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Fasciation in plants is not all that unusual...I have a collection of fasciated cacti and I find many plants can develop multiple growing points.

That doesn't mean that excessive radiation didn't cause these anomolies, it definitely could. But damage to plants growth buds can be caused by insect damage, frost damage and just screwy genetics can also cause this fascinating fasciation.

Fasciated cactus:

sorry but that thing is ugly.

hey...its really not THAT ugly, i guess U get used to it after awhile, huh?
ive never seen a cactus like that before...wow.

eclipsed  Wrote:

sorry but that thing is ugly.

No apologies needed, I think they are 'ugly' too. I just find ugly is, in this instance, interesting and worth collecting. It's no different than admiring grossly bred dog breeds like pugs, or cats like persians. Some have a taste for the bizarre.

Here is a fasciated specimen seen next to a normal barrel cactus, 'Echinocactus Grusonii' :



Is this so different than what corals in the ocean look like? It's a common meme of nature:

Astrochik  Wrote:

State Officials In Alabama Close Gulf Shrimping After Scientists Find Severe Deformities

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Pretty sure that is from the BP spill.

Fasciation in plants is not all that unusual...I have a collection of fasciated cacti and I find many plants can develop multiple growing points.

That doesn't mean that excessive radiation didn't cause these anomolies, it definitely could. But damage to plants growth buds can be caused by insect damage, frost damage and just screwy genetics can also cause this fascinating fasciation.

Fasciated cactus:

the point is not that the cactus... dandelions, or whatever, are pretty or not...these dandelions are MUTATED - from fukushima radiation, and if it's effecting them, it's effecting US. Our kids, our food, etc. These are being found in areas that had high rates of fallout. The seeds they grew from were mutated. That's why they show up this year.

I'm sure a lot of plants and animals have mutations that were passed down, but I am not going to accept that we should let corporations like BP and TEPCO dictate what our kids and grand kids' mutations will be..

Most mutations are not beneficial.

if you had a Lamborghini, and replaced it's carburetor with, say, a brick, would it still be a car? It might look pretty much the same, but it's NOT. Same with the kids being born after Chernobyl, it's not pretty. It's tragic. I guess that aliens might look at some of the kids with brains growing outside their heads and think - hmmm, that's interesting, but I doubt anyone thinks it's GOOD.

I don't appreciate TEPCO (and every other source of radiation - man-made- on the planet) messing with my and my offspring's (and your) genetics.

Maybe we'll have fasciated humans next. Will they be "pretty"?

end of rant.

well, probably not!!

Astrochik  Wrote:

the point is not that the cactus... dandelions, or whatever, are pretty or not...these dandelions are MUTATED - from fukushima radiation, and if it's effecting them, it's effecting US. Our kids, our food, etc. These are being found in areas that had high rates of fallout. The seeds they grew from were mutated. That's why they show up this year.

I'm sure a lot of plants and animals have mutations that were passed down, but I am not going to accept that we should let corporations like BP and TEPCO dictate what our kids and grand kids' mutations will be..

Most mutations are not beneficial.

if you had a Lamborghini, and replaced it's carburetor with, say, a brick, would it still be a car? It might look pretty much the same, but it's NOT. Same with the kids being born after Chernobyl, it's not pretty. It's tragic. I guess that aliens might look at some of the kids with brains growing outside their heads and think - hmmm, that's interesting, but I doubt anyone thinks it's GOOD.

I don't appreciate TEPCO (and every other source of radiation - man-made- on the planet) messing with my and my offspring's (and your) genetics.

Maybe we'll have fasciated humans next. Will they be "pretty"?

end of rant.

well, probably not!!

Listen, what I am trying to say to you is that fasciation happens. It happens for a variety of reasons, some due to injury some, due to genetics, some just do it. I've seen it on Common Mullein, Dandelions, Moth Mullein, Daphne, a wide variety of weeds, garden plants and even trees.

Just because you see fasciation does not automatically mean radiation damage, although it could certainly be a cause.

I am living with a mass in my belly that started growing at an alarming rate in the months after the Fukushima disaster occurred. Since I live on the west coast and am outside day and night in the summer months I am sure I received and am still receiving a nice, tidy dose of radiation. I live with it every day and know up close and personal that we have real live doom on a world wide scale thanks to this egregious lack of common sense and classic corporate greed in Japan, Okey??

What I am saying, once again, that is not an automatic given that radiation is causing this. I am saying there are MANY reasons for fasciation, and radiation may or may not be the cause. Let's be accurate in our assessments and not fall into sensationalism and poor science. There is enough of that running around in conspiracy circles.

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Ghenghy  Wrote:

Fasciated Spam!

in twenty years, those will be normal dandelions...

This is heartbreaking. Dandelions helped save my life when I was deathly ill a few years ago and has remained a staple since. I only have about 4 lbs that were harvested pre fukushima left and they aren't going to last forever.