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Early history of the Koch brothers
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03-10-2011 08:12 AM

 



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Early history of the Koch brothers
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To understand what happened, one must begin with Charles Koch. He and his brothers inherited an oil business from their father, Fred Koch, a stalwart of the John Birch Society and long active in rightwing causes. They developed and massively extended the family business, to the extent that Charles Koch and his brother David rank among the wealthiest people in the United States. On the current Fortune 400 list, the brothers are 9th and 10th, each with $17 billion; if the net worth of the brothers is taken together, the Kochs are second only to Bill Gates and Warren Buffett.

Charles, influenced from an early age by the pro-capitalist beliefs of his father, became interested in libertarianism. He attended Robert LeFevre's Freedom School and became acquainted with the work of Murray Rothbard. He met Rothbard and was so impressed with him and his ideas that he decided to endow an organization to promote libertarian theory and policies.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/gordon/gordon37.html

Part 2
http://www.lewrockwell.com/gordon/gordon39.html
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ButtonsAren'tToys
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RE: Early history of the Koch brothers
Robert LeFevre was also famously a pacifist, and taught his brand of libertarianism during the 1960s at the Freedom School, later Rampart College. Brian Doherty summed up the insights of LeFevrean lectures as delivering "the universal law that if you trespass on someone else's property, you'll make him mad, and you wouldn't want that, would you?" Although often forgotten by libertarians today, LeFevre "preached a thoroughgoing pacifism that held it to be an impermissible violation of the property rights of an assailant to destroy the ropes he'd tied you up with (just so long as they were his ropes) and just as bad to take a necklace back from a blackguard who stole it from you as it was for the blackguard to take it from you in the first place.

Given his dedication to pacifism, LeFevre also spoke out against war as a product of the state. He once gave a speech called "Prelude to Hell" to a local Lions Club about what it would be like for a typical American city to get nuked as a result of "those mighty, terrible, pointless conflicts that the modern state inevitably creates." According to Doherty, LeFevre was "capable of facing down angry lieutenant colonels, who raged at his pacifistic refusal to fight for the flag, and explaining his theory of human rights so patiently, so guilelessly, that in the end the crusty colonel had to admit that LeFevre was right to stand his ground."

According to Robert Smith, LeFevre became convinced of the power of non-violent resistance after a run-in with a union. "I remember him telling the story," says Smith, "of union goons busting into a radio station he worked at. And he just fell flat on the ground and lay there. They were so nonplussed they walked out without beating the shit out of him. That convinced him of the principles of nonviolence." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_LeFevre

and then there's Murray Newton Rothbard (March 2, 1926 – January 7, 1995) was an American individualist anarchist, author, and economist of the Austrian School who helped define modern libertarianism and popularized a form of free-market anarchism he termed "anarcho-capitalism". Rothbard wrote over twenty books and is considered a centrally important figure in the American libertarian movement.

Building on the Austrian School's concept of spontaneous order, support for a free market in money production and condemnation of central planning, Rothbard advocated abolition of coercive government control of society and the economy. He considered the monopoly force of government the greatest danger to liberty and the long-term well-being of the populace, labeling the State as nothing but a "gang of thieves writ large"—the locus of the most immoral, grasping and unscrupulous individuals in any society.

Rothbard concluded that all services provided by monopoly governments could be provided more efficiently by the private sector. He viewed many regulations and laws ostensibly promulgated for the "public interest" as self-interested power grabs by scheming government bureaucrats engaging in dangerously unfettered self-aggrandizement, as they were not subject to market disciplines. Rothbard held that there were inefficiencies involved with government services and asserted that market disciplines would eliminate them, if the services could be provided by competition in the private sector.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_Rothbard
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03-10-2011 09:06 AM

 



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RE: Early history of the Koch brothers
There is an on-going BOYCOTT of products associated with these
right-wing oligarchs.

Check it out:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sourc...4&aql=&oq=
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03-10-2011 09:16 AM

 



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RE: Early history of the Koch brothers
They learned their business practices from their father...

Who was SO corrupt that he was banned from doing business in the US.

And then he started selling oil to the Nazis.
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03-10-2011 10:25 AM

 



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RE: Early history of the Koch brothers
Sadly, the monopoly powers of government were needed to offset the monopoly powers of corporations, but the corporations prevented that by corrupting the governments so that those government powers were theirs to use to further enslave the populace.

That is a vast oversimplification of what happened in the modern fascist countries, the united states, england, and italy. Left out is the role of the career military, and intelligence agencies, who chose the path of enslaving people abroad, the law enforcement agencies, the homeland security agencies, and the numerous other bureaucratic agencies who made themselves useful by spying on and interfering with the lawful activities of citizens at home.

There is an entire ecology of abusive groups, public and private, who prey on the innocent citizenry of the world, in lieu of actually doing productive work themselves.
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Bump

well why is it then, that these people are hailed by the right wing as hero's?
I find that really strange....

like
does the right wing really not pay attention to who is running their show?
How can they all believe it's really God who is in control when clearly it's the Koch Brothers?

chuckle
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RE: Early history of the Koch brothers
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RE: Early history of the Koch brothers
The Roots of Stalin in the Tea Party Movement

The Koch family, America's biggest financial backers of the Tea Party, would not be the billionaires they are today were it not for the godless empire of the USSR.
April 17, 2010


The Tea Party movement's dirty little secret is that its chief financial backers owe their family fortune to the granddaddy of all their hatred: Stalin's godless empire of the USSR. The secretive oil billionaires of the Koch family, the main supporters of the right-wing groups that orchestrated the Tea Party movement, would not have the means to bankroll their favorite causes had it not been for the pile of money the family made working for the Bolsheviks in the late 1920s and early 1930s, building refineries, training Communist engineers and laying down the foundation of Soviet oil infrastructure.

The comrades were good to the Kochs... http://www.alternet.org/economy/146504/t...age=entire
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RE: Early history of the Koch brothers
NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (03-11-2011 06:11 AM)
The Roots of Stalin in the Tea Party Movement

The Koch family, America's biggest financial backers of the Tea Party, would not be the billionaires they are today were it not for the godless empire of the USSR.
April 17, 2010


The Tea Party movement's dirty little secret is that its chief financial backers owe their family fortune to the granddaddy of all their hatred: Stalin's godless empire of the USSR. The secretive oil billionaires of the Koch family, the main supporters of the right-wing groups that orchestrated the Tea Party movement, would not have the means to bankroll their favorite causes had it not been for the pile of money the family made working for the Bolsheviks in the late 1920s and early 1930s, building refineries, training Communist engineers and laying down the foundation of Soviet oil infrastructure.

The comrades were good to the Kochs... http://www.alternet.org/economy/146504/t...age=entire

They are an ignorant lot.

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They also stold much of their wealth by skimming from their pipelines.

For that they payed a 25 million dollar fine and went on with their filthy ways.
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RE: Early history of the Koch brothers
ButtonsArentToys  Wrote: (03-10-2011 11:27 PM)
well why is it then, that these people are hailed by the right wing as hero's?
I find that really strange....

like
does the right wing really not pay attention to who is running their show?
How can they all believe it's really God who is in control when clearly it's the Koch Brothers?

Most of the organized right wing opposes libertarianism. Even the watered down libertarianism of the Koch brothers calls for eventual gambling, prostitution and drug legalization, all totally unacceptable to the religious right.

As far as libertarians are concerned having some billionaires funding your movement beats not having a pot to piss in, so the Koch's idiosyncracies are tolerated.
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