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**Cajun111**

Galaxy Wrote:

Did i vote against the EU constitution in a referendum? YES

Did i get a chance to vote against the introduction of the euro? NO

Did i get a chance to vote against the Lissbon treaty? NO

Did i get a chance to vote against the ESM treaty? NO

You should read the treaty, its like giving up our independence to EU
As said; its against our constitution and an outgoing (demissionair) gov has no righ to make such decisions.

Trials will follow. I'm not a PVV fan but this are they doing right.

Sorry if i sound a bit outraged. (have to cool down).

Your OUTRAGE is understandable and a rational response to the willful disreguard for the Rights of the people. Heartflowers

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 3939 05-24-2012 04:19 PM

Galaxy Wrote:

Did i vote against the EU constitution in a referendum? YES

Did i get a chance to vote against the introduction of the euro? NO

Did i get a chance to vote against the Lissbon treaty? NO

Did i get a chance to vote against the ESM treaty? NO

You should read the treaty, its like giving up our independence to EU
As said; its against our constitution and an outgoing (demissionair) gov has no righ to make such decisions.

Trials will follow. I'm not a PVV fan but this are they doing right.

Sorry if i sound a bit outraged. (have to cool down).

You seem to feel your voice still counts? Poor deluded fool. You are nothing to them. How arrogant of you to feel your voice matters.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 90747 05-24-2012 04:19 PM

Reminder: The NWO has abused America as it's fist and it's moneybelt. It's abused other nations in similar fashion. So, be careful to point the finger where it belongs - squarely at the NWO, not at any group of citizenry. No citizenry wants their shit.

**Moco** lop guest User ID: 49195 05-24-2012 04:23 PM

Galaxy Wrote:

Now the EU can demand any amount of billions from us, and we have to pay it up.

I really hope the parliament stops this BS.

NWO, one size fits all. Cheer

"You shall obey, or else."

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 90747 05-24-2012 04:33 PM

Moco Wrote:

Galaxy Wrote:
Now the EU can demand any amount of billions from us, and we have to pay it up.

I really hope the parliament stops this BS.

NWO, one size fits all.

"You shall obey, or else."

The USA taxpayers are paying for most of the EU Missile Shield, all of the Israel Missile Shield, probably at least part of the India Missile Shield, the Australian Missile Shield, the Asian Missile Shield, yet our own Missile Shield won't be ready for 6-8 years...

All citizenry are being abused by the NWO: money taken, rights removed, used as tools for the NWO's political advancement and world domination agenda.

If there was ANYTHING good in it they'd flat out tell us. They have zero good for us or they'd be blabbering it to the high hills and people would get behind them for some happy future - ain't happening.

**Cajun111**

sea Wrote:

People like me have complained for years that our country was going to be and already looking like america. Democratie is gone now that brussel has the staff. It is good that the pvv is sueing the current coalition, if they win then this will be reverted. Then we got a new election on 12 september and maybe the new coalition will turn it around, perhaps there is no doom for the people but doom for the current government.
Most people also seem to forget that the dutch helped brussel to become what is now. They did it without approval from the people, we knew it was going to backstab us, but they wanted to be at the top. Their ambition is our downfall.

You guys figured out that the government is a puppet to the Royal families that reign over both Belgium ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Belgium and the Netherlands? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of...etherlands Don't be mislead, they hold the REIGNS of POWER!!!

**sea**

Cajun111 Wrote:

sea Wrote:
People like me have complained for years that our country was going to be and already looking like america. Democratie is gone now that brussel has the staff. It is good that the pvv is sueing the current coalition, if they win then this will be reverted. Then we got a new election on 12 september and maybe the new coalition will turn it around, perhaps there is no doom for the people but doom for the current government.
Most people also seem to forget that the dutch helped brussel to become what is now. They did it without approval from the people, we knew it was going to backstab us, but they wanted to be at the top. Their ambition is our downfall.
You guys figured out that the government is a puppet to the Royal families that reign over both Belgium ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Belgium and the Netherlands? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of...etherlands Don't be mislead, they hold the REIGNS of POWER!!!

Are you dutch ?
Read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutio..._ministers

**Zardoz** · (This post was last modified: 05-24-2012 04:58 PM by Zardoz.)

I'm American. I could initiate you. Usually, when our power crazy leaders do something illegal, unjust and a violation of civil rights, people from all over the world go on forums and tell us that

it's our own fault for "allowing that". Jptdknpa

and then some snide comment about fat Americans who watch Dancing with the Stars....to dehumanize and demonize us - so they won't have to "care" - because we "deserve" what's happening.

Hugs

Just kidding...I wouldn't say that to you. Not kidding about the number of times I've heard it though.

"Stay Calm and Aware." ~Ceasar Milan

**Galaxy** · (This post was last modified: 05-24-2012 04:55 PM by Galaxy.)

sea Wrote:

Cajun111 Wrote:
sea Wrote:
People like me have complained for years that our country was going to be and already looking like america. Democratie is gone now that brussel has the staff. It is good that the pvv is sueing the current coalition, if they win then this will be reverted. Then we got a new election on 12 september and maybe the new coalition will turn it around, perhaps there is no doom for the people but doom for the current government.
Most people also seem to forget that the dutch helped brussel to become what is now. They did it without approval from the people, we knew it was going to backstab us, but they wanted to be at the top. Their ambition is our downfall.
You guys figured out that the government is a puppet to the Royal families that reign over both Belgium ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Belgium and the Netherlands? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of...etherlands Don't be mislead, they hold the REIGNS of POWER!!!

Are you dutch ?
Read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutio..._ministers

Thanks for link, i will read it when i'm less mad..

**Smilin' Eyes**

Galaxy Wrote:

Now the EU can demand any amount of billions from us, and we have to pay it up.

I really hope the parliament stops this BS.

Sounds like the bailouts that happened in the US. Welcome to the European form of our federal government. All of the sovereign countries are now no more than states under the federal European Union. Have you learned to speak Esperanto yet? If you have kids or grandkids, they should or will be learning the new international language at school.

Sigh

As a student of history, I look at the EU and think why didn't the populace learn their lessons from the two major World Wars that happened? This take-over of sovereign countries was done without firing a shot and WITH the consent of most of the populace. S977

Hitler and Mussolini are kicking themselves for not coming up with this scheme earlier.

**Smilin' Eyes**

Galaxy Wrote:

Did i vote against the EU constitution in a referendum? YES

Did i get a chance to vote against the introduction of the euro? NO

Did i get a chance to vote against the Lissbon treaty? NO

Did i get a chance to vote against the ESM treaty? NO

You should read the treaty, its like giving up our independence to EU
As said; its against our constitution and an outgoing (demissionair) gov has no righ to make such decisions.

Trials will follow. I'm not a PVV fan but this are they doing right.

Sorry if i sound a bit outraged. (have to cool down).

As well you should be outraged.

Our civil war was about states' rights over dictates from the federal government. Perhaps it may be time for the populace of those sovereign nations to really enforce to the politicians/government that you don't wish to become a "Michigan" of the EU.

**Galaxy**

Smilin Eyes Wrote:

Galaxy Wrote:
Did i vote against the EU constitution in a referendum? YES

Did i get a chance to vote against the introduction of the euro? NO

Did i get a chance to vote against the Lissbon treaty? NO

Did i get a chance to vote against the ESM treaty? NO

You should read the treaty, its like giving up our independence to EU
As said; its against our constitution and an outgoing (demissionair) gov has no righ to make such decisions.

Trials will follow. I'm not a PVV fan but this are they doing right.

Sorry if i sound a bit outraged. (have to cool down).

As well you should be outraged.

Our civil war was about states' rights over dictates from the federal government. Perhaps it may be time for the populace of those sovereign nations to really enforce to the politicians/government that you don't wish to become a "Michigan" of the EU.

Thanks for understanding.

Still mad..

S977

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 90747 05-24-2012 05:05 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZVPWT92QBI

Ian R Crane is an ex-oilfield executive who now lectures, writes and broadcasts on the geo-political webs that are being spun; with particular focus on US Hegemony and the NWO agenda for control of global resources. Primarily Ian focuses his attention and research on the geopolitical arena but has a deep personal interest in folklore, mythology and the cosmological belief systems of ancient and indigenous cultures. Ian returns to Red Ice to discuss the elite's game plan to destroy the world economy. We'll also discuss the culture of Goldman Sachs, which is focused on locking the masses into a materialistic mindset so they don't remember who they truly are. Ian explains the ultimate drive behind the scenes in this global game of monopoly. Later we talk about Iceland, Russia and Greece. Ian says the days of the private banking system are coming to an end.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 98050 05-24-2012 05:08 PM

sea Wrote:

Cajun111 Wrote:
sea Wrote:
People like me have complained for years that our country was going to be and already looking like america. Democratie is gone now that brussel has the staff. It is good that the pvv is sueing the current coalition, if they win then this will be reverted. Then we got a new election on 12 september and maybe the new coalition will turn it around, perhaps there is no doom for the people but doom for the current government.
Most people also seem to forget that the dutch helped brussel to become what is now. They did it without approval from the people, we knew it was going to backstab us, but they wanted to be at the top. Their ambition is our downfall.
You guys figured out that the government is a puppet to the Royal families that reign over both Belgium ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Belgium and the Netherlands? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of...etherlands Don't be mislead, they hold the REIGNS of POWER!!!

Are you dutch ?
Read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutio..._ministers

those rules don't apply; they're just there for show

is there something about "Bilderberg" you don't get??

S977

**Cajun111**

sea Wrote:

Cajun111 Wrote:
sea Wrote:
People like me have complained for years that our country was going to be and already looking like america. Democratie is gone now that brussel has the staff. It is good that the pvv is sueing the current coalition, if they win then this will be reverted. Then we got a new election on 12 september and maybe the new coalition will turn it around, perhaps there is no doom for the people but doom for the current government.
Most people also seem to forget that the dutch helped brussel to become what is now. They did it without approval from the people, we knew it was going to backstab us, but they wanted to be at the top. Their ambition is our downfall.
You guys figured out that the government is a puppet to the Royal families that reign over both Belgium ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Belgium and the Netherlands? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of...etherlands Don't be mislead, they hold the REIGNS of POWER!!!

Are you dutch ?
Read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutio..._ministers

No, Sea...I'm Cajun French American. Family arrived here in Mobile,Alabama,USA in 1608. I read enough of the article to understand, Royals use this diversionary tactic in every country the oppress. They lawfully hold no responsibility, but BEHIND the scenes, they are the 1's pulling the strings(purse strings, that is'...)