Post: #1036

NME  Wrote:

FreedomStands  Wrote:

I even deeply consider and meditate about the sad ending of certain episodes of some shows that end in sad ways!

Yeah, there is some beauty in that sometimes--when it's not cheesey. :D

Yeah! I also think just about any sentence, or maybe even any word's meanings can be meditated on deeply and one might come to some very interesting understandings.

Post: #1037

Smilin Eyes  Wrote:

Man, Buzz is about half a head or so shorter but got a good square punch in the jaw on that young whipper snapper. Guess he must have taken his Geritol that day.

Question is, why didn't Buzz just put his hand on the stupid bible and say "There, I swear I walked on the moon, now go away."

Bible says not to swear yet people take oaths and vows using the Bible:

James 5:12
Above all, my brothers, do not swear--not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. Let your "Yes" be yes, and your "No," no, or you will be condemned.

alternative translation:

But most of all, my brothers, never take an oath, by heaven or earth or anything else. Just say a simple yes or no, so that you will not sin and be condemned.

Matthew 5:34-37
But I say to you, Do not take an oath at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God,
or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. And do not take an oath by your head, for you cannot make one hair white or black.
Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.

Post: #1038

I saw a movie called In the Mouth of Madness, and I enjoyed it!

Post: #1039

Now I'm going to go back and read all pages from the start and try to better organize the information and include more of the things from later in the thread.

Post: #1040

Pretty overwhelming.

Post: #1041

Watching these H.P. Lovecraft things and reading about it, I realize so much of Western Occult stuff derives from European people finding "Eastern" things creepy.

Post: #1042

Will you impose a "one world" culture that only agrees with one set of ideas and imposes them upon everyone by making other cultural practices illegal?

I don't think stunning is a big deal or whatever, and killing animals is always rough, but imposing cultures across the globe is one style of eugenics. Be careful which side you choose.

When they strip away your freedom to practice your religion and make it illegal, that is just another loss for all people.

When they are killing the animals I think they mention God and that is what makes it "ritual". They don't give the animal to God to eat, they just say that they are killing this animal in the name of God and thanking God for the animal.

They can stun though, I don't know where in their religion it says not to stun, but I guess they've practiced it this way for many centuries so they want to continue.

It isn't the biggest deal on earth. The big deal is white washing away all the cultures of the world. Try to understand the danger.

Post: #1043

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-62lFq1NHU

Another love song to "Lucifer" the "Morning Star"

You'll see the "Lord of the Flame" behind her, and the falling star, falling to Earth which is a representation of Satan falling to Earth.

You can watch it muted to this music for a fun effect:
http://www.teagames.com/games/alienocalypse/play.php

Post: #1044

Easy Religion in a Nutshell!

Post: #1045

If there is a God, there is no reasonable expectation we would have anything close to a remote understanding of its existence. The only explanations are offered by other humans, mostly in antiquity, some in the past few decades, who claim to have some exclusive communion with this entity, and are now sharing with us what this reclusive being wished to communicate. That's all, folks.....really?

Post: #1046

BadMoon  Wrote:

If there is a God, there is no reasonable expectation we would have anything close to a remote understanding of its existence. The only explanations are offered by other humans, mostly in antiquity, some in the past few decades, who claim to have some exclusive communion with this entity, and are now sharing with us what this reclusive being wished to communicate. That's all, folks.....really?

What matters is that our life span is limited and our only choice is to try to best secure an appropriate future for ourselves. To take actions that cover the most bases without transgressing the most limitations.

It doesn't matter about not understanding God. We're going to die, and nothing is known to us about our deaths or what happens. Instead of sitting around and "waiting to see", it might be best to give paving a path with good deeds a try to see if it counts for anything.

If it doesn't, well at least you tried and died having done good, and if it does, then you succeed.

You were not brought into life by your own decision as far as anyone knows, nor was it your parents decision, nor do we even know what animates all life and experience. I call that which animates everything God.

My only objective is to seek benefit from God, as there is no other reasonable alternative. I do not want to seek harm, nor do I want to risk it by sitting around and "waiting to see if its a lie or not".

So to seek benefit from God, in the hope that God appreciates all the generations of worship that people have done in the same way, and all the good people do in the hope of God's reward.

Post: #1047

God, as defined by me and many ancient cultures, is not a man in the sky as artistic interpretations have made it out to be.

God as defined by me is that which animates all experience and motion, that which supports the Universe and expands it and will likely collapse it.

God is what the Universe is supported by, is within Ultimately.

"Nothing" doesn't exist. To say that "Nothing" exists would be the most certain lie. If "Nothing" existed, so to would "Nothing" still exist.

This is because "Nothing" can't do anything, can't bring anything into being, can't support the existence of anything. Only "Nothing" can be within "Nothing" and there can not be anything, not black, not white, just pure nothing.

"Nothing" never existed and can't exist.

When, if there was ever "Nothing" there was still "Something", and the proof of that is this Universe. That is not to say that the Universe always was here, but certainly there was that essential thing that we are within that was always here, beyond any measurements of time, the only thing that ever is and ever was. That is what I call God.

That which we are within, that which supports the universe, animates it, puts everything into motion, keeps it in motion, if it were to cease to exist so too would everything else cease to exist because even the framework of the Universe depends on that essential "something" that I call God.

You may think it is distant, but it is nearer than your own jugular vein, this is because the very fabric of reality is made of it, supported by it, animated by it, existing because of it.

It is "active" and it is "alive" because if it was not, there wouldn't be anything moving or existing at all anywhere.

Now the question is, can it hear you and does it care.

You are left with two options. Try to work on the assumption that it does hear you, or wait until you die.

The latter option is for risk takers who don't really believe at all, they may be in for a nasty surprise, if indeed those "fairy tales" from antiquity prove to be true.

The former option is the only choice anyone really has if they want to see if something works. So talk to it. Appreciate it. Worship it. It is what controls the movement of your cells ultimately, the movement of everything. It controls your life and every event that can possibly happen in the Universe. Before the limited Universe, there was only It, and It was infinite and unending, nothing to confine it, no borders, it is all there is, The One.

It is all around you, inside of you, you are completely immersed. You interact with it daily, in order to breath, to move, to think, to walk, to blink. Take advantage of it, if you can, and what could be the harm in taking advantage of it. Use it for your own benefit, because death is guaranteed. Try to make a home for yourself after death, if there is such a thing.

So what people have done, in ages past, and even to this day, is pray. They pray, they worship, they prostrate before the infinite power of The One, and they show their gratitude and appreciation. Everything that exists, every possible thing you can possibly think of, was made available by this One. If the possibility didn't already exist, it wouldn't be possible to even conceive of whatever thought.

They worshipped it and gave their thanks, regularly, throughout the day, knowing that it controlled their life entirely, that they were at it's mercy. They felt satisfaction in this practice, and they treated it with the most reverence and love. All the best praise belongs to it, because it is the only power, everything else depends on it, it is the Ultimate One.

They prayed to it to spare them from hardship, and when hardship came, they prayed to it for relief. They sincerely hoped it could hear them, as it was so near, never far, and they hoped ardently for a gift in the end for all their good work.

Now, there are those who sat back and did nothing, and they died just the same as those who did good in the name of the Ultimate One. The results of this gamble are unknown, but the one who tried has more likelihood of winning than the one who put forth nothing in this regard.

It may be that in the end, that neither receives anything and simply cease to exist.
There may be in the end a possibility that could not be anticipated for and is thus arbitrary.

The only possibility is to put forth something as the ancients did, not to assume they are all ignorant fools just because today we feel we are superior, to recognize the advanced theology held by the cultures of the world, the amazing information they may have had, to worship the God, and die doing good, and hope for the best.

Post: #1048

What is reclusive about a being that is right before you and surrounding you everywhere? So frequently do you interact with it, that you take it for granted entirely. The latter expectations deceive. The one who expects a body, a station, limitations, boundaries, borders. God is not some seperate being in a form out in the Universe somewhere. If anything has a form, it is supported by the one which sustains all forms and realities. Things with forms are infinitely small. You're completely immersed in God right now, interacting with God every moment of your life, awake and asleep. There is not a moment of your experience that is without God. God is the least reclusive being, the only being, the being which gives all beings their being.

Post: #1049

So we awake to a world that we did not apparently create, left with a choice with the end approaching.

Every culture in the whole world had a concept of God that was relatively the same, and it was surprisingly more advanced than people might expect, with more recent (and insulting) conceptions being that of a man-form God in the Universe somewhere.

So even the concept of God was, and is still not reclusive.

Practically everyone in the whole world has heard of God in some way, has heard of the God who punishes and rewards, the God that one prays to in order to receive things, or is protected by.

If one researches even a little more deeply than the surface impressions, one will find the same concept around the world, the God which pervades and animates existence itself, the God which supports reality.

Just because you can't and will never "see" the God as independent of reality, doesn't mean that the God doesn't exist at all. If it did appear as independent of reality, it is merely a form, just like any form, and all forms are supported by God, they are not God. Nor is reality as a whole God, because reality as a whole could be wiped away in an instant, and there would be nothing but God, the Ultimate, the One Power.

It is this God that people in the past prayed to and worshipped around the world in the same fashion. It is this God that went by many different titles and epithets in different cultures. It is this God that people acknowledged from as soon as they could understand, until the day that they died.

You certainly "see" the God's actions every moment of your life, even in your sleep. There is not a moment where you are not being communicated to and receiving experiences from this God.

You can sit back till the end to see if all the ancients were liars, though it is a major risk, or you can worship as they ancients did, show your gratitude through reverence and thanks, take advantage of the God through prayer and a feeling of support and safety in God, and finally pave your way with good works to your credit in the hope that God knows and appreciates good conduct as was traditionally believed throughout the ages through many cultures, and that you recieve a reward for it.

Post: #1050

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb3iPP-tHdA