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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 80549 06-27-2012 05:23 PM

ĶĨĽĿŨМľŃǺŢľ Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
ĶĨĽĿŨМľŃǺŢľ Wrote:
"I don't believe that a person born in a 3rd world country has less value than someone born in the industrialized world"

Im not saying^^^^that. I mean if the average age of death say in Kenya(im not sure just for example) is 50 and in China is 80 the balance is messed up from that correct?

Absolutely. Statistically new births per capita are much higher if 3rd world countries, but fewer survive to adulthood, or live as long.

Ok so overpopulation is not a problem

That isn't exactly true. In 3rd world countries resources themselves are limited making a large population hard to sustain. The most basic lack is in potable water. As medical care improves due to international efforts, for example, more babies survive, but sans better access to fresh water more people are competing for what water is available for the long term.

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LoP Guest Wrote:

ĶĨĽĿŨМľŃǺŢľ Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
Absolutely. Statistically new births per capita are much higher if 3rd world countries, but fewer survive to adulthood, or live as long.

Ok so overpopulation is not a problem

That isn't exactly true. In 3rd world countries resources themselves are limited making a large population hard to sustain. The most basic lack is in potable water. As medical care improves due to international efforts, for example, more babies survive, but sans better access to fresh water more people are competing for what water is available for the long term.

So its a country by country problem and not worldwide(I know we send food and what not)

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 80549 06-27-2012 05:32 PM

ĶĨĽĿŨМľŃǺŢľ Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
ĶĨĽĿŨМľŃǺŢľ Wrote:
Ok so overpopulation is not a problem

That isn't exactly true. In 3rd world countries resources themselves are limited making a large population hard to sustain. The most basic lack is in potable water. As medical care improves due to international efforts, for example, more babies survive, but sans better access to fresh water more people are competing for what water is available for the long term.

So its a country by country problem and not worldwide(I know we send food and what not)

To a degree population rates/ sustainability are fluid. However, some resources are imperiled universally such as water. While many would argue water is naturally recycling, the issue becomes potability, and availability for consumption. Water has become as valuable in terms of profitability and availability as gold, and this is not mere hyperbole. It is such a valuable commodity, that the world bank issued a memo advising water speculators to artificially manipulate availability. Their line of reasoning suggested this would act as a means to conserve water as well as a way to increase investor profit margins.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 103928 06-27-2012 05:41 PM

it's not overpopulation but the over abundance of stupid heads that makes eugenics attractive.

weed out the knuckle dragging mouth breathers.

**Red Red Whine**

Not in Australia. The govt pay people thousands to have a child. Octomum would have been set for life if she had those kids over here...no need for porning herself!

http://www.familyassist.gov.au/payments/...-bonus/#a1

Baby Bonus is paid per eligible child in 13 fortnightly instalments. From 1 July 2011, customers eligible to receive Baby Bonus will get a higher first instalment of $879.77 and 12 fortnightly instalments of approximately $379.77. The higher first instalment of Baby Bonus will assist with the upfront costs of having a new child.

You cannot receive Parental Leave Pay and a Baby Bonus payment for the same child. If you are eligible for both Parental Leave Pay and the Baby Bonus, you can access the Paid Parental Leave Comparison Estimator to help you make an informed decision about which payment to claim.

**Old Whatshisname**

I don't see anything wrong with eugenics, if by 'eugenics' you mean improving the organism by selective breeding or other forms of genetic manipulation. We've been doing it quite successfully with plants and animals for millennia now.

Actually, we've been practicing eugenics with ourselves for millennia as well, by choosing our mates (or having our mates chosen) for physical and physiological characteristics such as looks, strength, speed, cunning, etc.

And I would have certainly jumped at the chance to have ensured a better future for my children, if by genetic engineering I could eliminate susceptibility to disease and avoid any kind of physical weakness or genetic-related emotional or mental problems. What parent wouldn't?

The only problem I have with such is forced eugenics, where a single person or a group of people, operating under the guise of the State, say how or whether you can improve your kids' future.

Here's the intro from http://www.eugenics.net

"Future Generations is about humanitarian eugenics. Humanitarian eugenics strives to leave a genuine legacy of love to future generations: good health, high intelligence, and noble character. We advocate measures to improve the innate quality of humankind which are entirely voluntary.

Please be forewarned that most ideas expressed on this website are 'politically incorrect.' We aspire to total honesty, believing that it is the only policy for people with integrity, and furthermore, that in the long run, honesty is far-and-away the most compassionate policy. If we ever hope to solve the problems which face our species, it's imperative that we first look at them objectively, and assess the scientific evidence without bias. If the truth about genetics and behavior, about eugenics, or about race, is considered 'taboo,' and falsehoods are the only socially acceptable opinions, then this is truly a sad state of affairs, but we won't let it deter us."

I don't have any problem with that.

**The Evil AC** I am not a number!!! User ID: 666 06-27-2012 06:05 PM

As long as i get the stamp of approval.... I am ll for it, but if I must be culled then no its an evil concept

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 101624 06-27-2012 06:06 PM

Joe Neubarth Wrote:

With a world that is heavily overpopulated, many are calling for population reductions globally. That, of course, begs the question who should be killed or at least denied the right to procreate?

Personally, I do not know the politically correct answer, but the actual issue is one of Eugenics.

Here is an article that points out that modern governments are looking at Eugenics in new light.

http://thenewamerican.com/culture/faith-...-in-europe

odd that they are talking about Down's kids and eugenics in the same article, and you about population. first of all, Down's kids aren't really a bad breeding problem, just an extra copy of a chromosome thrown in. it's caused by an environmental problem, which is generally that the mother, and her eggs, are old. further, this problem is caused by societal pressures which appear to be engineered. this pressure is for people to get their educations, all the way up to the graduate level, before getting married. and then, once married, spend a few years establishing the career before having a child. by this time, a woman's most fertile years have passed her by, and it's only worse for the more intelligent. by the time she's 35, not only is fertility low, but the risk of having a trisomy 21 child is unacceptable.

so what about fertility of Down's people? they are generally infertile. pair up males and females, and it goes almost to zero. who could ask for a more natural, humane eugenics than that? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_syndrome#Infertility

so what is this really about? it's not about overpopulation. it's about getting rid of people considered a drain on your time and resources. it's about convenience. the nazis did it for this reason, it was efficient. hard to take over the world when you've got to babysit.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 103855 06-27-2012 06:13 PM

It's bad for you and good for me. Jhikpghf

**haskins**

EUGENICS
I will accept the right to end my own life if terminal
and I wish not to make big pharma rich just to get a few months or a year more
won't support killing healthy
will not support telling folks they can or can't breed...
well unless its congress we are talking about Jhikpghf

then yeah..sterilize them all..today Jhikpghf

and frontal lobotomy's fer all Jhikpghf

**Trollasaurus Wrecks**

LoP Guest Wrote:

All non-aryans will be killed off by Kalki - it is prophesied in the Padma Purana. Then strict eugenics ('enoblement') will be applied -- selective breeding as well as genetic engineering. And thus man will be perfected.

fucktard quote of the day!

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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 104925 06-27-2012 07:20 PM

Trollasaurus Wrecks Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
All non-aryans will be killed off by Kalki - it is prophesied in the Padma Purana. Then strict eugenics ('enoblement') will be applied -- selective breeding as well as genetic engineering. And thus man will be perfected.

fucktard quote of the day!

Don't get mad 'cause you won't make the cut, fucktard! Ocjkqdgf

This is how its going to be and there's nothing you can do about it! (Except throw your little hissy-fit)

Crybaby

**Trollasaurus Wrecks** · (This post was last modified: 06-27-2012 07:22 PM by Trollasaurus Wrecks.)

LoP Guest Wrote:

Trollasaurus Wrecks Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
All non-aryans will be killed off by Kalki - it is prophesied in the Padma Purana. Then strict eugenics ('enoblement') will be applied -- selective breeding as well as genetic engineering. And thus man will be perfected.

fucktard quote of the day!

Don't get mad 'cause you won't make the cut, fucktard!

This is how its going to be and there's nothing you can do about it! (Except throw your little hissy-fit)

another one! your on a roll today. I bet you roll alot don't you? lick glass and eat paintchips? I bet they will study you before they kill you.

**dig**

Some people just shouldn't have kids, in humanities case, that's most of the entire population.
Still,.... here we are.

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**Twatwaffle** lop guest User ID: 104948 06-27-2012 07:35 PM

Proponents of eugenics tend to either forget or merely casually fail to mention the rather important issue of genetic diversity.

The less genetically diverse a population is, the more susceptible it is to failure, which in this case means extinction.