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Easy Religion in a Nutshell
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Saxon777  Eagle Wing Stretches User ID: 1387 05-11-2011 12:12 AM
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RE: Easy Religion in a Nutshell
FreedomStands Wrote:"There is only one God who has all power absolutely.
So Very True.
FreedomStands Wrote:This God alone can harm or benefit anyone.
Well, it seems we've already parted ways, as the above statement is not talking about the One God stated above. The "god" we're talking about here is typically Set/Lucifer who has spread his "identity" most everywhere on this earth.
FreedomStands Wrote:The harm is to be avoided, the benefit is to be sought. This can be done through goodness (charity) and worship of the One God."
If you're hoping to avoid having your "god" Truly hurt you, then you need to get up off of those worshiping knees PRONTO!! (just get up off of them anyway, God HATES groveling)
FreedomStands Wrote:If one asks what the qualities of the One God are, they are as follows:
"God is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient. This means that God has all power and control over everything absolutely, is absolutely everywhere surrounding/encompassing everything inside and out and is infinite in size, and knows/hears/sees/remembers everything everywhere in everyway."
Wasn't all this pretty much covered in..."There is only one God who has all power absolutely."?
FreedomStands Wrote:Further qualities are that "This God is free from limitations,
Again, this is not God, this is "god", typically Set/Lucifer. God is limited by Love. He/She does all KINDS of crazy shit when it comes to Love. Love is Their MERCILESS task master.
FreedomStands Wrote:is infinite, unlike anything, and can not be contained.
True in a sense while implying a misconception.
FreedomStands Wrote:This God is in the image of nothing,
God has "become" Male and Female as fits the entirety of "It's" initial Creation. It's a Love manifestation thing.
If you want to know why, read this. It's short and to the point:
http://z14.invisionfree.com/Dream_Expedi...topic=2795
FreedomStands Wrote:everything is immersed in this God entirely. This God animates everything in existence and all events, and all actions are powered and sustained by this God."
So much for free will eh? So how many puppet hands does "god" have exactly?
Faithful and True
Ophiuchus....The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
Saxon Saxon and MORE Saxon---->Saxon's Writings Link
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 05-11-2011 12:21 AM
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RE: Easy Religion in a Nutshell
ButtonsArentToys Wrote:FreedomStands Wrote:We've covered most things I think. Does anyone have any questions about anything?
yes
I'm curious to know how old you are
or does the question have to be religious?
How young do you think I am? I'm really curious to know! Do you have any opinions about what I've written in the initial article and throughout the discussion?
You can absolutely ask anything, even off topic things. Every comment helps the topic.
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 05-11-2011 12:37 AM
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RE: Easy Religion in a Nutshell
Saxon777 Wrote:FreedomStands Wrote:"There is only one God who has all power absolutely.
So Very True.
FreedomStands Wrote:This God alone can harm or benefit anyone.
Well, it seems we've already parted ways, as the above statement is not talking about the One God stated above. The "god" we're talking about here is typically Set/Lucifer who has spread his "identity" most everywhere on this earth.
FreedomStands Wrote:The harm is to be avoided, the benefit is to be sought. This can be done through goodness (charity) and worship of the One God."
If you're hoping to avoid having your "god" Truly hurt you, then you need to get up off of those worshiping knees PRONTO!! (just get up off of them anyway, God HATES groveling)
FreedomStands Wrote:If one asks what the qualities of the One God are, they are as follows:
"God is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient. This means that God has all power and control over everything absolutely, is absolutely everywhere surrounding/encompassing everything inside and out and is infinite in size, and knows/hears/sees/remembers everything everywhere in everyway."
Wasn't all this pretty much covered in..."There is only one God who has all power absolutely."?
FreedomStands Wrote:Further qualities are that "This God is free from limitations,
Again, this is not God, this is "god", typically Set/Lucifer. God is limited by Love. He/She does all KINDS of crazy shit when it comes to Love. Love is Their MERCILESS task master. 
FreedomStands Wrote:is infinite, unlike anything, and can not be contained.
True in a sense while implying a misconception.
FreedomStands Wrote:This God is in the image of nothing,
God has "become" Male and Female as fits the entirety of "It's" initial Creation. It's a Love manifestation thing.
If you want to know why, read this. It's short and to the point:
http://z14.invisionfree.com/Dream_Expedi...topic=2795
FreedomStands Wrote:everything is immersed in this God entirely. This God animates everything in existence and all events, and all actions are powered and sustained by this God."
So much for free will eh? So how many puppet hands does "god" have exactly? 
Thank you so much for taking the time to read through what I've written, I really appreciate it. Sorry if I've accidentally promoted Set.
EXPLAINING GOD THROUGH REASON
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Easy-Rel...a-Nutshell
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 05-11-2011 12:39 AM
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RE: Easy Religion in a Nutshell
LysaStrata Wrote:FreedomStands Wrote:But is it really fair to say "God does this" when it is unknown if God does whatever we are claiming in regards to pets and babies?
The Bible is very clear. We do not have to guess because He has told us the details.
The only thing that is unclear (to you) is if the Bible came from God.
I will give you something on the Tyre prophecy in just a minute...
Feel free to post any more articles or comments, I really appreciate all of them, and it adds to the value of this thread as a whole. Thank you so much for all your help!
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 05-11-2011 01:00 AM
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RE: Easy Religion in a Nutshell
Thank you.
Do you think this is wrong:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypsistarians
After describing his difficulties with mainstream religion, Goethe laments that
...I have found no confession of faith to which I could ally myself without reservation. Now in my old age, however, I have learned of a sect, the Hypsistarians, who, hemmed in between heathens, Jews and Christians, declared that they would treasure, admire, and honour the best, the most perfect that might come to their knowledge, and inasmuch as it must have a close connection to the Godhead, pay it reverence. A joyous light thus beamed at me suddenly out of a dark age, for I had the feeling that all my life I had been aspiring to qualify as a Hypsistarian. That, however, is no small task, for how does one, in the limitations of one's individuality, come to know what is most excellent?[1]
EXPLAINING GOD THROUGH REASON
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 05-11-2011 01:30 AM
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RE: Easy Religion in a Nutshell
So what do you believe qualifies a person for the Kingdom of Heaven, and what must they believe?
The monotheism of Zeus and other similar monotheists existed through central asia and countries connected to Greece as well. The early Zoroastrians who were also a possible influence were also monotheists believing in the one God Ahura Mazda whose qualities were the same in general as to those I described in the initial article.
The reason the article was called "Easy Religion in a Nutshell", was to show some of the common qualities in monotheistic belief systems.
The question is, does one who worships the one God by another name, fail for doing so? Isn't the one God aware of everyone, and would count to their credit their efforts?
What is the essential religion? To me, it seems that the most important elements have been monotheism and worship. If one masters the concept of monotheism and performs worship, do you think that they will be blamed or obliterated?
I'm not suggesting that every religion is ok, or that people just picking and choosing is enough, but what do you think?
EXPLAINING GOD THROUGH REASON
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Easy-Rel...a-Nutshell
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 05-11-2011 01:43 AM
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RE: Easy Religion in a Nutshell
LysaStrata Wrote:We have discussed the Biblical story conversationally. If you are struggling with the basic belief and the "story", I find this is far more helpful than a bunch of Bible verses that don't really "speak" to you.
But I have HEAPS of stuff typed up. I was just looking through my "Bible" file in Word and I have sooo much. Outlines of the Abrahamic Promise and the Davidic Promise, Death, Baptism, Names of God, Hope of Israel, law and grace, temptation and sin, prayer and forgiveness.
I don't want to just plonk a bunch of info on here that no one wants.
My best friend is trying to get me to put it all on a blog so it is accessible. But time is hard to come by for such a big project.
I truly don't mind if you put it all here and use this thread as your initial page that you can link people to in order to see some of your excellent writing.
EXPLAINING GOD THROUGH REASON
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Easy-Rel...a-Nutshell
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 05-11-2011 01:51 AM
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RE: Easy Religion in a Nutshell
LysaStrata Wrote:FreedomStands Wrote:So what do you believe qualifies a person for the Kingdom of Heaven, and what must they believe?
The monotheism of Zeus and other similar monotheists existed through central asia and countries connected to Greece as well. The early Zoroastrians who were also a possible influence were also monotheists believing in the one God Ahura Mazda whose qualities were the same in general as to those I described in the initial article.
The reason the article was called "Easy Religion in a Nutshell", was to show some of the common qualities in monotheistic belief systems.
The question is, does one who worships the one God by another name, fail for doing so? Isn't the one God aware of everyone, and would count to their credit their efforts?
What is the essential religion? To me, it seems that the most important elements have been monotheism and worship. If one masters the concept of monotheism and performs worship, do you think that they will be blamed or obliterated?
I'm not suggesting that every religion is ok, or that people just picking and choosing is enough, but what do you think?
I did spend a lot of time following this line of thinking back... maybe 10+ years ago.
I was very hung up (then) on the idea of universal salvation. I wanted God to want everyone. A lot of psychology and philosophy had convinced me that we all have supreme value and that ultimately, we aren't really even responsible for our own (bad) actions. You know---the idea that even criminals were made that way by unfortunate life events---and if only they had better parents or didn't grow up in a ghetto, their lives would have been different.
But it is kind of like the talented class at school. It is for the smart kids. It's not mean that the average kids are excluded.
God only wants a specific kind of person. There will be a lot of rejection. There is no universal salvation.
And why should there be? God requires ACTION (ignore all that TV religion where they say all you have to do is "believe"--excuse me? if you believe, that means you will WANT to do the action)
What about all the people who have studied and sacrificed in their own lives to become the kind of person that God wants? Should their effort be rendered meaningless due to some kind of politically correct policy that says everyone should get a trophy?
Monotheism is a starting place. It is at least on the right track!!! Step 1 can be checked off on your sheet.
But now you must move on to step 2 and 3 and 4 etc.....
My BF (secular jew) has been into a variety of new age type stuff. God is love, love each other, big fat happy everything etc.
My comment to her was that sounds too good to be true.
Don't you think God is more precise than that? Look at the precision in creation.
If that is truly the way, then any additional work is not going to knock you off the path. But what if more work is required? Do you want to show up without your homework completed? (you won't be resurrected without responsibility--knowledge of the offer)
I think you do believe in God. Where it seems you struggle is finding the correct avenue to reach Him.
Do you think it is merely coincidence that this thread has produced these replies from me? You believe that God is in everything--perhaps He is using me to get this message to you?
Those who earnestly seek will find.
I agree that this thread is important and contains an important message.
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 05-11-2011 01:59 AM
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RE: Easy Religion in a Nutshell
Can you show me again some things from the Bible that clearly indicate that babies and animals (specifically for each) cease to exist or have no souls or anything similar to that?
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 05-11-2011 02:01 AM
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RE: Easy Religion in a Nutshell
Also where it says that people who haven't received the message cease to exist and other similar things.
I'm asking because someone who is viewing this thread also wants to know again, and I thought you could help me answer their question!
So they would like to know where it says that people cease to exist, some aren't ressurected or judged, animals don't have souls or cease to exist, and babies cease to exist.
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(This post was last modified: 05-11-2011 02:02 AM by FreedomStands.)
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Saxon777  Eagle Wing Stretches User ID: 1387 05-11-2011 02:06 AM
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RE: Easy Religion in a Nutshell
FreedomStands Wrote:Saxon777 Wrote:FreedomStands Wrote:"There is only one God who has all power absolutely.
So Very True.
FreedomStands Wrote:This God alone can harm or benefit anyone.
Well, it seems we've already parted ways, as the above statement is not talking about the One God stated above. The "god" we're talking about here is typically Set/Lucifer who has spread his "identity" most everywhere on this earth.
FreedomStands Wrote:The harm is to be avoided, the benefit is to be sought. This can be done through goodness (charity) and worship of the One God."
If you're hoping to avoid having your "god" Truly hurt you, then you need to get up off of those worshiping knees PRONTO!! (just get up off of them anyway, God HATES groveling)
FreedomStands Wrote:If one asks what the qualities of the One God are, they are as follows:
"God is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient. This means that God has all power and control over everything absolutely, is absolutely everywhere surrounding/encompassing everything inside and out and is infinite in size, and knows/hears/sees/remembers everything everywhere in everyway."
Wasn't all this pretty much covered in..."There is only one God who has all power absolutely."?
FreedomStands Wrote:Further qualities are that "This God is free from limitations,
Again, this is not God, this is "god", typically Set/Lucifer. God is limited by Love. He/She does all KINDS of crazy shit when it comes to Love. Love is Their MERCILESS task master. 
FreedomStands Wrote:is infinite, unlike anything, and can not be contained.
True in a sense while implying a misconception.
FreedomStands Wrote:This God is in the image of nothing,
God has "become" Male and Female as fits the entirety of "It's" initial Creation. It's a Love manifestation thing.
If you want to know why, read this. It's short and to the point:
http://z14.invisionfree.com/Dream_Expedi...topic=2795
FreedomStands Wrote:everything is immersed in this God entirely. This God animates everything in existence and all events, and all actions are powered and sustained by this God."
So much for free will eh? So how many puppet hands does "god" have exactly? 
Thank you so much for taking the time to read through what I've written, I really appreciate it. Sorry if I've accidentally promoted Set.
No apology necessary, being that the image of "god" in the world is pretty much based on his wide spread views and teachings. The big give-a-way is the whole desiring worship thing as well as the "do what I say or I'll KILL you thing".
Faithful and True
Ophiuchus....The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
Saxon Saxon and MORE Saxon---->Saxon's Writings Link
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 05-11-2011 02:11 AM
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RE: Easy Religion in a Nutshell
Saxon777 Wrote:FreedomStands Wrote:Saxon777 Wrote:So Very True.
Well, it seems we've already parted ways, as the above statement is not talking about the One God stated above. The "god" we're talking about here is typically Set/Lucifer who has spread his "identity" most everywhere on this earth.
If you're hoping to avoid having your "god" Truly hurt you, then you need to get up off of those worshiping knees PRONTO!! (just get up off of them anyway, God HATES groveling)
Wasn't all this pretty much covered in..."There is only one God who has all power absolutely."?
Again, this is not God, this is "god", typically Set/Lucifer. God is limited by Love. He/She does all KINDS of crazy shit when it comes to Love. Love is Their MERCILESS task master. 
True in a sense while implying a misconception.
God has "become" Male and Female as fits the entirety of "It's" initial Creation. It's a Love manifestation thing.
If you want to know why, read this. It's short and to the point:
http://z14.invisionfree.com/Dream_Expedi...topic=2795
So much for free will eh? So how many puppet hands does "god" have exactly? 
Thank you so much for taking the time to read through what I've written, I really appreciate it. Sorry if I've accidentally promoted Set.
No apology necessary, being that the image of "god" in the world is pretty much based on his wide spread views and teachings. The big give-a-way is the whole desiring worship thing as well as the "do what I say or I'll KILL you thing". 
I agree that God doesn't need worship, nor does worship benefit God in any way, but how do you show your love and reverence for God and God's power?
EXPLAINING GOD THROUGH REASON
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Easy-Rel...a-Nutshell
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Humble Soul Registered User User ID: 18523 05-11-2011 04:10 AM
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FreedomStands Registered User User ID: 14247 05-11-2011 04:31 AM
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Humble Soul Registered User User ID: 18523 05-11-2011 04:59 AM
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RE: Easy Religion in a Nutshell
Freedom Stands Wrote:Thank you so much for sharing these notes, you've really written an immense amount, and its all really fascinating! Thank you!
God is amazing....
God is creation....
WE are His creation....
ALL good things commith from God....
In the beginning..God created the Heavens and the Earth...
And it was "GOOD"...
All of creation,that God created was good....
Geniuses......
Only God is good.....
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