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**Monkeyfister** · (This post was last modified: 05-17-2012 05:15 AM by Monkeyfister.)

"I am the bride at every funeral, the corpse at every wedding."-- Brother Theodore

Thus ends another awesome thread. An end, I think we all can agree, was therapeutic, and thoroughly cathartic.

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**Astrochik**

Monkeyfister Wrote:

Astrochik Wrote:
Monkeyfister Wrote:
So, how does this justify her shilling?

You just proved my point. This is every bit as serious-- more so in scale and quantity of contaminated materials-- as Chernobyl.

The Japanese Government is still in full Denial Mode, and certainly isn't the Soviet Dictatorship capable of ordering thousands of people in to clean up the situation, and then die of cancer. So... it will go on and on and on, and on, until the next big quake brings down those crumbling reactor buildings.

I am NOT going to back down.

And I'm not attacking, I am defending innocent people from a transparent, and dangerously ignorant shill attack by Birdie. Get it straight.

I agree that this is a terrible situation, and totally unnecessary, to make it worse. We've shit in our own punchbowl, now we have to drink it.

Makes me very angry and upset. I do hope that the information about the less likelihood of the SPENT fuel being a problem is correct. I know she HONESTLY believes, and so does her husband, that this is not possible so we should not worry about it (at least not so much)

I don't agree that she's shilling. And I do not agree that the dispersion makes all the radiation harmless. I hope it is not going to get worse. I am still extremely concerned that the cores are uncontained, and we've already been exposed to a lot and the oceans are constantly being bombarded with additional radioactive cooling water. Bio-accumulation is also a big deal, and that will make pacific seafood and seaweeds suspect till proven safe to consume.

If I told you that I HONESTLY believe that a herd of Unicorns inhabited the rectum of Henry Kissinger, and THAT is why the TSA pulled a "Full Monty" on him, would you defend me as strongly?

No. because you (like the rest of us) have no desire to believe that Henry Kissinger's rectum is the conservator of the Last Unicorns.

On the other hand, you have, as Billions of the rest of us Humans share-- a deep and abiding desire to believe that everything is OK and under control at Fukushima. It's too ugly to want to look at.

But, we must.

I'm not trying to be a prick, and don't want to be. I've just done the real homework on this, and it really is all that, and potentially more. I don't like it either, but, having the life that I've led, I cannot allow sugar-coating and denial of the severity of this crisis. Both Chernobyl and Fukushima are Rated a Level 7 Nuclear Crisis. There is not much more headroom on the scale without adding as we go from here, heavens forbid; but Fukushima has plenty of time, and a major, ongoing Geological Plate shift working against it.

To happy-face this mess, and tell people to ignore it is sociopathic-level wrong.

I have always been the first to put down panic over the legendary FOGIUM. I've posted the Research Papers and videos of concrete ablation rates when exposed to scale samples of "melt-down" material. I've posted the Prevailing Wind charts all over the net. I've spent hours of training while in the Navy, down in Engineering Decks in the heat, and the screaming turbine noise, to learn my ship's power plant, top to bottom, fore to aft, safety and Damage Control, for good or ill.

Talk Chemtrails up or down all you want-- Fukushima is very serious, and and mostly regional, sure, but the West Coast is getting much more radiation than they should ever get, and there are pockets past the Rockies that are getting big blogs of Cesium and Iodine on a regular basis. This is an extremely long-scope, on-going crisis. Birdie's kind of dismissal isn't just discussion fodder, it is deliberately misleading, and not a "fuzzy issue" at all.

I bet unicorn in your rectum would hurt - a lot... chuckle

I don't know how bad the SFPs are. I hope they are not as bad as has been reported.

How do you think they should go about fixing it? I believe there should be an international consortium of mechanical, nuclear, and every other pertinent engineering type to figure out the way to best mitigate this damage and stop further damage.

The whole world should be involved. I have wondered if they won't use something like this to get the people of the world to accept one world government so that when something like this happens, one nation sitting on it's hands while it gets worse and worse won't happen again.

The BP oil "spill" is another example

Srjceahd

**sign7**

The whole nuclear industry is terra-forming the surface of the planet into a radioactive wasteland... by design.

The massive energy release emanating from the suffering of mutated and sick lifeforms is probably a tasty treat for the intra-dimensional energy sucking vampires running the show.

**Monkeyfister** · (This post was last modified: 05-17-2012 06:27 AM by Monkeyfister.)

birdie Wrote:

Monkeyfister Wrote:
Sorry Birdie. You lack credibility. Arnie Gunderson has been there, and is in constant contact with the Major Players, and I have met him on several occasions. I'll trust him first, thank you very much.

Suit yourself. Why listen to what two or three unrelated nuclear engineers have to say? What do they know anyway? Arnie Gunderson is your man.

Ummm.. Because I work with 15 Navy Nuclear Officers on a daily basis? We're friends, and speak openly. I attend as many of the Conventions they Sponsor as I can-- Usually three or four. Navy has a slew of Corporate Enterprise Partnerships across a wide range of Industries. We always Partner and co-locatewith Bechtel, or NR, or KAPL, for example. It's all networked, and it goes like this.

There is a big line of Nuke Students, resumes and portfolios in hand,at the Bechtel Booth, and three or four kids talking to the Navy guys. But, here is the deal: Navy has assigned an $X amount of Scholarship money to be handed out to qualified Candidates. The prospect finishes school on Navy's dime, goes to Officer Training school straight out, and serves 6-years Obligated Duty-- will advance to O-4 in that time if they play it right. sweet cash-out. Get it?

Back to the view from the Convention aisle...

With the Partnership and Sponsorship in mind, let's take a closer look. The Bechtel guy is eying the CV of a Student Candidate. He says: "Well-- this is a very fine Resume, but you're not quite ready for Prime Time. Tell you what-- let me introduce you to LT Jonesifatz. If you can qualify to join the Navy as a Nuclear Officer, we'll have a job for you on the way out, and will keep in contact through your whole Service Contract time, and work with you, if you decide to make Navy a 20-year Career. The opportunities with us will grow with you."

And that is how you end up with jokers like Rod Adams.

You cannot bullshit me.

And Arnie Gunderson has more Industry Credibility in the Industry than you want to admit. He's been there post event, and is working at the highest levels to evaluate and remediate this crisis. "My Man" is one of the few people to be able to be close to the situation, and yet speak more openly about it.

**pysoptic**

here is the kicker.....
anyone know how the NPP makes the electricity?????

it is not from the reaction...the nukes give off lots of electricity, no, no
this uncontrol reaction need to be cooled....so the cooling byproduct is steam.
the steam turn a run of the mill steam turbin generator. that is it.
all this to make steam...and in japan???
they are sitting on an active, very active....VOLCANO!!!!!!!!!
you'd think some bright one could come up with a way to use the volcano.
oh wait they have been doing that in hawaii for decades now!
i was at the plant back in the 90's

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 91176 05-17-2012 05:55 AM

pysoptic Wrote:

here is the kicker.....
anyone know how the NPP makes the electricity?????

it is not from the reaction...the nukes give off lots of electricity, no, no
this uncontrol reaction need to be cooled....so the cooling byproduct is steam.
the steam turn a run of the mill steam turbin generator. that is it.
all this to make steam...and in japan???
they are sitting on an active, very active....VOLCANO!!!!!!!!!
you'd think some bright one could come up with a way to use the volcano.
oh wait they have been doing that in hawaii for decades now!
i was at the plant back in the 90's

yeah but in doing something like that how do you acquire "enriched" material to threaten my neighbors with?

u see?

I means I can't very well strap a volcano to my ICBM ... can I?

:o/

**Monkeyfister** · (This post was last modified: 05-17-2012 06:18 AM by Monkeyfister.)

Astrochik Wrote:

Monkeyfister Wrote:
Astrochik Wrote:
I agree that this is a terrible situation, and totally unnecessary, to make it worse. We've shit in our own punchbowl, now we have to drink it.

Makes me very angry and upset. I do hope that the information about the less likelihood of the SPENT fuel being a problem is correct. I know she HONESTLY believes, and so does her husband, that this is not possible so we should not worry about it (at least not so much)

I don't agree that she's shilling. And I do not agree that the dispersion makes all the radiation harmless. I hope it is not going to get worse. I am still extremely concerned that the cores are uncontained, and we've already been exposed to a lot and the oceans are constantly being bombarded with additional radioactive cooling water. Bio-accumulation is also a big deal, and that will make pacific seafood and seaweeds suspect till proven safe to consume.

If I told you that I HONESTLY believe that a herd of Unicorns inhabited the rectum of Henry Kissinger, and THAT is why the TSA pulled a "Full Monty" on him, would you defend me as strongly?

No. because you (like the rest of us) have no desire to believe that Henry Kissinger's rectum is the conservator of the Last Unicorns.

On the other hand, you have, as Billions of the rest of us Humans share-- a deep and abiding desire to believe that everything is OK and under control at Fukushima. It's too ugly to want to look at.

But, we must.

I'm not trying to be a prick, and don't want to be. I've just done the real homework on this, and it really is all that, and potentially more. I don't like it either, but, having the life that I've led, I cannot allow sugar-coating and denial of the severity of this crisis. Both Chernobyl and Fukushima are Rated a Level 7 Nuclear Crisis. There is not much more headroom on the scale without adding as we go from here, heavens forbid; but Fukushima has plenty of time, and a major, ongoing Geological Plate shift working against it.

To happy-face this mess, and tell people to ignore it is sociopathic-level wrong.

I have always been the first to put down panic over the legendary FOGIUM. I've posted the Research Papers and videos of concrete ablation rates when exposed to scale samples of "melt-down" material. I've posted the Prevailing Wind charts all over the net. I've spent hours of training while in the Navy, down in Engineering Decks in the heat, and the screaming turbine noise, to learn my ship's power plant, top to bottom, fore to aft, safety and Damage Control, for good or ill.

Talk Chemtrails up or down all you want-- Fukushima is very serious, and and mostly regional, sure, but the West Coast is getting much more radiation than they should ever get, and there are pockets past the Rockies that are getting big blogs of Cesium and Iodine on a regular basis. This is an extremely long-scope, on-going crisis. Birdie's kind of dismissal isn't just discussion fodder, it is deliberately misleading, and not a "fuzzy issue" at all.

(1). I bet unicorn in your rectum would hurt - a lot...

(2). I don't know how bad the SFPs are. I hope they are not as bad as has been reported.

(3). How do you think they should go about fixing it? I believe there should be an international consortium of mechanical, nuclear, and every other pertinent engineering type to figure out the way to best mitigate this damage and stop further damage.

The whole world should be involved. I have wondered if they won't use something like this to get the people of the world to accept one world government so that when something like this happens, one nation sitting on it's hands while it gets worse and worse won't happen again.

The BP oil "spill" is another example

(1). I think that would hurt most anyone. I suspect that IF Henry Kissinger was harboring a herd of Unicorns in his rectum, he'd sorta like it. I don't want to speculate about his callouses.

(2). #4 Reactor Building was badly damaged, and continues to list further while they do everything to buttress it. The SFP is full of NEW fuel "just Uranium" thankfully, but new, and hot. If the pool springs a big enough leak, the Zirconium alloy WILL heat up and burn off-- that is EXACTLY what happens in a Melt-down-- the Zircalloy burns away, and the fuel is exposed, and unchallenged by the control rods. it burns through the steel structure and melts the fittings, and the entire fuel/control structure falls onto the Bottom Well Head. It is why we had the Hydrogen explosions in the other reactors, there. The constant 4-6 mag quakes are complicating efforts. Plus, in addition to the Radiation, and as a result of it-- it is HOT thermally. If you have ever worked, or trained in the Snipe Sections of a Nuclear- Powered Ship, you know the crushing heat, and the blessings of the chiller stations. Around Reactors 1-3 it is literally too hot for robots, and they are trying desperately to design a robot that can deal with the radiation and heat as I type-- but we've been bailing out Banksters, and there's little cash left to throuw at this.

(3). This should be a "drop the war shit, and get to work on this" moment. It really should be an "all hands on deck, world wide: let's fix this shit" situation. A combination of Japan's unwillingness to admit the Truth all at once, TEPCO's ineptitude, plus the Industry Parnerships and Lobbyists, and the NRC itself, are making it difficult to take any substantial move. And again-- we spent our wad bailing out Banksters. No Cash... No Can Do.

They've almost encapsulated Reactor One... a bit late, but little victories, I suppose.

The BP Oil Spill continues... Have you tasted any of the Gulf Seafood lately-- really tried it? The taste of Oil and chemicals doesn't leave your mouth. I've had friends come up from Pensabama with fresh shrimp and oysters... We couldn't eat them, they were clearly wrong. Well-- Scott ate them. He ate Daddy Long Legs when he was a kid, to, so there's that.

Doesn't matter if friends bring it, or I get it from the guy with the fridge truck at the Memphis Farmers' Market, or from Kroger; doesn't matter if it is Shrimp, Oysters, Tuna, Redfish, Grouper-- it all has that same taste.

I won't eat it.

**birdie**

Kill the Matrix Wrote:

birdie Wrote:
The stupid..it burns.

Then you should give it up.

But really, I notice you resort to name-calling when you don't have a response for people. You're getting beat up pretty hard and you've made some very misinformed statements here, but that isn't grounds for you to go around calling people "jackasses" and crap. It really just tells me that you don't have a defense for what you say. You've been caught in a couple of lies already, don't make the situation worse.

I'm talking to YOU, jackass. You are the one with the stupid so bad it burns. I'm getting beat up? How is that? You think calling me a shill and a "conservative" is "beating me up"? And what is it that I have LIED about? Absolutely nothing. You have ZERO reading skills.

I posted a video by NUCLEAR ENGINEER Rod Adams, who said that the Fukushima mess is a problem for Japan, not for the USA, and that people like Gundersen and Alvarez are needlessly fear-mongering the public by calling it a "world ending event." I also said I happen to AGREE with Adams's judgment because my husband is ALSO a nuclear engineer and he has the same assessment based on the way nuclear power and physics works.

The WORLD does NOT have to agree with YOU.

People who have actual knowledge of this subject matter DISAGREE with you.

Why do you keep saying "what if the nuclear fuel pool falls into the ocean"? Do you not READ? You obviously don't read my responses because it was already linked for you that Alvarez apparently worries that an earthquake would dump it there. Who cares what Alvarez thinks? He has no credentials - none. And then the so-stupid-it-REALLY-burns Joe Neubarth suggests that if the fuel falls into the ocean it COULD GO CRITICAL which is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

What defense am I missing here? You have had a nuclear engineer blogger explain to you why it is a local problem for Japan and not a problem for THE WORLD and you have a layperson get the EXACT SAME ANSWER for you, all explained and everything, and the best comeback you have is to say "I don't believe you."

There is NOTHING you have said that has provided any explanation as to how the Fukushima event is going to end the world. NONE.

So, all you have are your fear-mongering speculations. If you want to think that way, and lose sleep about your sorry ass safely tucked away here in America, then be my guest.

But, thankfully there are SOME people in this world with real knowledge who will call bullshit on some stupid internet-driven hysteria and bring some sanity into the discussion.

**Monkeyfister** · (This post was last modified: 05-17-2012 06:36 AM by Monkeyfister.)

LoP Guest Wrote:

pysoptic Wrote:
here is the kicker.....
anyone know how the NPP makes the electricity?????

it is not from the reaction...the nukes give off lots of electricity, no, no
this uncontrol reaction need to be cooled....so the cooling byproduct is steam.
the steam turn a run of the mill steam turbin generator. that is it.
all this to make steam...and in japan???
they are sitting on an active, very active....VOLCANO!!!!!!!!!
you'd think some bright one could come up with a way to use the volcano.
oh wait they have been doing that in hawaii for decades now!
i was at the plant back in the 90's

yeah but in doing something like that how do you acquire "enriched" material to threaten my neighbors with?

u see?

I means I can't very well strap a volcano to my ICBM ... can I?

:o/

And THAT is why we cannot have better things like Thorium Reactors. They still require a little Uranium, but it is far safer.

Quote:Man Well that was really horrible.
Woman You're always complaining.
Man What's for afters?
Woman Well there's rat cake ... rat sorbet ... rat pudding ... or strawberry tart.
Man Strawberry tart?!
Woman Well, it's got some rat in it.
Man How much?
Woman Three (rather a lot really).
Man ... well, I'll have a slice without so much rat in it.

Better the Thorium Process, than the Uranium/MOX Process which gives birth to new Bombs.

If we must. Lots of Thorium in the good ol' USA. But it looks like we'd rather Frack Oil and Gas Shale. Heavy sigh.

**Monkeyfister** · (This post was last modified: 05-17-2012 06:49 AM by Monkeyfister.)

birdie Wrote:

Kill the Matrix Wrote:
birdie Wrote:
The stupid..it burns.

Then you should give it up.

But really, I notice you resort to name-calling when you don't have a response for people. You're getting beat up pretty hard and you've made some very misinformed statements here, but that isn't grounds for you to go around calling people "jackasses" and crap. It really just tells me that you don't have a defense for what you say. You've been caught in a couple of lies already, don't make the situation worse.

I'm talking to YOU, jackass. You are the one with the stupid so bad it burns. I'm getting beat up? How is that? You think calling me a shill and a "conservative" is "beating me up"? And what is it that I have LIED about? Absolutely nothing. You have ZERO reading skills.

I posted a video by NUCLEAR ENGINEER Rod Adams, who said that the Fukushima mess is a problem for Japan, not for the USA, and that people like Gundersen and Alvarez are needlessly fear-mongering the public by calling it a "world ending event." I also said I happen to AGREE with Adams's judgment because my husband is ALSO a nuclear engineer and he has the same assessment based on the way nuclear power and physics works.

The WORLD does NOT have to agree with YOU.

People who have actual knowledge of this subject matter DISAGREE with you.

Why do you keep saying "what if the nuclear fuel pool falls into the ocean"? Do you not READ? You obviously don't read my responses because it was already linked for you that Alvarez apparently worries that an earthquake would dump it there. Who cares what Alvarez thinks? He has no credentials - none. And then the so-stupid-it-REALLY-burns Joe Neubarth suggests that if the fuel falls into the ocean it COULD GO CRITICAL which is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

What defense am I missing here? You have had a nuclear engineer blogger explain to you why it is a local problem for Japan and not a problem for THE WORLD and you have a layperson get the EXACT SAME ANSWER for you, all explained and everything, and the best comeback you have is to say "I don't believe you."

There is NOTHING you have said that has provided any explanation as to how the Fukushima event is going to end the world. NONE.

So, all you have are your fear-mongering speculations. If you want to think that way, and lose sleep about your sorry ass safely tucked away here in America, then be my guest.

But, thankfully there are SOME people in this world with real knowledge who will call bullshit on some stupid internet-driven hysteria and bring some sanity into the discussion.

(sigh) Going after the low-hanging fruit (no offense, Kill the Matrix), I feel left out.

Our hostess is reduced to Emotional Appeal. Not much left in this one.

I feel my work is done, here.

I suggest we all take a refreshing time out with this AWESOMEAPOTTOMUSLY AWESOME Polka Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxF494XR__A

**pysoptic**

back in the late 60's and early70's we had a real chance to throw money into R&D for things like solar power....
it was decided i guess that there would be no control of the current if that were to happen.
wow what a different world it would've...could've been?
IT SHOULD be!
bigger "sigh"

**Kill the Matrix**

birdie Wrote:

Kill the Matrix Wrote:
birdie Wrote:
The stupid..it burns.

Then you should give it up.

But really, I notice you resort to name-calling when you don't have a response for people. You're getting beat up pretty hard and you've made some very misinformed statements here, but that isn't grounds for you to go around calling people "jackasses" and crap. It really just tells me that you don't have a defense for what you say. You've been caught in a couple of lies already, don't make the situation worse.

I'm talking to YOU, jackass. You are the one with the stupid so bad it burns. I'm getting beat up? How is that? You think calling me a shill and a "conservative" is "beating me up"? And what is it that I have LIED about? Absolutely nothing. You have ZERO reading skills.

I posted a video by NUCLEAR ENGINEER Rod Adams, who said that the Fukushima mess is a problem for Japan, not for the USA, and that people like Gundersen and Alvarez are needlessly fear-mongering the public by calling it a "world ending event." I also said I happen to AGREE with Adams's judgment because my husband is ALSO a nuclear engineer and he has the same assessment based on the way nuclear power and physics works.

The WORLD does NOT have to agree with YOU.

People who have actual knowledge of this subject matter DISAGREE with you.

Why do you keep saying "what if the nuclear fuel pool falls into the ocean"? Do you not READ? You obviously don't read my responses because it was already linked for you that Alvarez apparently worries that an earthquake would dump it there. Who cares what Alvarez thinks? He has no credentials - none. And then the so-stupid-it-REALLY-burns Joe Neubarth suggests that if the fuel falls into the ocean it COULD GO CRITICAL which is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

What defense am I missing here? You have had a nuclear engineer blogger explain to you why it is a local problem for Japan and not a problem for THE WORLD and you have a layperson get the EXACT SAME ANSWER for you, all explained and everything, and the best comeback you have is to say "I don't believe you."

There is NOTHING you have said that has provided any explanation as to how the Fukushima event is going to end the world. NONE.

So, all you have are your fear-mongering speculations. If you want to think that way, and lose sleep about your sorry ass safely tucked away here in America, then be my guest.

But, thankfully there are SOME people in this world with real knowledge who will call bullshit on some stupid internet-driven hysteria and bring some sanity into the discussion.

Wow, you seem upset.

Let me tell you why you are a liar. I asked if your hubby had any financial investment in the nuclear industry, you said that he didn't. I could go back and find it, but it was something like "none, zero, zilch." Then later you said he is licensed in the industry. That's is an enormous financial incentive.

Further, you base your assessments on information derived from TEPCO, a company that has repeatedly lied for the past year about this disaster. At most, the information we hear is suspect and probably not an accurate report of the circumstances. We have acknowledgements from the company that they lied from the beginning. We know that.

So if you were being intellectually honest, you would admit YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW, and no one outside of TEPCO really knows what is going on because the information they give us is likely a lie. You don't know if it's safe, you don't know if we're being dosed, you don't know how much of the Pacific is effected. YOU DON'T KNOW AND YET YOU ASSURE PEOPLE IT'S FINE.

Therefore, all these so-called "experts" you keep citing are merely making assumptions about a situation that has been repeatedly been shown to be worse than reported and one based on information they KNOW is probably incorrect. You passing along that information and downplaying the severity of this situation is sinful. Given TEPCO's track record, we must assume that the situation is far more grave than they are telling us. There is absolutely no other reason to believe otherwise. Given TEPCO's penchant for lying, we have no way of knowing just how badly the plant is damaged, but based on past history, we do know it is probably much worse than they are saying.

How sad that you think that "losing sleep" worrying about things such as the safety of others, about people's children having to grow upon this toxic planet, the marine life, the fisherman, and so forth is "stupid" and "hysteria" because it may not be affecting those of us in the US. "Tough shit for them," seems to be your attitude. Such a lack of compassion for the suffering of others makes me reject your ability to accurately assess any problem out of your immediate sphere of influence.

THIS shitty attitude of your's is reason enough to discount your information. Since you have qualified this disaster to be dangerous if it only effects YOU and is immediately apparent, your misguided opinions should be rejected out-of-hand as you have aptly demonstrated your inability to give a shit about anything other than yourself. If radiation was going to kill a sizable portion of the population outside your immediate area, I doubt you would consider that a worthy threat. "Who cares, it's just a bunch of Japanese and the weirdos living in Alaska who will suffer."

**pysoptic**

funny how the post i put up from TEPCO from may 15th that stated they have complete meltdown 2 reactors and have holes in containment...that means the shit is out in the ground..not the ocean!
then the audio file....and report that the fuel is in a complete liquid form in the ground.
that would be burning at a temp about 1/2 the temp of the sun's photosphere!
about 1,000 degree F above that of molten rock or lava. this has been left out of this convoluted name calling thread.

if TEPCO is starting to say thing are worse....things ARE worse.....

and i'm sorry OP i am going with this info and not hubby or some 3rd party's info.

the issue as our own senator has made public after going there, is the fuel storage at #4 could fall over....did you see the video from TEPCO....
i have seen better built stages for a rock concert then what is holding that building together!

but if you want to go with hubby and 3rd party.............

**Monkeyfister** · (This post was last modified: 05-17-2012 07:28 AM by Monkeyfister.)

pysoptic Wrote:

back in the late 60's and early70's we had a real chance to throw money into R&D for things like solar power....
it was decided i guess that there would be no control of the current if that were to happen.
wow what a different world it would've...could've been?
IT SHOULD be!
bigger "sigh"

Yep.

That might lead to DE-CENTRALIZED Power Generation... Bad for Corporations, donchaknow.

Later, at the Board Meeting:
"We'll need to stomp that notion out toot-sweet, youbetcha, and find new oil sources to squeeze out. The people will move when they feel they need to. No need to change."

De-centralized Power Generation should be the GOAL. Every building and house should have voltaics-- medians of road ways. Roads can be voltaics. Sometimes I just f*cking wonder why the resistance to something so mutually superb for Citizens AND Corporations, alike. We NEED Companies and Municipalities to keep improving the lines of Communication and Energy storage and transmission. They are not. Too busy bailing out Banksters, I reckon.

As Peter F. Hamilton would phrase it:

"Reality Dysfunction."

**Anonmyth**

Kill the Matrix Wrote:

"Who cares, it's just a bunch of Japanese and the weirdos living in Alaska who will suffer."

don't forget hawaii and anyone (or any organism) who eats food from the pacific ocean ^^