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**Bad Rat**

A. R. K. Wrote:

Bad Rat Wrote:
A. R. K. Wrote:
Thanks!

Is there a good rat?

Oh, I am a good rat! Just a bit of sarcasm! My internet persona (and personal tastes in pets) have to do with rats, and since this is kind of my "weird" website, I'm Bad Rat here!
You sound like a leader in the race!

If you would like to get to know where I am coming from (and may have been) this thread would make a good introduction.

http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-NDEs-Son...d-Nonsense

Jhikpghf

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 110969 07-26-2012 05:26 PM

Aqua Wrote:

sounds rousing!

**LOPster Jesus**

So one question my friend, you have stated it and I have seen it mentioned many times before, about the 144,000 being saved at the end (well, from what you have said that is not quite accurate, but saved from temperance through a 12,000 year long firing is what I mean) but I am just curious what counts a person among those 144,000?

Can it really be that out of 7 billion people on the planet, only 144,000 are capable of keeping love in their hearts? I know people are misguided, but most folks do love their friends and family and life and planet, at least to some degree.

Like for instance, I grew up eating meat because that is what my folks grew up eating, that is what they fed me. I have gone through on and off phases for health reasons, but over the last few years I have realized it is wrong simply for the fact that plants give of themselves to nourish animals and people but there is no pain and suffering for them to do so. In the case of animals, there is much pain and suffering to do so.

As I dig into the Essenes and the actual direct teachings of Jesus, he forbade the eating of animals as he equated with human sacrifice basically. And he wanted to end sacrifices. So me, having eaten meat in my ignorance, I am now working to transition to a vegan diet both for health reasons and because I do not want to contribute to the suffering of other living creatures. In fact, I want to help alleviate such suffering.

But my point is, I have been wrong for a long time and I am now starting a journey to cleanse my body and spirit of all negativity and suffering I participated in, but does that mean I am not worthy of the 144,000? I guess if it was necessary for the evolution of my soul to cleanse through a 12,000 year earth kiln then I need to face up to it and accept it, but it sure is hard truth to swallow if it so. Would love to hear your thoughts on that friend. Thanks!

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 107962 07-26-2012 06:05 PM

flintstone Wrote:

so can someone paraphrase this and tell me in english what's going on? i don't wanna take another aderral

....More "New Age" bullspit covered w/bible spin to help make it believable... Trans_sign

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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 110717 07-26-2012 06:06 PM

interesting. and it certainly is that time.
Cheer

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 110717 07-26-2012 06:08 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

flintstone Wrote:
so can someone paraphrase this and tell me in english what's going on? i don't wanna take another aderral

....More "New Age" bullspit covered w/bible spin to help make it believable... =

i was going to blow it off as new agey.. and even tho it was decorated quite a bit, the essence of it, i knew is what is going down right now and about to manifest pretty much like OP said, any time now.

**A. R. K.**

LoP Guest Wrote:

flintstone Wrote:
so can someone paraphrase this and tell me in english what's going on? i don't wanna take another aderral

....More "New Age" bullspit covered w/bible spin to help make it believable... =

Actually at it's heart is pure perfect arithmetic.

But can you extrapolate it's living meanings from shape and number?

There is one 3d language of Light and Sound....there are many 2d languages.

Which one do you speak to understand reality in?

I can describe co-relative Truth biologically, cosmologically, arithmetically, allegorically, and scripturaly.

Perhaps you could help me add a new one =)

**A. R. K.** · (This post was last modified: 07-26-2012 07:43 PM by A. R. K..)

kettlnaut Wrote:

So one question my friend, you have stated it and I have seen it mentioned many times before, about the 144,000 being saved at the end (well, from what you have said that is not quite accurate, but saved from temperance through a 12,000 year long firing is what I mean) but I am just curious what counts a person among those 144,000?

Can it really be that out of 7 billion people on the planet, only 144,000 are capable of keeping love in their hearts? I know people are misguided, but most folks do love their friends and family and life and planet, at least to some degree.

Like for instance, I grew up eating meat because that is what my folks grew up eating, that is what they fed me. I have gone through on and off phases for health reasons, but over the last few years I have realized it is wrong simply for the fact that plants give of themselves to nourish animals and people but there is no pain and suffering for them to do so. In the case of animals, there is much pain and suffering to do so.

As I dig into the Essenes and the actual direct teachings of Jesus, he forbade the eating of animals as he equated with human sacrifice basically. And he wanted to end sacrifices. So me, having eaten meat in my ignorance, I am now working to transition to a vegan diet both for health reasons and because I do not want to contribute to the suffering of other living creatures. In fact, I want to help alleviate such suffering.

But my point is, I have been wrong for a long time and I am now starting a journey to cleanse my body and spirit of all negativity and suffering I participated in, but does that mean I am not worthy of the 144,000? I guess if it was necessary for the evolution of my soul to cleanse through a 12,000 year earth kiln then I need to face up to it and accept it, but it sure is hard truth to swallow if it so. Would love to hear your thoughts on that friend. Thanks!

Good question and important!

Okay so there are two saved groups at the opening of the 6th seal, the 144,000 and the uncountable multitudes from all nations, tribes, and tongues.

They are called The Many, The Victorious!

Quite possibly billions and the majority of humanity...we'll see who steps up to be saved. And all who do will be.

They are together in front of the Throne of the Lamb and spared his wrath.

I think the 144,000 are from before as in they've already perfected being a human previously, are of the Golden Ray already, and are here voluntarily to help the rest transit.

The rest are from all over the world and the most basic prerequisite is simple; to love your fellow human in your heart.

To be your brothers keeper.

So when the final light shear wall rolls through, after the 144,000 and the multitudes are gone, even the ones experiencing it have a chance to be spared the 12,000 year shadow in the bowels of the earth and join the souls in the new earth, one valence shell inwards towards the galactic center within it's 5d shell.

There are a more than adequate numbers of angelic stations, sometimes several assigned to one soul. They ferry the soul where it needs to go according to their perfect wisdom, power and instruction.

Oh and I still eat meat though that is stopping as well. Spirit pours through me to do Spirits job on the earth and my personal discipline although important, in no way stops it's works.

So it's not about physical perfection, well have 1000 years plus to get that right!

The most important thing is to get your heart and mind pointed correctly and to do good with your hands and feet.

I am sure you will be one of the Many!

And we will embrace heart to heart.

**A. R. K.**

To simplify the context of your question Kettlnaut:

It all comes back to that original first torus formed at "Let there be Light!"

It's perfectly straight internal upward flow of Morality.

So as long as you are pointed, if not already traveling in that direction, the increasingly braided Flow of the Light Wall, as it approaches, will propel you accordingly.

It also helps to be with and assisting many loving helping hearts!

It is the rising water, Love is the ark.

**TheLOVETroll**

A. R. K. Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
If they say to you: Whence have you come?, tell them: We have come from the light, the place where the light came into being through itself alone. It [stood], and it re- vealed itself in their image. If they say to you: Who are you?, say: We are his sons, and we are the elect of the Living Father. If they ask you: What is the sign of your Father in you?, tell them: It is a movement and a rest.

i can't remember who asks me this
but it comes after a long walk in a brightly lit hall
and a book i can't read
Book of the Gospel of Thomas saying 50.

Gospel of Thomas saying (22) Yahushua saw some little ones nursing. He said to his disciples, "These little ones who are nursing resemble is those who enter the kingdom." They said to him, "So shall we enter the kingdom by being little ones?" Yahushua said to them, "When you (plur.) make the two one and make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside and the above like the below, and that you might make the male and the female be one and the same, so that the male might not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye and a hand in place of a hand and a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image - then you will enter the Kingdom."

He could have said the Kingdom of God is a double bubble doughnut quin-torus but the apostles would either scratch their heads or laugh.

I suppose both reactions could be useful

You will all see as I draw out the 3d Equation in the vid, step by step, a movement and a rest, so that none are caused to stumble.

2...1.... Been getting that message.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 110962 07-26-2012 08:18 PM

That explains it all and regardless where I stand, comforts me.

Thank you.

**HOmeBOund** lop guest User ID: 65684 07-26-2012 08:29 PM

A. R. K. Wrote:

ĶĨĽĿŨМľŃǺŢľ Wrote:
Hey I am with ya buddy just wow.......*5 either way tho fight the good fight

My fight is over, God has won.

I'm here to spread the Victory of the Whole Truth with Indomitable Love and Incontestable Joy!

The Victory was established by our King long before I was brought onto the scene.

After I fire my arrow, most of my work will be gardening to prepare to receive and assist the ones who remember themselves and each other.

I await my King Messiah Yahushua with great joy and diligent service to my fellow Man.

We've all been momentarily distracted on a Grand Adventure!

Great point, for anyone interested in knowledge about this thread and living free, it can be found here ==> http://www.e-sword.net/

Start with the GNB or Good News Bible......you only need read 4 out of approx. 66 books to learn "The Good News of God's Grace"....Mathew, Mark, Luke and John are the titles......it is a free "Life After Death Insurance Policy".

"The Philosophy of Life" by the manufacturer of Life.....handed down to us via his Son.....Jesus Christ. You could say he delivered the Owners Manual to these Body/Soul/Spirit Machines we operate.

**A. R. K.** · (This post was last modified: 07-26-2012 08:36 PM by A. R. K..)

HOmeBOund Wrote:

Great point, for anyone interested in knowledge about this thread and living free, it can be found here ==> http://www.e-sword.net/

Start with the GNB or Good News Bible......you only need read 4 out of approx. 66 books to learn "The Good News of God's Grace"....Mathew, Mark, Luke and John are the titles......it is a free "Life After Death Insurance Policy".

"The Philosophy of Life" by the manufacturer of Life.....handed down to us via his Son.....Jesus Christ. You could say he delivered the Owners Manual to these Body/Soul/Spirit Machines we operate.

Good scripture!

Even more succinct is the Book of Jude.

Now that I know what I'm looking for and working with, all I need is the first chapter of Genesis ;)

Heartflowers

**FCL** lop guest User ID: 25575 07-26-2012 08:37 PM

I agree!

**A. R. K.**

ArchNemesis Wrote:

2...1.... Been getting that message.

Think of it in terms of our very thoughts, how we label and separrate things...especially concepts!!!

There is One Grand Operating Unified Whole, the One who is good alone...All-One, Luke 18:19.

The concept of God separate from Man, make the two, One.

Man separate from the earth, make the two, One.

Man separate from woman, make the two, One.

Them, us, make the two, One.

There is a natural fluency of relationship without the borders of mental containing.

The object is to stop separating and isolating everything you can wrap your mind around as separate spheres.

Everything is contained already inside One sphere, Heaven.

The object is to compress the mind into a toroidal flow vai compassion of the heart.

This is what God in the universe is already doing and Being at it's center.

As you turn toroidal a trans-scalar sympathetic resonant transfer of Being starts to take place and God lift you into You and He as One.

But you don't go anywhere, you become a New Creature ready for greater adventures and we all go together!

Hope this helps brother =)