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Economic collapse scenario
Johntaraz
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Post: #1
Economic collapse scenario
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/6365690/Protoc...-Al-Martin

The article is Protocols for Economic Collapse in America -- Protocol 6900 series.

This is an article from 2007? or so. I was concerned about the coming financial crisis and stumbled across it back in 2008.

Now that things are heating up again financially, I think it is a good read for the uninformed to consider if it starts looking like a worst case scenario. For instance if the markets start having 1000 point losses in a day.

It really caught my attention because I wanted to know what might happen if the US defaulted on it's debt or there was an economic collapse.

It is about what the government response would be and market response would probably look like in the case of an economic meltdown.

The writer seems to have some inside the beltway experience and knowledge and relates information that you don't come across in the Wall St. Journ.

It is a very interesting read if you are curious or concerned about our financial future. It has lingered in my consciousness since reading it, and my expectations of what will happen in a sudden economic collapse are based on its context.

If things get bad enough, and there is a loss of faith in the markets and/or the dollar that becomes a contagion, things could unravel rather quickly. Read it and consider yourself informed.

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Edit:added 12-24-11
I will continually update this thread with useful information about economic collapse scenarios. Useful and interesting information that pertains to how a collapse may occur, what to expect, how to prepare, survive, or adapt to the situation.

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Post: #2
RE: Economic collapse scenario
Getting close to bedtime, bumping this up to read over the weekend.


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Stone Soup
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Post: #3
RE: Economic collapse scenario
I read this the other day. I made mental notes, just in case the scenario in the document started to play out.

Thank you.

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Post: #4
RE: Economic collapse scenario
FORCE MAJEURE BITCHEZ!

learn it
know it
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Post: #5
RE: Economic collapse scenario
in the meantime...

...with the debt crisis real time movie

(drama)

House Speaker John Boehner cries
someone hugs him
more crying

we have a deal AMERICA!

YAY!

let the good times roll peasants!
eat your peas bit*hes!

abCNN MSNBCbs and FOX approve!


in reality
cee lo says f*#k you

middle class = f*#k you too
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Stone Soup
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RE: Economic collapse scenario
floydian slip  Wrote: (07-29-2011 10:41 AM)
in the meantime...

...with the debt crisis real time movie

(drama)

House Speaker John Boehner cries
someone hugs him
more crying

we have a deal AMERICA!

YAY!

let the good times roll peasants!
eat your peas bit*hes!

abCNN MSNBCbs and FOX approve!


in reality
cee lo says f*#k you

middle class = f*#k you too

I can see that. It's all about the sheeeeooooow.

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RE: Economic collapse scenario
Stone Soup  Wrote: (07-29-2011 10:43 AM)
I can see that. It's all about the sheeeeooooow.

CheerCheerCheer

/nancy pelosi - we need to raise the debt ceiling to find out whats underneath it!
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Stone Soup
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RE: Economic collapse scenario
floydian slip  Wrote: (07-29-2011 10:47 AM)
Stone Soup  Wrote: (07-29-2011 10:43 AM)
I can see that. It's all about the sheeeeooooow.

CheerCheerCheer

/nancy pelosi - we need to raise the debt ceiling to find out whats underneath it!

Jptdknpa

AND

Popcorn

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Terpentin
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Post: #9
RE: Economic collapse scenario
Thx for the link, reply for later reading.

I remember you 2 I think, good to see you here.
Its always helpful if folks keep their nick.
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Johntaraz
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Post: #10
RE: Economic collapse scenario
In a previous report titled Homeland Security To “Regionalize” Emergency Supplies Over Next 90 Days, we pointed out that FEMA, headed by Department of Homeland Security, is decentralizing emergency supplies from one main distribution facility in Washington D.C. to fifteen regional facilities around the country. Even the Russians and the EU are in high gear. Russia has reportedly begun planning and development of 5,000 new underground bunkers for the city of Moscow scheduled for completion no later than 2012. The EU, in 2006, commissioned the building of a "Doomsday Seed Vault" in a mountainside several hundred feet above sea level. The facility was built and fully stocked with millions of seeds from around the world within 18 months.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/slavo/slavo23.1.html

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Johntaraz
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Post: #11
RE: Economic collapse scenario
Written by Raven Clabough
Tuesday, 07 December 2010 11:35
0Skeptics who continue to assert that the economic plight of the United States has been overstated need not look further than the Pentagon to find out just how wrong they are. CNBC has learned that the Pentagon is currently playing out “war games” pertinent to an American economic meltdown.

According to CNBC, “The Pentagon is planning for real economic threats to America.”

CNBC’s Business News analyst Eamon Javers explains:

Ever since the crash of 2008, the Defense Intelligence establishment has really been paying a lot of attention to global markets and how they could serve as a threat to U.S. National security interests. At one upcoming seminar that we’re going to see here next month, they’re going to be taking a look at a lot of the issues … [including] the use of sovereign wealth funds to manipulate markets, currencies; nation state economic collapse, sovereign default, nation state instability; U.S. Allies’ budgets, deficits, national security infrastructures.

Similarly, the Army has launched an operation called “Unified Quest 2011” in which it studies the “implications of ‘large scale economic breakdown’ inside the United States that would force the Army to keep ‘domestic order amid civil unrest.'” The Quest also trains the Army in how to “deal with fragmented global power and drastically lower budgets.”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/pol...c-collapse

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Johntaraz
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RE: Economic collapse scenario
Results of Economic Reforms


"Gorbachev Factor"By the early 1990s, as a result of Gorbachev’s self-styled economic reforms, the Soviet economy was in worse shape than in 1985. Freed from some of the coercive pressures of the past, the system of central planning eroded without adequate free-market mechanisms to replace it. In an environment of universal shortages and general confusion, state enterprises used their newly found freedom to reduce planned output, to drop low-priced products from production, and to raise prices under the guise of new products. All this added to inflation and exacerbated the perennial shortage of consumer goods. Empty shelves, longer lines, and increased distribution through special channels and on the black market became widespread.





Because there was no longer effective control from Moscow at the republic and local levels, rising nationalism, ethnic strife, and regionalism fragmented the economy into dozens of mini-economies. Many republics within the Soviet Union sought independence, others sovereignty, and they all pursued policies of economic self-isolation. Barter was widespread. Goods and food rationing systems had to be set up: Ukraine introduced coupons, and Moscow issued ration cards. By 1990 the Soviet economy had slid into near-paralysis, and this condition foreshadowed the fall from power of the Soviet Communist Party and the breakup of the Soviet Union itself into a group of independent republics in 1991.
http://www.allrussias.com/soviet_russia/...oika_9.asp

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vintagevixen
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RE: Economic collapse scenario
So should I take my little savings out and bury it in the backyard or what?

and if the dollar collapses will it be a moot point?

Off topic, we've got three major CME's heading our way tomorrow so I filled up my car and took some cash out.

Not losing any sleep over it but you never know

Just an fyi

hehee

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Johntaraz
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Post: #14
RE: Economic collapse scenario
This is an excerpt from a guy who describes the Argentinian economic crisis of 2000-2002. He provides lots of practical advice, stories, and details about what it was like and what to expect.
It may not become like this, it may be different or worse. Nevertheless it is an interesting read if you are curious of what may lay ahead.

"Someone once asked me how did those that live in the country fare. If they were better off than city dwellers. As always there are no simple answers. Wish I could say country good, city bad, but I can’t, because if I have to be completely honest, and I intend to be so, there are some issues that have to be analyzed, especially security. Of course that those that live in the country and have some land and animals were better prepared food-wise. No need to have several acres full of crops. A few fruit trees, some animals, such as chickens, cows and rabbits, and a small orchard was enough to be light years ahead of those in the cities. Chickens, eggs and rabbits would provide the proteins, a cow or two for milk and cheese, some vegetables and fruit plants covered the vegetable diet, and some eggs or a rabbit could be traded for flower to make bread and pasta or sugar and salt.

Of course that there are exceptions, for example, some provinces up north have desert climate, and it almost never rains. It is almost impossible to live of the land, and animals require food and water you have to buy. Those guys had it bad; no wonder the northern provinces suffer the most in my country. Those that live in cities, well they have to manage as they can. Since food prices went up about 200%-300%. People would cut expenses wherever they could so they could buy food. Some ate whatever they could; they hunted birds or ate street dogs and cats, others starved. When it comes to food, cities suck in a crisis. It is usually the lack of food or the impossibility to acquire it that starts the rioting and looting when TSHTF.

When it comes to security things get even more complicated. Forget about shooting those that mean you harm from 300 yards away with your MBR. Leave that notion to armchair commandos and 12 year old kids that pretend to be grown ups on the internet.

Some facts:

1) Those that want to harm you/steal from you don’t come with a pirate flag waving over their heads.

2) Neither do they start shooting at you 200 yards away.

3) They won’t come riding loud bikes or dressed with their orange, convict just escaped from prison jump suits, so that you can identify them the better. Nor do they all wear chains around their necks and leather jackets. If I had a dollar for each time a person that got robbed told me “They looked like NORMAL people, dressed better than we are”, honestly, I would have enough money for a nice gun. There are exceptions, but don’t expect them to dress like in the movies.

4) A man with a wife and two or three kids can’t set up a watch. I don’t care if you are SEAL, SWAT or John Freaking Rambo, no 6th sense is going to tell you that there is a guy pointing a gun at your back when you are trying to fix the water pump that just broke, or carrying a big heavy bag of dried beans you bought that morning."
http://billstclair.com/clairewolfe.com/w...g/arg.html

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Johntaraz
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Post: #15
RE: Economic collapse scenario
vintagevixen  Wrote: (08-05-2011 05:58 AM)
So should I take my little savings out and bury it in the backyard or what?

and if the dollar collapses will it be a moot point?

Off topic, we've got three major CME's heading our way tomorrow so I filled up my car and took some cash out.

Not losing any sleep over it but you never know

Just an fyi

hehee

vv
Sounds like prudent actions.
I try to inform myself the best I can and prepare to the extent that it seems right and that I can afford.
I have been following the economic, earth changes, geo-political news and situation since 1998. I have never been as convinced that things are quite precarious as they are at the moment.
I would rather be safe than caught off guard, unprepared, and cause my family any suffering that could have easily been avoided with a little preparation.
Try not to forget that life goes on and there is much good in the world, especially when we contribute.
And I should fill up the tank tomorrow -- thanks for that reminder
Have a good one vv

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