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Evidence of Advanced Machining In Ancient Egypt
tethys
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Evidence of Advanced Machining In Ancient Egypt
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In memory of the passing of Zecharia Sitchin I post this thread. The matters he raised have never been addressed by mainstream archaeology.

http://www.gizapyramid.com/Mehler%20New%20Article.htm

We will be able to present all this evidence that an advanced indigenous civilization once existed where Egypt is today—a culture capable of cutting, shaping, lifting and placing in precise geometrical arrangement, the hardest of stone found on our planet, utilizing highly sophisticated and technically superior methods and procedures. I urge anyone interested in this line of research to come to Egypt with me and observe the evidence firsthand for themselves.
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the atlanteans. the pleiades. the dogon. the martian monuments. etc.

i don´t think primitive man was able to do advanced physics without a written language...

they had some help.
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RE: Evidence of Advanced Machining In Ancient Egypt
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-26-2010 01:24 PM)
the atlanteans. the pleiades. the dogon. the martian monuments. etc.

i don´t think primitive man was able to do advanced physics without a written language...

they had some help.
I don´t think primitive man was able to do advanced physics.

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RE: Evidence of Advanced Machining In Ancient Egypt
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (10-26-2010 02:23 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-26-2010 01:24 PM)
the atlanteans. the pleiades. the dogon. the martian monuments. etc.

i don´t think primitive man was able to do advanced physics without a written language...

they had some help.
I don´t think primitive man was able to do advanced physics.



that's nice.


You also think there are no chemtrails.

chuckle
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RE: Evidence of Advanced Machining In Ancient Egypt
Vicious  Wrote: (10-26-2010 02:24 PM)
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (10-26-2010 02:23 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (10-26-2010 01:24 PM)
the atlanteans. the pleiades. the dogon. the martian monuments. etc.

i don´t think primitive man was able to do advanced physics without a written language...

they had some help.
I don´t think primitive man was able to do advanced physics.



that's nice.


You also think there are no chemtrails.

chuckle

It's the hat.chuckle
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RE: Evidence of Advanced Machining In Ancient Egypt
f*#k yeah I'll pin this ...
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RE: Evidence of Advanced Machining In Ancient Egypt
Another site you may be interested in is Puma Punku.
Quote:It is highly unlikely that any of the stones in Puma Punku were cut using ancient stone cutting techniques, at least not those that we are aware of.

The stones in Puma Punku are made up of granite, and diorite, and the only stone that is harder that those two, is the diamond. If the people who built this place cut these stones using stone cutting techniques, then they would had to have used diamond tools.

If they didn't use diamonds to cut these stones, then what did they use?

Not only were these stones really hard to cut, but they are also extremely heavy. One of these stone ruins weighs in at about 800 tons! These are big stones, and they are really heavy. The nearest quarry is at least 10 miles away from the site of the ruins. How in the world did these people move these blocks that weighed many tons, and how were they able to form a structure with them?

With the technology that we currently have today, it would be extremely difficult to recreate the site of these ruins, if possible at all. If we can't do it, then how did these ancient people accomplish this task? This could have taken place anywhere from 500 b.c. all the way back to the Ice Age.

These ancient people had to have been very sophisticated, knowing astronomy, geomancy, and mathematics. However, there are no records of this work. To build a place like Puma Punku, there must have been significant planning, and writing involved, but there is no record of any of this.
http://hubpages.com/hub/Ancient-Mysterie...Tiahuanaco


Lots of info is available on the web
http://www.google.com/search?q=Pumpa+puku

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumapunku

Some do argue that the stones could have been cut using techniques of the era:
Quote:The largest of these stone blocks is 7.81 meters long, 5.17 meters wide, averages 1.07 meters thick, and is estimated to weigh about 131 metric tons. The second largest stone block found within the Pumapunka is 7.90 meters long, 2.50 meters wide, and averages 1.86 meters thick. Its weight has been estimated to be 85.21 metric tons. Both of these stone blocks are part of the Plataforma Lítica and composed of red sandstone.[4] Based upon detailed petrographic and chemical analyses of samples from both individual stones and known quarry sites, archaeologists concluded that these and other red sandstone blocks were transported up a steep incline from a quarry near Lake Titicaca roughly 10 km away. Smaller andesite blocks that were used for stone facing and carvings came from quarries within the Copacabana Peninsula about 90 km away from and across Lake Titicaca from the Pumapunka and the rest of the Tiwanaku Site.[2][4]

Archaeologists argue that the transport of these stones was accomplished by the large labor force of ancient Tiwanaku. Several theories have been proposed as to how this labor force transported the stones although these theories remain speculative. Two of the more common proposals involve the use of llama skin ropes and the use of ramps and inclined planes.[8]

In assembling the walls of Pumapunku, each stone was finely cut to interlock with the surrounding stones and the blocks fit together like a puzzle, forming load-bearing joints without the use of mortar. One common engineering technique involves cutting the top of the lower stone at a certain angle, and placing another stone on top of it which was cut at the same angle.[3] The precision with which these angles have been utilized to create flush joints is indicative of a highly sophisticated knowledge of stone-cutting and a thorough understanding of descriptive geometry.[5] Many of the joints are so precise that not even a razor blade will fit between the stones.[9] Much of the masonry is characterized by accurately cut rectilinear blocks of such uniformity that they could be interchanged for one another while maintaining a level surface and even joints. The blocks were so precisely cut as to suggest the possibility of prefabrication and mass production, technologies far in advance of the Tiwanaku’s Incan successors hundreds of years later.[8] Tiwanaku engineers were also adept at developing a civic infrastructure at this complex, constructing functional irrigation systems, hydraulic mechanisms, and waterproof sewage lines.
Demonstration of the building block technique

To sustain the weight of these massive structures, Tiwanaku architects were meticulous in creating foundations, often fitting stones directly to bedrock or digging precise trenches and carefully filling them with layered sedimentary stones to support large stone blocks.[8] Modern day engineers argue that the base of the Pumapunku temple was constructed using a technique called layering and depositing. By alternating layers of sand from the interior and layers of composite from the exterior, the fills would overlap each other at the joints, essentially grading the contact points to create a sturdy base.[8][3]

Notable features at Pumapunku are I-shaped architectural cramps, which are composed of a unique copper-arsenic-nickel bronze alloy. These I-shaped cramps were also used on a section of canal found at the base of the Akapana pyramid at Tiwanaku. These cramps were used to hold the blocks comprising the walls and bottom of stone-line canals that drain sunken courts. I-cramps of unknown composition were used to hold together the massive slabs that formed Pumapunku's four large platforms. In the south canal of the Pumapunku, the I-shaped cramps were cast in place. In sharp contrast, the cramps used at the Akapana canal were fashioned by the cold hammering of copper-arsenic-nickel bronze ingots.[8][10] The unique copper-arsenic-nickel bronze alloy is also found in metal artifacts within the region between Tiwanaku and San Pedro de Atacama during the late Middle Horizon around A.D. 600-900.[11]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumapunku

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RE: Evidence of Advanced Machining In Ancient Egypt
Sorry I didn't see anything in those pictures that can't be done with hand tools.

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RE: Evidence of Advanced Machining In Ancient Egypt
NIKKI

PRODUCING A REGULAR LIMESTONE BLOCK WITH UNIFORM DIMENSIONS IS RELATIVELY EASY EVEN FOR A PRIMITIVE CULTURE. LOOK AT THE PYRAMIDS, MILLIONS WERE MADE AND TO A HIGH DEGREE OF ACCURACY.

HOWEVER

TO CUT AND SHAPE GRANITE BLOCKS LIKE THIS, SO PERFECTLY THAT THEY NOT ONLY INTERLOCK BUT ARE FULLY INTERCHANGEABLE IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT MATTER.

ON THE "SIMPLE" MATTER OF CUTTING, HOW DO YOU CUT A 2MM LINE OF UNIFORM DEPTH DEAD STRAIGHT IN MATERIAL NEARLY AS HARD AS DIAMOND.

A SIMPLE BOX OUT OF GRANITE IS A TOUGH PROPOSITION AND THE EXPERTS ARGUE HOW THAT WAS DONE.

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Nikki_LaVey  Wrote: (10-26-2010 06:17 PM)
Sorry I didn't see anything in those pictures that can't be done with hand tools.

Nikki you amaze me, for someone who claims to be such a liberal on various issues you can be as closed minded and bigoted as anyone I have ever come across.

I know the description closed minded is one we tend to reserve for someone else. But if the shoe fits ......

If you were asked “Are you closed minded?” the answer will almost certainly be a no. I don’t think anyone in the world sees themselves as closed minded. They are always skeptical or simply convinced that the other guy is wrong.


On this thread, there is no way to explain the fit of the stones at Puma Punku by claiming stone tools chipping away at granite and diorite. Get out of your safe little box of a mind and expand your brain cells a bit.

From the link
Quote:What Makes The Ruins Unique?

It is highly unlikely that any of the stones in Puma Punku were cut using ancient stone cutting techniques, at least not those that we are aware of.


The stones in Puma Punku are made up of granite, and diorite, and the only stone that is harder that those two, is the diamond. If the people who built this place cut these stones using stone cutting techniques, then they would had to have used diamond tools.

Quote:Interlocking Stones

There is one more significant thing to mention regarding the ruins of Puma Punku. Not only were these stones cut somehow, but they were finely cut. The cuts on these stones are perfectly straight. The holes cored into these stones are perfect, and all of equal depth.

Did you read the links or just look at the pretty pictures?

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Hi there, in the same vein, just an fyi - Thursday is the season premiere of Ancient Aliens on the History Channel.

Good fun there!


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RE: Evidence of Advanced Machining In Ancient Egypt
Just2Laws  Wrote: (10-26-2010 07:03 PM)
Nikki_LaVey  Wrote: (10-26-2010 06:17 PM)
Sorry I didn't see anything in those pictures that can't be done with hand tools.

Nikki you amaze me, for someone who claims to be such a liberal on various issues you can be as closed minded and bigoted as anyone I have ever come across.

I know the description closed minded is one we tend to reserve for someone else. But if the shoe fits ......

If you were asked “Are you closed minded?” the answer will almost certainly be a no. I don’t think anyone in the world sees themselves as closed minded. They are always skeptical or simply convinced that the other guy is wrong.


On this thread, there is no way to explain the fit of the stones at Puma Punku by claiming stone tools chipping away at granite and diorite. Get out of your safe little box of a mind and expand your brain cells a bit.

From the link
Quote:What Makes The Ruins Unique?

It is highly unlikely that any of the stones in Puma Punku were cut using ancient stone cutting techniques, at least not those that we are aware of.


The stones in Puma Punku are made up of granite, and diorite, and the only stone that is harder that those two, is the diamond. If the people who built this place cut these stones using stone cutting techniques, then they would had to have used diamond tools.

Quote:Interlocking Stones

There is one more significant thing to mention regarding the ruins of Puma Punku. Not only were these stones cut somehow, but they were finely cut. The cuts on these stones are perfectly straight. The holes cored into these stones are perfect, and all of equal depth.

Did you read the links or just look at the pretty pictures?

I was talking about the Pictures in OP's post as for groves like that the chinese use to do that with silk thread ... it took a life time o make one but they did it!

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RE: Evidence of Advanced Machining In Ancient Egypt
Nikki_LaVey  Wrote: (10-26-2010 06:17 PM)
Sorry I didn't see anything in those pictures that can't be done with hand tools.
Does that mean you don't believe in "chem-trails" either?chuckle

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RE: Evidence of Advanced Machining In Ancient Egypt
http://www.gizapower.com/Advanced/Advanc...ining.html

Long article but a worthwhile read, a number of points are raised, for instance - the distance between the grooves on the coffer inside the King's Chamber is approximately .050 inch.

In another part of the article he states -


I have contacted four precision granite manufacturers in the US and haven’t been able to find one who can do this kind of work.
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There is nothing you can say or show someone who doesn't want to hear or see.
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