommy/Daddy law which was PIPA/SOPA which both have been already thrown out already by congress.

In a riveting interview on TruNews Radio, Wednesday, private investigator Doug Hagmann said high-level, reliable sources told him the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is preparing for “massive civil war” in America.

“Folks, we’re getting ready for one massive economic collapse,” Hagmann told TruNews host Rick Wiles. Sign-up for my 100% FREE Alerts

“We have problems . . . The federal government is preparing for civil uprising,” he added, “so every time you hear about troop movements, every time you hear about movements of military equipment, the militarization of the police, the buying of the ammunition, all of this is . . . they (DHS) are preparing for a massive uprising.”



http://www.beaconequity.com/we-are-prepa...012-05-03/

Grendelmort  Wrote:

There are 200 million (200,000,000) armed Americans in this country - so let's say that only 1% decided to stand up and fight - that's 2 million (2,000,000) shooting which is abut the size of our total military.
And a military will not engage in a 1 on 1 fight !

Dont forget many of these citiznes are US military and know asymmetric warfare works against our military.

These are the tactics used by the "insurgents" in Iraq/Afghanistan.

We can easily defeat our own military using asymmetric warefare.

Janus  Wrote:

Arch Phoenix  Wrote:

Holy crap

2 million untrained gunowners,without supplylines, vital infrastructures like waterworks and powerplants and no clue what they do VS the most powerfull military.

the only thing the military has to do is to bunker down, takeover ports trains and power plants and starve the dissidants till they give up ot their each other apart, what will most likely happen.

Divide and conquer,its incredibly easy in America,cause everyone will blame either the muslims, the blacks, the mexicans, all other immigrants, democrats republicans etc.

if you thoink 2 million random people will unite you are dillusional.

Its exactly like Omega said.
If something erupts, go to rural areas,get their trust and be a part of the rural community which will stick together, while the suburbs and megacities will burn down.

Not 2 million.
180 million, with stores, ammo, skills and nothing to lose.

Realistically best bet is around 10-20% will actually respond.

look at it as the birth of grassroots, local government, the death of big bureaucracy, rent freezes and reductions, the end of most taxation, the end of expensive wars, and the beginning of economic innovation.

maybe i am too optimistic. well, good folks can find each other, stick together in mass, and put their adult thinking caps on, or we can all descend into chaos.

i think the good folks will prevail.

then again we might just be leaving.