Post: #1

It will just be painful to reboot a real economy.

The one we have, though sound prior to
1913 and based on the Constitution,
is no more legal now, than a Monopoly game board,
complete with printed money on cheap paper.

The economy we have represents nothing but
debt. The debt is incurred to the Federal Reserve
by the federal government.

The representatives of the Federal Government
assume the debt they owe is the responsibility
of The People to repay. False premise.
Otherwise called slavery.

The representatives of the Federal Government
extract taxes, fines and license fees from The People
as if that was their right. False premise.
Otherwise called robbery.

In a real economy, one thing of value is traded for
another of value and everyone produces something.
Trades can be marked with notes of value, meaning
everyone agrees, if you hand something of value
to another, that person can pay with notes that can
be traded to another for something else of value.

Every person manages their own trading ventures,
as an individual.

Banks should be just safehouses for keeping the notes
from the exchange of things of value.

Borrowing notes from a bank, so the bank can make
interest is the first step toward what we have now.

Borrowing a substitution of notes from a bank,
that it does not have, is what we have now, giving
banks the power to create creditors, it can then
control with interest rates.

When everyone is a financed, everyone is in the power
of the lender. This is called usury.

Everything of value is valued at the bidding of the bank.
The bank places a value on everything from homes to
cars to people (how fines are extracted by courts)

The bank has control over the government, because the
government is running a deficit to the bank, called the
Federal Reserve.

Businesses are controlled by the bank as well, and banks
decide the value of the oil under the sand in the foreign
nations who supply crude to the refineries in America. on
a daily basis. In this way, gas prices are manipulated as this
is the fundamental manipulation of the US economy.

Right now, the bankers, aka creditors aka slavemasters,
are printing money as well as creating it out of thin air
on computers. Each dollar they print represent a debt to
them, for whoever gets it, and the interest charged on each
dollar as a debt, is calculated by the minute, on the computers.

The debt will be spread around to the federal government and
downstream banks, as well as to the oil industry, and Wall Street.
While dollars as debt become more plentiful, they will represent
less and less value. As the debt mounts, everything of true
value will require more and more of the dollars which are
accruing interest at the computers of the bank.

This is a primer. Most stop here. I'm going to tell you for free,
how to escape the crash of the economy that the bankers are
causing, without all the rhetoric of who the bad guys are etc.

Post: #2

Outstanding!

Post: #3

debt is not real and land belongs to none and all

Post: #4

You won't be saying that when you wake up in a year and inflation is 100%

Post: #5

Step one.
Throw out all your current information about
banking and finance and investments. It's all based
on the usury system. It is all propaganda for the
usury system.

Step two.
Opt out from banks to the greatest degree possible.
An account is okay if that is the only way you can
collect your paycheck, but as soon as it is deposited
take it out.

At any moment two things can happen. The bank can
take it under new rules mandated by Barack Obama,
or, the bank can close making it unavailable, probably
forever.

Plan your expenditures as if you could lose a paycheck
to the bank, if that is the only way to get it at your company.

Step three.
If you have investments, withdraw them all in cash ASAP.

Step four.
Pay all balances to zero and credit cards and destroy them.

Step five.
Pay cash for everything, even cars. This will mean driving an
older car for most people, but that's okay. For homes, negotiate
private contracts, leases, 99 yr leases, or rent. There is also nothing
wrong with downsizing your home to something that can be moved.

Self contained campers can be parked in the national forest for
zero rent, as long as you don't stay longer than 16 days in one spot,
if that is an option.

When you negotiate a lease/rent contract, discuss the possibility of
alternate payments of something of value with your landlord if necessary.

Remember things of value include hunter gatherer stuff depending on
location.
furs/pelts, meat, domestic and wild, winter kill antlers, firewood from
dead down and dying trees, homeopathic remedies, etc.

Post: #6

Step six.
Remember that the feds will probably collapse the clouds.
Store necessary information in fireproof containers in hard copy.

Think about what value things like books will have sans electronic
devices, or blocked electronic devices.

Step seven.
If you can, buy silver in small quantities and gold, but realize,
by the end of a second Obama term, if you can't eat it or drink it,
it won't be worth as much.

Trade items likely to be of great value.
Whiskey and other alcohols.
Sugar.
Beans.
Potable water. (Means you can drink it)
Animal food.
Knives.
Reloading equipment for ammo.
Brass.
Rope.
Makeup/hair products. (Proved their worth in the great depression)
First aid kits and services, for broken bones, childbirth, etc.
Looms, fabrics, yarn, tanning equipment.

Post: #7

Yay!!! A solution !! Love it OP!!!

Post: #8

Step eight.
Begin now.
Manufacture something and market it.
Even if it's on your kitchen table or counter, and you sell
on the street corner.

No beginning for manufacturing is too humble, to small.

When you see some small success, expand.
When expansion starts to work, expand again.

Don't borrow money to do business.
Partnerships usually end up in one partner taking
everything and disappearing.

Post: #9

Vox  Wrote:

Yay!!! A solution !! Love it OP!!!

This should be pinned.

Post: #10

Your optimism is compelling but it is also quite worthless. The truth is we are f*cked no matter how you slice it. We're looking at either complete collapse or living under some sort of fascist, police state, regime. You can cross your fingers and hope for the best all you want, it won't alter the course we're on.

Post: #11

Step nine.
Be prepared to see complete and total failure of the
current economic system and to withstand that without
misery, depression or bitterness.

Be prepared to be one of those who restores it,
with the steps I've given you.

Be prepared to spend a period of time when the federal
government sends jackboots to try to shut you down, but don't give up
and don't give in. (They will be prepared to bribe you
back into slavery, resist) Their attempts won't last long.

Post: #12

Great ideas! This needs to be pinned!!

Post: #13

Step ten.
THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE US CONSTITUTION IS
TRAMMELED, IS THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE US ECONOMY
WILL FAIL.

Read it.
Understand it.
Hang a copy on your wall.
Live it.
Defend it.
Be free under it.
Pass it on.

The owners of this nation are the citizens who were born here,
who defend it, who work to make their lives in it.

So, make your life in it. Defend it. Own it.
You don't need permission.

Post: #14

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Your optimism is compelling but it is also quite worthless. The truth is we are f*cked no matter how you slice it. We're looking at either complete collapse or living under some sort of fascist, police state, regime. You can cross your fingers and hope for the best all you want, it won't alter the course we're on.

I'm giving you the answer to collapse, for reboot.
We are slaves under the current system.
Welcome collapse.
Retool for an economy of real value.

Post: #15

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