no one really wants to step up to the plate because then they become responsible. In the end, no one is reponsible because no one wants to be responsible. We can always blame something on some secret order or thing because it requires nothing of us.

Take for example the holocaust. There is no proof. You do understand that don't you? They have no proof that it occured, in fact all the scientific and historical evidence proves it did not happen. But that is a problem, because who is going to be the boy who says the emperor has no clothes?

It is alarming the honest people who always believed in it and then looked into it, scoured the evidence in an honest manner and then found out it was a pile of crap. They suddenly find themselves having to confront a world of unreality, which is the world you all live in.

How do you think it feels to live in a world where everybody believes the world is flat, and you can be prosecuted, haressed, maligned or attacked for saying it is round? Either stick to reason, science, all the higher faculties, or deny the truth, deny reason, deny cause and effect, and lie and say things just happen for no reason, everything might just fly up into the sky one day for no discernible reason. To see people who should know better stammering lies and making honest people be incarcerated because they are honest?

Shocking? But that is the price others have to pay for either your ignorance or cowardice. Your choice, because you are either one or the other. And the threads will be closed, and the those who speak truth to power will be spat upon a calumnied against. But still they stand, because they can do no other.

I don't like living in a world of lies. I despise it. I don't like treading on a foundation of sand, where each foot fall threatens me with suffering because I will not tell lies.

My mother had to go to her grave believing lies. I can't stand for that. I can't stand for people I love passing over with lies others have nurtured in their breasts. Makes me ill, do you all hate reason and truth so much? My mother was an honest loving person and yet you covered her with lies. I don't like that. How are good people suppose to find a way to improve things when lies are the currency we use for our discourse. Just disgusting.

I don't know whether the truth will out. Having learnt the lies of this age, I doubt half the truth of the past, so it all becomes so much garbage. And that is the terror of an honest man, to always see lies triumph.

Just shocking.

you must be kidding me. you talk about reason and in the very next moment you deny the holocaust although there is evidence: concentration camps, death camps, witness reports (of people who even worked at those camps and played a big role in this whole death industry), piles of corpses, etc. maybe the amount of people who died in those concentration camps wasn't that high (or low - who knows?) - but that's not what it's all about: what happened in germany should be a memorial and warning to future generations to not underestimate social dynamics and the depth of man's mental abyss.

Where was the possibility for fuel to burn all those six million corpses in the middle of a war? Where was all the ash put? How about some modern forensics? You know at Nuremburg they also talked about electric conveyer belts that would electrocute the prisoners. Why bother about hair cuts to avoid lice, if they were just going to be killed? How about the Red Cross records? THE RED CROSS RECORDS!! How about prussian blue which forms when using Zyklon B, the blue staining is found on the delousing chambers but on NO supposed death chambers. How about the bars of soap made out of human fat and the lampshades made out of human skin, that suddenly were not when genetic testing became avaliable?

Like I said, ignorance or cowardice, and either one, you are killing this world and making it sick.

they didn't burned all of them... in fact most of them were buried in mass graves...
they cut their hair because they wanted to avoid lice because those people lived and worked under very crowded conditions. lice can transfer illness and they needed the manpower of those people till they were too weak to work and were executed....

like you said: ignorance or cowardice.

Then where are these mass graves of which you speak, because no one has found them. And also you testimony goes directly against testimony given and Nuremberg where yes they were burnt, that is what Holocaust means.

Ignorance and cowardice. You haven't even researched the topic yet you know everything about it, and you will recieve a slap on the back for not looking, for not questioning. You ignorance is your strength. Enjoy what is coming. You deserve it.

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Where was the possibility for fuel to burn all those six million corpses in the middle of a war? Where was all the ash put? How about some modern forensics? You know at Nuremburg they also talked about electric conveyer belts that would electrocute the prisoners. Why bother about hair cuts to avoid lice, if they were just going to be killed? How about the Red Cross records? THE RED CROSS RECORDS!! How about prussian blue which forms when using Zyklon B, the blue staining is found on the delousing chambers but on NO supposed death chambers. How about the bars of soap made out of human fat and the lampshades made out of human skin, that suddenly were not when genetic testing became avaliable?

Like I said, ignorance or cowardice, and either one, you are killing this world and making it sick.

they didn't burned all of them... in fact most of them were buried in mass graves...
they cut their hair because they wanted to avoid lice because those people lived and worked under very crowded conditions. lice can transfer illness and they needed the manpower of those people till they were too weak to work and were executed....

like you said: ignorance or cowardice.

Yeah, you know better than the Red Cross who was inspecting the camps... you people really are cattle.

Can I hijack your thread for a minute? I'm gonna

Or maybe not

Some retarded mutherfucker threatened to hit me in the head because I told him to do his job by giving him a measurement for a board that needed to be cut. Wow Imagine that!

The Son of a b*tch has two options I'm either going to kill him or fire him.
It is that simple. When he said that shit to me I was about to kill then. You know like when you make your mind up to do some thing. I was very close.....!!

For now I'm leaning toward find another cut man because this bastard has his head halfway up his ass or in the sky. One thing is for sure he don't have his mind on the job.

Bye! your FIRED! have a nice life.