If you don't believe in sorcery and such, I wouldn't worry too much about this thread.

To understand it better, I recommend Dion Fortune's Psyhic Self-Defense and Applied Magic where she talks at length on the generation of group elementals.

Basically, we begin with the fact that all group activities generate a group elemental which in turn eventually takes over dominion of the group when proper precautions are not made (and trust me, no one but initiates make takes such precuations). Now, add the lack of legal or regional responsibility that multinational corporations enjoy and you have a recipe for the generation of nonhuman entities with no alleigance to anyone or anything except short term profit. Human are mere resources to be used and cast aside.

Now, the interesting question for sorcerors, or more properly in this case, perhaps, magicians, is that as elementals with strong identities, these entities could theoretically be summoned, and perhaps controlled by the enterprising wizard, to his/her own or humanty's benefit.

Your thoughts?

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

If you don't believe in sorcery and such, I wouldn't worry too much about this thread.

To understand it better, I recommend Dion Fortune's Psyhic Self-Defense and Applied Magic where she talks at length on the generation of group elementals.

Basically, we begin with the fact that all group activities generate a group elemental which in turn eventually takes over dominion of the group when proper precautions are not made (and trust me, no one but initiates make takes such precuations). Now, add the lack of legal or regional responsibility that multinational corporations enjoy and you have a recipe for the generation of nonhuman entities with no alleigance to anyone or anything except short term profit. Human are mere resources to be used and cast aside.

Now, the interesting question for sorcerors, or more properly in this case, perhaps, magicians, is that as elementals with strong identities, these entities could theoretically be summoned, and perhaps controlled by the enterprising wizard, to his/her own or humanty's benefit.

Your thoughts?

Morning TM
I dunno mate , Do we want Elementals "running" around wall street or the City? I'd say that would make the work-force uneasy and reduce profit.

Control of others is a coincidental illusion.
It always comes back to bite you.

This is an interesting idea.

Lots to think about.

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Control of others is a coincidental illusion.
It always comes back to bite you.

As always. But, we're not talking about controlling people here. We're talking a out controlling elementals that control people.

Sadly, such a game is not for me. I've become the most powerful of sorcerers by taking a Taoist approach to the world. I let the world do what it's going to do, and I will not lift a finger to stop it. I have moved beyond the guilt prison to the land of I don't care...

Which leaves me nothing to do with my vast power. Comical really.

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Control of others is a coincidental illusion.
It always comes back to bite you.

As always. But, we're not talking about controlling people here. We're talking a out controlling elementals that control people.

Semantics.
The intent is the catalyst, which is why the adepts do not act on the behalf of humanity.

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Control of others is a coincidental illusion.
It always comes back to bite you.

As always. But, we're not talking about controlling people here. We're talking a out controlling elementals that control people.

Semantics.
The intent is the catalyst, which is why the adepts do not act on the behalf of humanity.

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

Sadly, such a game is not for me. I've become the most powerful of sorcerers by taking a Taoist approach to the world. I let the world do what it's going to do, and I will not lift a finger to stop it. I have moved beyond the guilt prison to the land of I don't care...

Which leaves me nothing to do with my vast power. Comical really.

I just use mine to be first in the queue for lifes Good Stuff TM, and then share it with those at the back of the queue. I couldn't find f*ck all else to do with it.....

Richard Eldritch  Wrote:

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

Sadly, such a game is not for me. I've become the most powerful of sorcerers by taking a Taoist approach to the world. I let the world do what it's going to do, and I will not lift a finger to stop it. I have moved beyond the guilt prison to the land of I don't care...

Which leaves me nothing to do with my vast power. Comical really.

I just use mine to be first in the queue for lifes Good Stuff TM, and then share it with those at the back of the queue. I couldn't find f*ck all else to do with it.....

See, I won't even lift a finger to help myself, Rich. It's the only way to acheive ultimate power. To not use it. The exception I grant myself is art. And I barely write anymore, and when I do, I avoid corporate publication (I'm a novelist of some note, or at least I was).

I stand happily at the back of the queue...doing nothing.

Diana Highnight  Wrote:

Richard Eldritch  Wrote:

I just use mine to be first in the queue for lifes Good Stuff TM, and then share it with those at the back of the queue. I couldn't find f*ck all else to do with it.....

See, I won't even lift a finger to help myself, Rich. It's the only way to acheive ultimate power. To not use it. The exception I grant myself is art. And I barely write anymore, and when I do, I avoid corporate publication (I'm a novelist of some note, or at least I was).

I stand happily at the back of the queue...doing nothing.

One of the reasons I lost interest in leaving my body was the baggage allowance was crap and Ghosts don't tan.....