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**new boss** lop guest User ID: 128858 10-27-2012 01:00 AM

They don't from my experience. They are set up like they do but they don't. They have a few things wrong with them that I have to go through every time and that is why I am worse off then when I started getting treatment.

They don't diagnose you with a God damn thing. They have a list of set things that you have to be going through and won't budge off of it. For example if you are going through paranoia that is fine but if you are going through something like thinking that you are getting messages from TV that is a punishment that you go through. They will keep you there longer and give you more medicine instead of actually telling you what is wrong.

We are not in the 1800s anymore so we need to change the way that mental patients are treated. It is also not specific to the individual. If I am mentally sick I can not do the same thing that a mental patient who may or may not be going through the same thing can do. I can't physically walk to the doctor and go to 6 groups a day, stay up all day instead of going to bed and staying there, etc.

They treat you like a damn robot that better be able to do stuff. If I could do all that crap then why the hell would I be in the mental hospital? And then when you tell them that you can't do that then they send about 8 bodyguards in your room to forcefully make you or they hold you down and give you a shot that makes it worse. That is just going to make it so that I can't do it worse.

They need to get some new symptoms and come up with some new diseases because this ye-old schizophrenia isn't acceptable anymore. And if you can't do something they need to stop rationalizing you out of it too. They like to try to make you believe that you are crazy when you really aren't by saying stuff like, "You are just imagining" or "If God wanted you dead he would just zap you."

We are not in the 1800s like I said so we are going through totally different stuff like conspiracies, mind control, etc.

They need to break out of their comfort zone and truly get on the patients level. God! This shit is never going to stop and if it does it will be so that a generation of people in the future don't go through our stuff and the problem with that is that they will be going through a totally different series of things that are specific to them. I don't know what I will have to do to get my mental disease diagnosed but this is an emergency.

**Kanigo2** lop guest User ID: 97971 10-27-2012 01:04 AM

Problem is more then 3/4 of the people that are there are for first control problems/exacerbated family issues and drug use.

Another 3/8 are mentaly incapable or just poor.

But that last 1/8, the really out there ones, yes the hospital is there to help

People just have social issues that they think are driving them cray.. You can tell when you talk to them, they are just really depressed over life piling up on them.

Its ok though.

**a student of Protean thought** lop guest User ID: 87701 10-27-2012 01:08 AM

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Posted by Eva Witte at 12:03 PM
Sunday, September 20, 2009

Heath and healing received by others through psychic spiritual help

A psychotherapist in Hawaii named Dr Hew Len who has an even more radical approach to healing. According to his account while employed by the Hawaii State Hospital (HSH) for four years, Dr Hew Len endeavored to treat and cure an entire ward of criminally insane patients without ever meeting, or physically interacting with, any of them. In addition, as the patients began to steadily improve and even get released, conditions on the ward also improved with the result that staff morale went up even as turnover and absenteeism declined.

How did he do it? Well, according to Dr Hew Len’s testimony instead of interacting with patients he simply sat in his office with a patient’s file open before him while he "worked on himself." And how did he work on himself? By repeating over and over "I’m sorry" and "I love you".

You see, according to Dr Hew Len he was simply healing the part of himself that created them. In his way of thinking each person’s mind is their very own personal movie projector and everything they see in their world is their responsibility because they are the one who’s projecting it. If you don’t like the movie you’re watching it’s up to you to change the movie. Because to heal anyone of anything we must first neutralize the negative energy we associate with that person. To do that we must first ask forgiveness for having held that person in a negative way, in our own minds, and then allow ourselves to feel love toward that person.

Aliman Sears, President of the Hawaii Psychosocial Rehabilitation Association-
"I've worked at HSH on and off for the past seven years as a community based psychiatric case manager and team leader. I suppose if there was some solid evidence about what Dr. Hew Len did, I would have at least heard rumors about him. However, in the case of HSH, even if there was a temporal relation between his utterances and the healing of the patients, that doesn't mean that there was also a causal link. Without a study showing that link, I'm skeptical.
The HSH has been under a Consent Decree as a result of a federal lawsuit, and the DOJ has put severe pressure on the Hawaii Dept. of Health to improve. As a result, the HSH has made huge leaps forward. I saw it transform myself. And it was due to a lot of hard work by a lot of people across a wide spectrum of state and private service providers. The DOH lit a HUGE fire under a lot of people all across the management and treatment spectrum, and the result--it's true--was that everything, including the patients improved drastically. Whole wings did close, but it was because the census dropped and other reasons. My guess is that if such cures would have happened, especially in "a whole ward," it really would be big news.
Again, I'm not saying this didn't happen, I'm saying I'm skeptical in the absence of evidence."

Ho`oponopono
-in the Hawaiian language means "setting to right".
Ho`oponopono is a traditional Hawaiian problem-solving process for maintaining harmonious relationships and resolving conflict within the extended family.
The physical, emotional, and spiritual well-being of an individual in relationship to family, community, and environment is a major focus of the Hawaiian culture.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 129698 10-27-2012 01:10 AM

depends how tall are you?

**Moranic_Mayhem** lop guest User ID: 14081 10-27-2012 01:13 AM

Stay in there.. they have to earn their wages somehow.. chuckle

**new boss** lop guest User ID: 128858 10-27-2012 01:18 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

depends how tall are you?

Very short. I am 5 foot 3. I have to do a survey someday to see if mental hospitals help other short guys.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 129698 10-27-2012 01:20 AM

new boss Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
depends how tall are you?

Very short. I am 5 foot 3. I have to do a survey someday to see if mental hospitals help other short guys.

Actually if you were 5'2" they probably could have helped you, but you'r too tall by an inch and regulations are regulations.

**Yoyodyne**

Don't know never been to one. Tell them to crank up the voltage on your next electroshock therapy and see if it helps....

**Moranic_Mayhem** lop guest User ID: 14081 10-27-2012 01:24 AM

new boss Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
depends how tall are you?

Very short. I am 5 foot 3. I have to do a survey someday to see if mental hospitals help other short guys.

Never saw that comment coming.. went between my thighs.. you acting the fool again..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvh3B_MTbGo

**Moranic_Mayhem** lop guest User ID: 14081 10-27-2012 01:28 AM

If it's an admin to whom it may concern..

I predict you are worried that you are losing business..

You know what sells?

Respect..

**Kanigo2** lop guest User ID: 97971 10-27-2012 01:28 AM

Moranic_Mayhem Wrote:

If it's an admin to whom it may concern..

I predict you are worried that you are losing business..

You know what sells?

Respect..

You are trying to tell us something...

**roadtoad**

The statistics i read say, about mental illness: For those who are institutionized: 1/3rd get better, 1/3rd get worse, 1/3rd stay the same.
On ones own; 1/3rd get better, 1/3rd get worse, 1/3rd stay the same.
I think the only difference might be; which category a particular individual fits in.

**Moranic_Mayhem** lop guest User ID: 14081 10-27-2012 01:33 AM

Kanigo2 Wrote:

Moranic_Mayhem Wrote:
If it's an admin to whom it may concern..

I predict you are worried that you are losing business..

You know what sells?

Respect..

You are trying to tell us something...

;)

**monkeydog**

You sound like Titan, who was posting about "chillpoint" as well as his schizophrenia.

Please go to your nearest emergency room and admit yourself.

This is not meant to be funny.

**sugarelf** · **sugarelf** De røde sko User ID: 109837 10-27-2012 01:42 AM **Posts: 3,020**

they help the police by giving them a place to take such folks when the need arises