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**JF Priest** · **JF Priest** Subscriber User ID: 47416 09-22-2012 01:40 PM **Posts: 23,840**

There’s a new twist to the ongoing vaccine debate: Doctors are increasingly “firing” patients whose refuse to vaccinate their children, according to a new report from The Wall Street Journal.

One office in Michigan, for example, made the decision to stop treating vaccine-refusers because they could expose children — some of whom are too young for some shots — to diseases:

In one case, an unvaccinated child came in with a high fever and Dr. [Allan] LaReau feared the patient might have meningitis, a contagious, potentially deadly infection of the brain and spinal cord for which a vaccine commonly is given. “I lost a lot more sleep than I usually do” worrying about the situation, he said.

“You feel badly about losing a nice family from the practice,” added Dr. LaReau, but families who refused to vaccinate their kids were told that “this is going to be a difficult relationship without this core part of pediatrics.” Some families chose to go elsewhere while others agreed to have their kids inoculated.
Take the Shot or GTFO...

**Karu**

That's been going on for the last 5 years or so. Let them lose busine$$.

**FreedomStands**

Wow but just recently they admitted to the damages done by some vaccines.

Other viral vaccines sometimes "accidentally" carry the live virus and inject it.

No way!

**evilolive** · (This post was last modified: 09-22-2012 01:48 PM by evilolive.)

FreedomStands Wrote:

Wow but just recently they admitted to the damages done by some vaccines.

Other viral vaccines sometimes "accidentally" carry the live virus and inject it.

No way!

Aren't they all supposed to carry a miniature form of the virus anyway? That's how they're supposed to work - they put in a small amount, then the antibodies learn how to fight it so next time it won't be so bad.. I thought that was a great accomplishment for the Polio vaccine inventor to come up with that. He was a kind hearted man.

**Joshua Flynn**

JF Priest Wrote:

One office in Michigan, for example, made the decision to stop treating vaccine-refusers

Showing their true, wolfish colours.

Do as we say or we'll mistreat you.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 77726 09-22-2012 01:56 PM

Key their cars.

**Joshua Flynn**

evilolive Wrote:

FreedomStands Wrote:
Wow but just recently they admitted to the damages done by some vaccines.

Other viral vaccines sometimes "accidentally" carry the live virus and inject it.

No way!

Aren't they all supposed to carry a miniature form of the virus anyway? That's how they're supposed to work - they put in a small amount, then the antibodies learn how to fight it so next time it won't be so bad.. I thought that was a great accomplishment for the Polio vaccine inventor to come up with that. He was a kind hearted man.

The virus is supposed to typically be dead. If it was a live and unweakened strain, as Pasteur demonstrated in his work, it would kill whoever they injected it with.

Besides, some people, with compromised immuno-deficiency cannot have a live one and require the dead viri version, but there have been known to be mistakes in that regard.

**JF Priest** · **JF Priest** Subscriber User ID: 47416 09-22-2012 01:57 PM **Posts: 23,840**

We don't want your Unvaccinated non conforming kid in our waiting rooms..infecting the sheep who are their to get their shots.... Scream1

**evilolive** · (This post was last modified: 09-22-2012 02:02 PM by evilolive.)

Joshua Flynn Wrote:

JF Priest Wrote:
One office in Michigan, for example, made the decision to stop treating vaccine-refusers

Showing their true, wolfish colours.

Do as we say or we'll mistreat you.

Well think about it - if they're not trusting to take the vaccines then why the hell would these same patients bother to listen to the same doctors advice anyway? What's the point of the doctors wasting the patients time when they're too busy saying they won't accept any of their treatments unless it was made with baking soda and hemp? There's other doctors for that and they may as well be treating other patients who aren't being know-it-alls/I don't need no med degree to tell you how to treat me (ie. people desperate for medical attention) to them and just send them off to a certified holistic doctor..

Just save those doctors for the ones who cant afford it and those who aren't aware. I'm iffy on vaccines too but with that, I'm iffy on the doctors too. Not that I think doctors are evil. They're usually good concerned people who learned from schools sponsered by med companies.

**Joshua Flynn**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Key their cars.

Let's not stoop to their level. They'd merely use that to slander anti-vaccinaters 'look how they key our cars!' whilst refusing to treat families for their choices.

Sure they're being hypocrites but that's how they work. If you're better than them, what can they say?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 58515 09-22-2012 02:00 PM

Need to keep track of who these Peds docs are.
If the doc was particularly rude to non vaccinators THAT needs to be documented also.
The day is coming when the truth of vaccinations will come out.
Not only do doctors who bought the Koolaide need to be noted.... the ones who drank with gusto and trashed their patients or patient's parents with gust need to be particularly noted.
Providers who have difficulty actually thinking like a scientist, but instead read and regurge should be exposed to general public.

Folks need to write down their version of the events surrounding a pediatrician described above and keep it for the future when the truth comes out.

**Joshua Flynn**

evilolive Wrote:

Joshua Flynn Wrote:
JF Priest Wrote:
One office in Michigan, for example, made the decision to stop treating vaccine-refusers

Showing their true, wolfish colours.

Do as we say or we'll mistreat you.

Well think about it - if they're not trusting to take the vaccines then why the hell would these same patients bother to listen to the same doctors advice anyway? What's the point of the doctors wasting the patients time when they're too busy saying they won't accept any of their treatments unless it was made with baking soda and hemp? There's other doctors for that and they may as well be treating other patients who arent being big know-it-alls (ie. people desperate for medical attention) to them and just send them off to a certified holistic doctor..

That's an appeal to false dilemma, and hasty generalisation fallacy.

You're falsely (and rather poisoning the well fallacy-esque here) assuming that patients who refuse one kind of treatment would refuse other kinds of treatment. Why would they, for example, refuse antibiotics? Or advice on how to treat an artery wound?

Saying they would expect their treatments, to be "made with baking soda and hemp" is a vicious attempt at slandering the target audience with no statistical basis to back it up. I retort I will refuse to have vaccines but I don't expect my treatments to consist of 'baking soda and hemp' - and my research on negative ions reducing headaches appears to have been confirmed here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/...63882.html

I also have a study that backs up my work on earthquake prediction. Unless you want to insinuate maybe I am just a 'baking soda and hemp' individual?

**Joshua Flynn**

The new york times reports:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/04/health....html?_r=0

"Federal health officials and prosecutors, frustrated that they have been unable to stop illegal kickbacks to doctors from drug and device companies, are investigating doctors who take money for using these products."

" But within a few months, officials plan to file civil and criminal charges against a number of surgeons who they say demanded profitable consulting agreements from device makers in exchange for using their products."

I guess if people refuse to use the devices and products they try to peddle, the doctors naturally don't benefit and get angry about it?

**Cammi**

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=07So_lJQy...7So_lJQyqw

Ps:why won't this embed?

**Joshua Flynn**

Cammi Wrote:

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=07So_lJQy...7So_lJQyqw

Ps:why won't this embed?

It's mobile youtube.

Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07So_lJQyqw