Post: #1

I know that you dont learn anything in school over there, but every normal american should know the history of their country.

And the historic fact is that your revolution would have failed if the french, dutch and Spain wouldnt have funded you and supplied you behind britains back.

France, Spain and the Dutch Republic all secretly provided supplies, ammunition and weapons to the revolutionaries starting early in 1776. After early British success, the war became a standoff. The British used their naval superiority to capture and occupy American coastal cities while the rebels largely controlled the countryside, where 90 percent of the population lived. British strategy relied on mobilizing Loyalist militia, and was never fully realized. A British invasion from Canada ended in the capture of the British army at the Battle of Saratoga in 1777. That American victory persuaded France to enter the war openly in early 1778, balancing the two sides' military strength. Spain and the Dutch Republic—French allies—also went to war with Britain over the next four years, threatening an invasion of Great Britain and severely testing British military strength with campaigns in Europe. Spain's involvement resulted in the expulsion of British armies from West Florida, securing the American southern flank. The decisive British naval victory at the Battle of the Saintes thwarted French and Spanish plans to drive Britain out of the Caribbean, and the joint Franco-Spanish attempt to capture the British stronghold of Gibraltar also resulted in similar defeat.


France ruined itself to help you,resulting in the emergence of Napoleon.

French involvement proved decisive[11] yet expensive, ruining France's economy and driving the country into massive debt.[12] A French naval victory in the Chesapeake led to a siege by combined French and Continental armies that forced a second British army to surrender at the Yorktown, Virginia in 1781. Fighting continued throughout 1782, while peace negotiations began. In 1783, the Treaty of Paris ended the war and recognized the sovereignty of the United States over the territory bounded roughly by what is now Canada to the north, Florida to the south, and the Mississippi River to the west.[13][14] A wider international peace was agreed, in which several territories were exchanged.

It wasnt your guns that gave you the edge, it was your allies.
Thats why if you half brained morons talk about a second revolution and you really think only guns decide the outcome of a war you are a real idiot.

You neither have the supplies,the infrastructure, the informations network,heavy weapons , training and all the other good stuff you need to fight a war.

You only have your trailer, a few guns and a minimal training.

"friendly fire" Bob and "collateral dmg" Jim will be a major help in your revolution.

So stop talking about a second revolution, cause you have absolutely no clue how many allies you had and what france had to do to save your sorry asses

Post: #2

The The Treaty of Alliance with France, was a defensive alliance between France and the United States of America, formed in the midst of the American Revolutionary War, which promised military support in case of attack by British forces indefinitely into the future. Delegates of King Louis XVI of France and the Second Continental Congress, who represented the United States government at this time, signed the treaty along with The Franco-American Treaty of Amity and Commerce at the Hôtel de Crillon in Paris on February 6, 1778[1] formalizing a Franco-American alliance that would technically remain in effect until 1800, and the signing of the Treaty of Mortefontaine,[2] despite being annulled by the United States Congress in 1798[3] and the execution of King Louis XVI during the French Revolution.


On March 17, 1778, four days after a French ambassador informed the British government that they had officially recognized the United States as an independent nation with the signing of The Treaty of Alliance and The Treaty of Amity and Commerce, England declared war on France directly engaging them in the American Revolutionary War.[9] French entry into the war would lead to further escalation of the war when Spain entered the fight against England as France's ally, after the signing of the Treaty of Aranjuez on April 12, 1779, and again in December 1780 when England declared war on the Dutch Republic after seizing a Dutch merchant ship they claimed was carrying contraband to France during the Affair of Fielding and Bylandt.[11] After the signing of the treaty French supplies of arms, ammunition, and uniforms proved vital for the Continental Army,[7] while their increased presence in the West Indies forced Britain to redeploy troops and naval units away from the North American colonies to secure their holdings in the Caribbean.[9] French involvement in the war would prove to be exceedingly important during the Siege of Yorktown when 10,800 French regulars and 29 French warships, under the command of the Comte de Rochambeau and Comte de Grasse respectively, joined forces with Gen.George Washington and the Marquis de Lafayette to obtain the surrender of Lord Cornwallis's Southern army, and effectively bringing an end fighting on the North American mainland for the remainder of the war. Despite efforts by Britain to negotiate separate treaties with their opponents in the American Revolutionary War, Spain, France, and the United States held together during their negotiations with England and concluded hostilities by signing the 1783 Treaty of Paris.[7]

Post: #3

Oh And btw, i have never heard Alex "the piggybank" Jones talk about that. He always says guns will help you, while it would most likely f*ck you over without allies

Post: #4

Ssssssh, they still be saying arse instead of ass if it wasn't for those frenchys rescueing them. ( how humilating must it be to be saved by the french..? )

Post: #5

Arch Phoenix  Wrote:

I know that you dont learn anything in school over there, but every normal american should know the history of their country.

And the historic fact is that your revolution would have failed if the french, dutch and Spain wouldnt have funded you and supplied you behind britains back.

France, Spain and the Dutch Republic all secretly provided supplies, ammunition and weapons to the revolutionaries starting early in 1776. After early British success, the war became a standoff. The British used their naval superiority to capture and occupy American coastal cities while the rebels largely controlled the countryside, where 90 percent of the population lived. British strategy relied on mobilizing Loyalist militia, and was never fully realized. A British invasion from Canada ended in the capture of the British army at the Battle of Saratoga in 1777. That American victory persuaded France to enter the war openly in early 1778, balancing the two sides' military strength. Spain and the Dutch Republic—French allies—also went to war with Britain over the next four years, threatening an invasion of Great Britain and severely testing British military strength with campaigns in Europe. Spain's involvement resulted in the expulsion of British armies from West Florida, securing the American southern flank. The decisive British naval victory at the Battle of the Saintes thwarted French and Spanish plans to drive Britain out of the Caribbean, and the joint Franco-Spanish attempt to capture the British stronghold of Gibraltar also resulted in similar defeat.


France ruined itself to help you,resulting in the emergence of Napoleon.

French involvement proved decisive[11] yet expensive, ruining France's economy and driving the country into massive debt.[12] A French naval victory in the Chesapeake led to a siege by combined French and Continental armies that forced a second British army to surrender at the Yorktown, Virginia in 1781. Fighting continued throughout 1782, while peace negotiations began. In 1783, the Treaty of Paris ended the war and recognized the sovereignty of the United States over the territory bounded roughly by what is now Canada to the north, Florida to the south, and the Mississippi River to the west.[13][14] A wider international peace was agreed, in which several territories were exchanged.

It wasnt your guns that gave you the edge, it was your allies.
Thats why if you half brained morons talk about a second revolution and you really think only guns decide the outcome of a war you are a real idiot.

You neither have the supplies,the infrastructure, the informations network,heavy weapons , training and all the other good stuff you need to fight a war.

You only have your trailer, a few guns and a minimal training.

"friendly fire" Bob and "collateral dmg" Jim will be a major help in your revolution.

So stop talking about a second revolution, cause you have absolutely no clue how many allies you had and what france had to do to save your sorry asses

Are you british by any chance? Cough cough...ww2...cough cough. Where else did the british f*ck up? Everywhere they sat down and forced the locals to serve them their tea and crumpets.

Post: #6

Richard Eldritch  Wrote:

Ssssssh, they still be saying arse instead of ass if it wasn't for those frenchys rescueing them. ( how humilating must it be to be saved by the french..? )

And they were responsible for napoleon afterwards....
What a great revolution,with the involvement of 4 giant kingdoms.

Post: #7

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Arch Phoenix  Wrote:

I know that you dont learn anything in school over there, but every normal american should know the history of their country.

And the historic fact is that your revolution would have failed if the french, dutch and Spain wouldnt have funded you and supplied you behind britains back.

France, Spain and the Dutch Republic all secretly provided supplies, ammunition and weapons to the revolutionaries starting early in 1776. After early British success, the war became a standoff. The British used their naval superiority to capture and occupy American coastal cities while the rebels largely controlled the countryside, where 90 percent of the population lived. British strategy relied on mobilizing Loyalist militia, and was never fully realized. A British invasion from Canada ended in the capture of the British army at the Battle of Saratoga in 1777. That American victory persuaded France to enter the war openly in early 1778, balancing the two sides' military strength. Spain and the Dutch Republic—French allies—also went to war with Britain over the next four years, threatening an invasion of Great Britain and severely testing British military strength with campaigns in Europe. Spain's involvement resulted in the expulsion of British armies from West Florida, securing the American southern flank. The decisive British naval victory at the Battle of the Saintes thwarted French and Spanish plans to drive Britain out of the Caribbean, and the joint Franco-Spanish attempt to capture the British stronghold of Gibraltar also resulted in similar defeat.


France ruined itself to help you,resulting in the emergence of Napoleon.

French involvement proved decisive[11] yet expensive, ruining France's economy and driving the country into massive debt.[12] A French naval victory in the Chesapeake led to a siege by combined French and Continental armies that forced a second British army to surrender at the Yorktown, Virginia in 1781. Fighting continued throughout 1782, while peace negotiations began. In 1783, the Treaty of Paris ended the war and recognized the sovereignty of the United States over the territory bounded roughly by what is now Canada to the north, Florida to the south, and the Mississippi River to the west.[13][14] A wider international peace was agreed, in which several territories were exchanged.

It wasnt your guns that gave you the edge, it was your allies.
Thats why if you half brained morons talk about a second revolution and you really think only guns decide the outcome of a war you are a real idiot.

You neither have the supplies,the infrastructure, the informations network,heavy weapons , training and all the other good stuff you need to fight a war.

You only have your trailer, a few guns and a minimal training.

"friendly fire" Bob and "collateral dmg" Jim will be a major help in your revolution.

So stop talking about a second revolution, cause you have absolutely no clue how many allies you had and what france had to do to save your sorry asses

Are you british by any chance? Cough cough...ww2...cough cough. Where else did the british f*ck up? Everywhere they sat down and forced the locals to serve them their tea and crumpets.

You mean the WW2 in which 20 million sovjets gave their live to free europe from the nazis? The same WW2 the US only joined to make money out of it and be the great hero, after losing only 400k people?

Post: #8

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Arch Phoenix  Wrote:

I know that you dont learn anything in school over there, but every normal american should know the history of their country.

And the historic fact is that your revolution would have failed if the french, dutch and Spain wouldnt have funded you and supplied you behind britains back.

France, Spain and the Dutch Republic all secretly provided supplies, ammunition and weapons to the revolutionaries starting early in 1776. After early British success, the war became a standoff. The British used their naval superiority to capture and occupy American coastal cities while the rebels largely controlled the countryside, where 90 percent of the population lived. British strategy relied on mobilizing Loyalist militia, and was never fully realized. A British invasion from Canada ended in the capture of the British army at the Battle of Saratoga in 1777. That American victory persuaded France to enter the war openly in early 1778, balancing the two sides' military strength. Spain and the Dutch Republic—French allies—also went to war with Britain over the next four years, threatening an invasion of Great Britain and severely testing British military strength with campaigns in Europe. Spain's involvement resulted in the expulsion of British armies from West Florida, securing the American southern flank. The decisive British naval victory at the Battle of the Saintes thwarted French and Spanish plans to drive Britain out of the Caribbean, and the joint Franco-Spanish attempt to capture the British stronghold of Gibraltar also resulted in similar defeat.


France ruined itself to help you,resulting in the emergence of Napoleon.

French involvement proved decisive[11] yet expensive, ruining France's economy and driving the country into massive debt.[12] A French naval victory in the Chesapeake led to a siege by combined French and Continental armies that forced a second British army to surrender at the Yorktown, Virginia in 1781. Fighting continued throughout 1782, while peace negotiations began. In 1783, the Treaty of Paris ended the war and recognized the sovereignty of the United States over the territory bounded roughly by what is now Canada to the north, Florida to the south, and the Mississippi River to the west.[13][14] A wider international peace was agreed, in which several territories were exchanged.

It wasnt your guns that gave you the edge, it was your allies.
Thats why if you half brained morons talk about a second revolution and you really think only guns decide the outcome of a war you are a real idiot.

You neither have the supplies,the infrastructure, the informations network,heavy weapons , training and all the other good stuff you need to fight a war.

You only have your trailer, a few guns and a minimal training.

"friendly fire" Bob and "collateral dmg" Jim will be a major help in your revolution.

So stop talking about a second revolution, cause you have absolutely no clue how many allies you had and what france had to do to save your sorry asses

Are you british by any chance? Cough cough...ww2...cough cough. Where else did the british f*ck up? Everywhere they sat down and forced the locals to serve them their tea and crumpets.

History isn't your strong point is it Guest? He is Austrain and the Brits won the battle of Britain on their own, you lot showed up at the very end of the war to liberate the french not us.In fact we even had to help you do that

Post: #9

but that was us against a foreign country
not us against our gov
doubt anyone can help there , except for citizens helping them selves
to ...liberated U.S. military components
or captured same
only help I would expect from the world
would be you to stop your gov from supporting the criminals running my gov
if you could do that
I think we the people could handle the rest....course many will need to grow a set first...

Post: #10

haskins  Wrote:

but that was us against a foreign country
not us against our gov
doubt anyone can help there , except for citizens helping them selves
to ...liberated U.S. military components
or captured same
only help I would expect from the world
would be you to stop your gov from supporting the criminals running my gov
if you could do that
I think we the people could handle the rest....course many will need to grow a set first...

It was not foriegn you hairy bastard! YOU betrayed your own people ya traitorous dogs,.....

Post: #11

And G Washington was no revolutioary, he was a monarchist who just wanted places in parliment for the american MPs. Pity we didn't oblige him but the King was a mad f*cker at the time.

Post: #12

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Arch Phoenix  Wrote:

I know that you dont learn anything in school over there, but every normal american should know the history of their country.

And the historic fact is that your revolution would have failed if the french, dutch and Spain wouldnt have funded you and supplied you behind britains back.

France, Spain and the Dutch Republic all secretly provided supplies, ammunition and weapons to the revolutionaries starting early in 1776. After early British success, the war became a standoff. The British used their naval superiority to capture and occupy American coastal cities while the rebels largely controlled the countryside, where 90 percent of the population lived. British strategy relied on mobilizing Loyalist militia, and was never fully realized. A British invasion from Canada ended in the capture of the British army at the Battle of Saratoga in 1777. That American victory persuaded France to enter the war openly in early 1778, balancing the two sides' military strength. Spain and the Dutch Republic—French allies—also went to war with Britain over the next four years, threatening an invasion of Great Britain and severely testing British military strength with campaigns in Europe. Spain's involvement resulted in the expulsion of British armies from West Florida, securing the American southern flank. The decisive British naval victory at the Battle of the Saintes thwarted French and Spanish plans to drive Britain out of the Caribbean, and the joint Franco-Spanish attempt to capture the British stronghold of Gibraltar also resulted in similar defeat.


France ruined itself to help you,resulting in the emergence of Napoleon.

French involvement proved decisive[11] yet expensive, ruining France's economy and driving the country into massive debt.[12] A French naval victory in the Chesapeake led to a siege by combined French and Continental armies that forced a second British army to surrender at the Yorktown, Virginia in 1781. Fighting continued throughout 1782, while peace negotiations began. In 1783, the Treaty of Paris ended the war and recognized the sovereignty of the United States over the territory bounded roughly by what is now Canada to the north, Florida to the south, and the Mississippi River to the west.[13][14] A wider international peace was agreed, in which several territories were exchanged.

It wasnt your guns that gave you the edge, it was your allies.
Thats why if you half brained morons talk about a second revolution and you really think only guns decide the outcome of a war you are a real idiot.

You neither have the supplies,the infrastructure, the informations network,heavy weapons , training and all the other good stuff you need to fight a war.

You only have your trailer, a few guns and a minimal training.

"friendly fire" Bob and "collateral dmg" Jim will be a major help in your revolution.

So stop talking about a second revolution, cause you have absolutely no clue how many allies you had and what france had to do to save your sorry asses

Are you british by any chance? Cough cough...ww2...cough cough. Where else did the british f*ck up? Everywhere they sat down and forced the locals to serve them their tea and crumpets.

thats good

Post: #13

ilsa  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Arch Phoenix  Wrote:

I know that you dont learn anything in school over there, but every normal american should know the history of their country.

And the historic fact is that your revolution would have failed if the french, dutch and Spain wouldnt have funded you and supplied you behind britains back.

France, Spain and the Dutch Republic all secretly provided supplies, ammunition and weapons to the revolutionaries starting early in 1776. After early British success, the war became a standoff. The British used their naval superiority to capture and occupy American coastal cities while the rebels largely controlled the countryside, where 90 percent of the population lived. British strategy relied on mobilizing Loyalist militia, and was never fully realized. A British invasion from Canada ended in the capture of the British army at the Battle of Saratoga in 1777. That American victory persuaded France to enter the war openly in early 1778, balancing the two sides' military strength. Spain and the Dutch Republic—French allies—also went to war with Britain over the next four years, threatening an invasion of Great Britain and severely testing British military strength with campaigns in Europe. Spain's involvement resulted in the expulsion of British armies from West Florida, securing the American southern flank. The decisive British naval victory at the Battle of the Saintes thwarted French and Spanish plans to drive Britain out of the Caribbean, and the joint Franco-Spanish attempt to capture the British stronghold of Gibraltar also resulted in similar defeat.


France ruined itself to help you,resulting in the emergence of Napoleon.

French involvement proved decisive[11] yet expensive, ruining France's economy and driving the country into massive debt.[12] A French naval victory in the Chesapeake led to a siege by combined French and Continental armies that forced a second British army to surrender at the Yorktown, Virginia in 1781. Fighting continued throughout 1782, while peace negotiations began. In 1783, the Treaty of Paris ended the war and recognized the sovereignty of the United States over the territory bounded roughly by what is now Canada to the north, Florida to the south, and the Mississippi River to the west.[13][14] A wider international peace was agreed, in which several territories were exchanged.

It wasnt your guns that gave you the edge, it was your allies.
Thats why if you half brained morons talk about a second revolution and you really think only guns decide the outcome of a war you are a real idiot.

You neither have the supplies,the infrastructure, the informations network,heavy weapons , training and all the other good stuff you need to fight a war.

You only have your trailer, a few guns and a minimal training.

"friendly fire" Bob and "collateral dmg" Jim will be a major help in your revolution.

So stop talking about a second revolution, cause you have absolutely no clue how many allies you had and what france had to do to save your sorry asses

Are you british by any chance? Cough cough...ww2...cough cough. Where else did the british f*ck up? Everywhere they sat down and forced the locals to serve them their tea and crumpets.

thats good

As I pointed out, it's complete rubbish. History-Confusing Americans for 200 years.

Post: #14

Arch Phoenix  Wrote:

LoP Guest  Wrote:

Arch Phoenix  Wrote:

I know that you dont learn anything in school over there, but every normal american should know the history of their country.

And the historic fact is that your revolution would have failed if the french, dutch and Spain wouldnt have funded you and supplied you behind britains back.

France, Spain and the Dutch Republic all secretly provided supplies, ammunition and weapons to the revolutionaries starting early in 1776. After early British success, the war became a standoff. The British used their naval superiority to capture and occupy American coastal cities while the rebels largely controlled the countryside, where 90 percent of the population lived. British strategy relied on mobilizing Loyalist militia, and was never fully realized. A British invasion from Canada ended in the capture of the British army at the Battle of Saratoga in 1777. That American victory persuaded France to enter the war openly in early 1778, balancing the two sides' military strength. Spain and the Dutch Republic—French allies—also went to war with Britain over the next four years, threatening an invasion of Great Britain and severely testing British military strength with campaigns in Europe. Spain's involvement resulted in the expulsion of British armies from West Florida, securing the American southern flank. The decisive British naval victory at the Battle of the Saintes thwarted French and Spanish plans to drive Britain out of the Caribbean, and the joint Franco-Spanish attempt to capture the British stronghold of Gibraltar also resulted in similar defeat.


France ruined itself to help you,resulting in the emergence of Napoleon.

French involvement proved decisive[11] yet expensive, ruining France's economy and driving the country into massive debt.[12] A French naval victory in the Chesapeake led to a siege by combined French and Continental armies that forced a second British army to surrender at the Yorktown, Virginia in 1781. Fighting continued throughout 1782, while peace negotiations began. In 1783, the Treaty of Paris ended the war and recognized the sovereignty of the United States over the territory bounded roughly by what is now Canada to the north, Florida to the south, and the Mississippi River to the west.[13][14] A wider international peace was agreed, in which several territories were exchanged.

It wasnt your guns that gave you the edge, it was your allies.
Thats why if you half brained morons talk about a second revolution and you really think only guns decide the outcome of a war you are a real idiot.

You neither have the supplies,the infrastructure, the informations network,heavy weapons , training and all the other good stuff you need to fight a war.

You only have your trailer, a few guns and a minimal training.

"friendly fire" Bob and "collateral dmg" Jim will be a major help in your revolution.

So stop talking about a second revolution, cause you have absolutely no clue how many allies you had and what france had to do to save your sorry asses

Are you british by any chance? Cough cough...ww2...cough cough. Where else did the british f*ck up? Everywhere they sat down and forced the locals to serve them their tea and crumpets.

You mean the WW2 in which 20 million sovjets gave their live to free europe from the nazis? The same WW2 the US only joined to make money out of it and be the great hero, after losing only 400k people?

russia...did nothing but save their own ass...after hitler went after them
the millions dead.....watch enemy at the gates
how many did they kill themselves ??
how many brainless human waves were sent out of stalins ego to keep the town named after him
fact russia only got involved after hitler attacked them
not because they wanted to save any in europe
if hitler had not attacked them
they would of sat and watched europe be wiped clean
not saying the U.S. got in for right reasons...I'm sure banking interest where behind our entery
matter of fact...my opinion...it was all rigged/run by the rothchilds for $$$...as was WW1

Post: #15

OP took his persnickety pills this morning, and now he's all worked up about everyone else's business but his own.