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DHS informant says get ready for civil war
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Bagatell user Variable User ID: 9614 05-05-2012 04:00 PM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
Here time turns into space.
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Karu Registered User User ID: 15554 05-05-2012 04:38 PM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
Kentucky Fried Genocide Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Omega Wrote:Realistically best bet is around 10-20% will actually respond.
 
well, 10%-20% of 180 million is 18 million - 36 million
frankly, except for a few skirmishes, i think that folks will just stick with their neighbors, homies, and families and will find ways to survive. the feds and maybe even state government may just end up be ignored to the point that they don't exist anymore. ignored to the point that there are no more taxes to speak of.
can't get blood out of turnip, as my dad used to say.
people will go in mass to get moratoriums on property taxes. people will get the city to donate land for community gardens. people will get the city to put in community wells where you can go get some water. etc., etc., etc. they will make them ease up on restrictions so that folks can have chickens in the backyard. people will do whatever people have to do to survive and to help their loved ones survive.
if it gets real bad, people will get together in mass and push the city and county governments to tell the state and federal government to take a hike.
^^^^^this needs to happen. *^^^
I hope it comes soon.
Isn't that the time the feds would call in the UN to enforce their will on the people?
If society fell apart, we - the people would build a new one. Most people are good at their core, and when we see things that are wrong we work to fix them together. Make friends with your neighbors, get involved with your community - because we will rebuild our lives, our communities, from horrible circumstances we always will.
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ASX:XAO Registered User User ID: 94664 05-05-2012 05:32 PM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
is a link to the audio clip of the DHS informant that i/others can listen to???
youtube channel: channelASX
http://www.youtube.com/channelASX
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 63652 05-05-2012 06:10 PM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
Crazycanuck Wrote:Staticsoul Wrote:Coupled with the ever growing fear of the end of the world
The closer we approach the end of this year
Anxiety and fear are going to skyrocket
Mixed in with the continued race bait
And a horrible economic downturn
It will not be a civil war
It will just be chaos
I think you're wrong. Both about civil war and "chaos" (it depends on your definition). I think this is shaping up to be a GREAT year. We just focus on the bad because (a) we're on LOP (b) we are fed it like free beer from every orifice of the MSM, and © we are mostly all going about our daily lives running on the treadmill so that we have a place to put all the ton of stuff we don't really need.
Having said that, I'm actually starting to be highly amused by it all. So many are waking up so fast, it reminds me of the phrase "Imposition of Order = Escalation of Chaos" - a supremely intelligent call IMHO. The two (ha, ha, duality again) are married as is portrayed in the yin/yang symbol. For each tightening of the screws, the rebelliousness grows just that much more. Action --> Reaction
Once you step out of the game, even just mentally without going anywhere, you begin to see The Show. Frankly, I'm fascinated with its machinations.
You sell people too short. I know many very very intelligent folk besides the lovely people of LOP and everyone is just waiting and watching. I think you might be in for a surprise how this all turns out, truly.
   
AGREED!
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iceni6 Registered User User ID: 94747 05-05-2012 06:36 PM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
i think people are waking up, too. what is sad is it took 50-60 years. most of the stuff that is being complained about or exposed on the net was all the stuff the hippies and other critical thinkers were complaining about back in the 60s. don't diss the hippies -- that whole phenomenon was a big threat to the establishment so the powers that be infiltrated to control the direction and focus of the movement. they killed it basically and left the impression that the hippies were only about free love and drugs. bull. the hippies wanted to go back to freedom, The Constitution, stop illegal wars, get rid of taxes, get corporations out of government, fix the crooked election process, free our property, money, bodies, and minds, etc., etc., etc. all the same stuff people are pissed off about now.
i have friends who occasionally tell me, "ya know all that stuff you have been bitching about for the last 40 years, and i thought you were crazy when you told me about it? i have been doing some research, and it is true. i should have listened."
the more they push us, the more they oppress us, the more they steal, the more they abuse and kill . . . well, they are just creating their own undoing. they are the ones creating any uprising. people will reach a point that they just will not take it anymore.
it may have to get pretty bad before that point, but it will come (provided the earth doesn't do us in first).
i still have a little faith in the American people left.
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Red Auroras Lower Freq's on a Higher Plane User ID: 15012 05-05-2012 06:36 PM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
Crazycanuck Wrote:Staticsoul Wrote:Coupled with the ever growing fear of the end of the world
The closer we approach the end of this year
Anxiety and fear are going to skyrocket
Mixed in with the continued race bait
And a horrible economic downturn
It will not be a civil war
It will just be chaos
I think you're wrong. Both about civil war and "chaos" (it depends on your definition). I think this is shaping up to be a GREAT year. We just focus on the bad because (a) we're on LOP (b) we are fed it like free beer from every orifice of the MSM, and © we are mostly all going about our daily lives running on the treadmill so that we have a place to put all the ton of stuff we don't really need.
Having said that, I'm actually starting to be highly amused by it all. So many are waking up so fast, it reminds me of the phrase "Imposition of Order = Escalation of Chaos" - a supremely intelligent call IMHO. The two (ha, ha, duality again) are married as is portrayed in the yin/yang symbol. For each tightening of the screws, the rebelliousness grows just that much more. Action --> Reaction
Once you step out of the game, even just mentally without going anywhere, you begin to see The Show. Frankly, I'm fascinated with its machinations.
You sell people too short. I know many very very intelligent folk besides the lovely people of LOP and everyone is just waiting and watching. I think you might be in for a surprise how this all turns out, truly.
   
I believe you're both on the right track. Without intentionally speaking for everyone here, I suspect most of us realize it would be best to be prepared for just about anything.
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Stormson Registered User User ID: 94752 05-05-2012 07:23 PM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
Grendelmort Wrote:There are 200 million (200,000,000) armed Americans in this country - so let's say that only 1% decided to stand up and fight - that's 2 million (2,000,000) shooting which is abut the size of our total military.
And a military will not engage in a 1 on 1 fight !
It wont be anything LIKE 1on1. Those 2mil will be firing everything between single shot .22 rifles and 12G shotguns, handed down for generations, up to AR-15's, with a very small number of class3 holders with SAW like weapons (M-60's etc) here and there, and even fewer heavy machine-guns (.50 Ma Deuce etc). They will be doing this with whatever ammo and spare parts that they have on hand or can fabricate in the field. This hold true for food, water and all other necessary provisions as well.
The military on the hand will be fighting with a virtually unlimited supply of small arms, ammunition, A-10 Warthogs, Choppers, M1-A1 Abrams Tanks, APC's, MRLS's, etc....They will be warm, dry and well fed. They will have excellent communications and overwhelming numbers to call upon in any given situation. They will be well trained and well organized. They will rest when needed and have access to proper medical care.
It wouldnt be a fair fight if all 200 million armed Americans stood up. The simple fact is "they" have taken OUR money to build our own prison with, and to hire, train and equip our own executioners.
Make NO mistake.... They WANT this. They WANT to see who loves freedom and who will stand up for it... So they can kill or imprison us all.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 1725 05-05-2012 08:37 PM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
Stormson Wrote:Grendelmort Wrote:There are 200 million (200,000,000) armed Americans in this country - so let's say that only 1% decided to stand up and fight - that's 2 million (2,000,000) shooting which is abut the size of our total military.
And a military will not engage in a 1 on 1 fight !
It wont be anything LIKE 1on1. Those 2mil will be firing everything between single shot .22 rifles and 12G shotguns, handed down for generations, up to AR-15's, with a very small number of class3 holders with SAW like weapons (M-60's etc) here and there, and even fewer heavy machine-guns (.50 Ma Deuce etc). They will be doing this with whatever ammo and spare parts that they have on hand or can fabricate in the field. This hold true for food, water and all other necessary provisions as well.
The military on the hand will be fighting with a virtually unlimited supply of small arms, ammunition, A-10 Warthogs, Choppers, M1-A1 Abrams Tanks, APC's, MRLS's, etc....They will be warm, dry and well fed. They will have excellent communications and overwhelming numbers to call upon in any given situation. They will be well trained and well organized. They will rest when needed and have access to proper medical care.
It wouldnt be a fair fight if all 200 million armed Americans stood up. The simple fact is "they" have taken OUR money to build our own prison with, and to hire, train and equip our own executioners.
Make NO mistake.... They WANT this. They WANT to see who loves freedom and who will stand up for it... So they can kill or imprison us all.
Thats what the British thought too.
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Stormson Registered User User ID: 94752 05-05-2012 09:14 PM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
LoP Guest Wrote:Stormson Wrote:Grendelmort Wrote:There are 200 million (200,000,000) armed Americans in this country - so let's say that only 1% decided to stand up and fight - that's 2 million (2,000,000) shooting which is abut the size of our total military.
And a military will not engage in a 1 on 1 fight !
It wont be anything LIKE 1on1. Those 2mil will be firing everything between single shot .22 rifles and 12G shotguns, handed down for generations, up to AR-15's, with a very small number of class3 holders with SAW like weapons (M-60's etc) here and there, and even fewer heavy machine-guns (.50 Ma Deuce etc). They will be doing this with whatever ammo and spare parts that they have on hand or can fabricate in the field. This hold true for food, water and all other necessary provisions as well.
The military on the hand will be fighting with a virtually unlimited supply of small arms, ammunition, A-10 Warthogs, Choppers, M1-A1 Abrams Tanks, APC's, MRLS's, etc....They will be warm, dry and well fed. They will have excellent communications and overwhelming numbers to call upon in any given situation. They will be well trained and well organized. They will rest when needed and have access to proper medical care.
It wouldnt be a fair fight if all 200 million armed Americans stood up. The simple fact is "they" have taken OUR money to build our own prison with, and to hire, train and equip our own executioners.
Make NO mistake.... They WANT this. They WANT to see who loves freedom and who will stand up for it... So they can kill or imprison us all.
Thats what the British thought too.
The British Empire never had real time satellite imaging on the battlefield... Not cluster bombs, smart munitions, MRE's or 1\10 of the real time medical resources that we have today... it is a different world from then. A different world then Vietnam and a different world from the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan... Todays American military is the greatest fighting force that world has ever known. with the highest degree of intel and resources. Not only that, but most are under the misguided impression that they will not "go the distance". This is patently untrue. The owners of this nation will not HESITATE to level it completely if needs be.. remember that they own the REST of the world as well.
We the People are being BAITED into this fight... If we are so sure to win, then ask yourself WHY they would goad us into defeating them in such a way??? You think they are stupid? They have infiltrated, bought, stolen or seized EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE... They own the WHOLE DAMN WORLD. How stupid could they really be?
These people dont do ANYTHING half assed. They have looked at EVERY contingency, over and over again. If they are egging us on in such a way, they have a DAMN good reason to do so.
This is a total set up. A sting operation on a grand scale. Nothing else.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 94537 05-05-2012 09:36 PM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
Stormson Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Stormson Wrote:It wont be anything LIKE 1on1. Those 2mil will be firing everything between single shot .22 rifles and 12G shotguns, handed down for generations, up to AR-15's, with a very small number of class3 holders with SAW like weapons (M-60's etc) here and there, and even fewer heavy machine-guns (.50 Ma Deuce etc). They will be doing this with whatever ammo and spare parts that they have on hand or can fabricate in the field. This hold true for food, water and all other necessary provisions as well.
The military on the hand will be fighting with a virtually unlimited supply of small arms, ammunition, A-10 Warthogs, Choppers, M1-A1 Abrams Tanks, APC's, MRLS's, etc....They will be warm, dry and well fed. They will have excellent communications and overwhelming numbers to call upon in any given situation. They will be well trained and well organized. They will rest when needed and have access to proper medical care.
It wouldnt be a fair fight if all 200 million armed Americans stood up. The simple fact is "they" have taken OUR money to build our own prison with, and to hire, train and equip our own executioners.
Make NO mistake.... They WANT this. They WANT to see who loves freedom and who will stand up for it... So they can kill or imprison us all.
Thats what the British thought too.
The British Empire never had real time satellite imaging on the battlefield... Not cluster bombs, smart munitions, MRE's or 1\10 of the real time medical resources that we have today... it is a different world from then. A different world then Vietnam and a different world from the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan... Todays American military is the greatest fighting force that world has ever known. with the highest degree of intel and resources. Not only that, but most are under the misguided impression that they will not "go the distance". This is patently untrue. The owners of this nation will not HESITATE to level it completely if needs be.. remember that they own the REST of the world as well.
We the People are being BAITED into this fight... If we are so sure to win, then ask yourself WHY they would goad us into defeating them in such a way??? You think they are stupid? They have infiltrated, bought, stolen or seized EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE... They own the WHOLE DAMN WORLD. How stupid could they really be?
These people dont do ANYTHING half assed. They have looked at EVERY contingency, over and over again. If they are egging us on in such a way, they have a DAMN good reason to do so.
This is a total set up. A sting operation on a grand scale. Nothing else.
How long has the Taliban had the US tied up in AFG?
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 68357 05-06-2012 12:18 AM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
LoP Guest Wrote:Stormson Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Thats what the British thought too.
The British Empire never had real time satellite imaging on the battlefield... Not cluster bombs, smart munitions, MRE's or 1\10 of the real time medical resources that we have today... it is a different world from then. A different world then Vietnam and a different world from the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan... Todays American military is the greatest fighting force that world has ever known. with the highest degree of intel and resources. Not only that, but most are under the misguided impression that they will not "go the distance". This is patently untrue. The owners of this nation will not HESITATE to level it completely if needs be.. remember that they own the REST of the world as well.
We the People are being BAITED into this fight... If we are so sure to win, then ask yourself WHY they would goad us into defeating them in such a way??? You think they are stupid? They have infiltrated, bought, stolen or seized EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE... They own the WHOLE DAMN WORLD. How stupid could they really be?
These people dont do ANYTHING half assed. They have looked at EVERY contingency, over and over again. If they are egging us on in such a way, they have a DAMN good reason to do so.
This is a total set up. A sting operation on a grand scale. Nothing else.
How long has the Taliban had the US tied up in AFG?
Stormson, you're either a really poor shill or a really poor student of history.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 94537 05-06-2012 12:31 AM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
LoP Guest Wrote:LoP Guest Wrote:Stormson Wrote:The British Empire never had real time satellite imaging on the battlefield... Not cluster bombs, smart munitions, MRE's or 1\10 of the real time medical resources that we have today... it is a different world from then. A different world then Vietnam and a different world from the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan... Todays American military is the greatest fighting force that world has ever known. with the highest degree of intel and resources. Not only that, but most are under the misguided impression that they will not "go the distance". This is patently untrue. The owners of this nation will not HESITATE to level it completely if needs be.. remember that they own the REST of the world as well.
We the People are being BAITED into this fight... If we are so sure to win, then ask yourself WHY they would goad us into defeating them in such a way??? You think they are stupid? They have infiltrated, bought, stolen or seized EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE... They own the WHOLE DAMN WORLD. How stupid could they really be?
These people dont do ANYTHING half assed. They have looked at EVERY contingency, over and over again. If they are egging us on in such a way, they have a DAMN good reason to do so.
This is a total set up. A sting operation on a grand scale. Nothing else.
How long has the Taliban had the US tied up in AFG?
Stormson, you're either a really poor shill or a really poor student of history.
And the question still remains. How can a superior force that outnumbers the enemy 12-1 still be bogged down in a conflict 11 years on and counting?
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iceni6 Registered User User ID: 94801 05-06-2012 01:04 AM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
180 million gun owners. how many of those own 10 guns or 20 guns?
i would think bullets, food, and water might be more important than guns.
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LoP Guest lop guest User ID: 94537 05-06-2012 01:16 AM
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RE: DHS informant says get ready for civil war
"The ratio of friendly to enemy forces would be a crucial aspect only if you could actually get at the enemy. But with an enemy that doesn't wear uniforms and hides among the population, that's very hard to do," said retired Army Col. Peter Mansoor, who helped oversee the "surge" of U.S. forces into Iraq in 2007-2008.
"The crucial aspect in this case is the ratio of security force to population – this is much more relevant," he said. "This would require one security person to every 50 people. In a country of about 32 million, this means about 600,000 security personnel would be needed to clamp it down."http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/27/troops-in-afghanistan-out_0_n_336096.html
So for a country with 313,000,000 it would take just shy of about 6,000,000 security personnel to clamp it down.
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