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**TX PATRIOT** · (This post was last modified: 04-14-2012 08:25 AM by TX PATRIOT.)

GUANO Wrote:

Freedom and Liberty are Deified Principals (gods) which cannot be proven to actually exist other than in 'concept' or 'theory' (Just like the United States only exists because we believe it does)... wake up... Nothing is Free... Ever... If you can't reach this conclusion using pure logic, look at the natural world... Look at Physics... In our realm of existence, everything is subject and subservient to the higher powers and nothing you can ever do will change that. Freedom and Liberty are only perceived... Liberty being a little more legit but even that is just perception... Humans are easy to predict, this in itself proves there is no freedom or liberty... If you have to eat or breathe air then you're a slave...

The Philosophy of Liberty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys...r_embedded

The Story of Your Enslavement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT5...r_embedded

Discussion:
http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-WINNING-...tle-musing

Cheers!

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**STOPPITT**

It means looking out my front door on a sunny morning and getting that good feeling of 'It is going to be a great day!', even when it is raining like a mutherfcuker!... chuckle

**Rager** lop guest User ID: 89580 04-14-2012 05:07 PM

for more input.

**Chawlee**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeMrK1aDyik

**brewha**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.

AMEN!

**brommas**

**Luvapottamus**

The Martini Maven Wrote:

Rager Wrote:
Is freedom worth dying for?

good question rager...is it in this day?

look at lifestyles and values from the original battles for this country and now

children do come in the equation

but it seems back then the principles were stronger for true spirit of a nation

and the greater good no matter what as an individual or their situation

perhaps back then people felt a noble valor in spirit/soul to fight for the common betterment of mankind

now?

gotta get that $200.00 flatscreen on black friday

Noble valor 2011:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DigiWS1YhxI

Noble valor 1889:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxaJY8UZxn4

Chinese slave shit, piece of somebody else's land, same noble valor;

Jptdknpa

**Disturbed nli** Not the real one! User ID: 1 04-14-2012 07:44 PM

Without the right to ignore the state, there is no freedom.

**titanic1**

Freedom is a good thing.

**GoatBoy** · **GoatBoy** Coffee, please. User ID: 61788 04-14-2012 07:53 PM **Posts: 4,633**

Rager Wrote:

Is freedom worth dying for?

Having the liberty to pursue your idea of freedom is worth dying for.
At least you have the choice.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 67097 04-14-2012 11:39 PM

GUANO Wrote:

Freedom and Liberty are Deified Principals (gods) which cannot be proven to actually exist other than in 'concept' or 'theory' (Just like the United States only exists because we believe it does)... wake up... Nothing is Free... Ever... If you can't reach this conclusion using pure logic, look at the natural world... Look at Physics... In our realm of existence, everything is subject and subservient to the higher powers and nothing you can ever do will change that. Freedom and Liberty are only perceived... Liberty being a little more legit but even that is just perception... Humans are easy to predict, this in itself proves there is no freedom or liberty... If you have to eat or breathe air then you're a slave...

There is a group of Hollywood writers, directors, and producers who understand this and try to initiate the public.

For example, it is one of the themes in Donnie Darko. Begin 9:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOf3bAAtB7w

Donnie discusses the idea with his science teacher at 8:00:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zReW272Q2yg

In Stranger Than Fiction Harold hears his trajectory rather than seeing it as a vision:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDwTQ57YyzI

**Shakey1** · **Shakey1** Subscriber User ID: 78542 04-15-2012 12:15 AM **Posts: 11,998**

The Martini Maven Wrote:

sleeping

LoP Guest Wrote:

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.

David Icke thinks Kris Kristoferson is a Reptilian. He may be right!
doomed

**Shakey1** · **Shakey1** Subscriber User ID: 78542 04-15-2012 12:22 AM **Posts: 11,998**

Luvapottamus Wrote:

The Martini Maven Wrote:
Rager Wrote:
Is freedom worth dying for?

good question rager...is it in this day?

look at lifestyles and values from the original battles for this country and now

children do come in the equation

but it seems back then the principles were stronger for true spirit of a nation

and the greater good no matter what as an individual or their situation

perhaps back then people felt a noble valor in spirit/soul to fight for the common betterment of mankind

now?

gotta get that $200.00 flatscreen on black friday

Noble valor 2011:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DigiWS1YhxI

Noble valor 1889:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxaJY8UZxn4

Chinese slave shit, piece of somebody else's land, same noble valor;

I like these posts!
Well put Jhikpghf

**GUANO**

LoP Guest Wrote:

GUANO Wrote:
Freedom and Liberty are Deified Principals (gods) which cannot be proven to actually exist other than in 'concept' or 'theory' (Just like the United States only exists because we believe it does)... wake up... Nothing is Free... Ever... If you can't reach this conclusion using pure logic, look at the natural world... Look at Physics... In our realm of existence, everything is subject and subservient to the higher powers and nothing you can ever do will change that. Freedom and Liberty are only perceived... Liberty being a little more legit but even that is just perception... Humans are easy to predict, this in itself proves there is no freedom or liberty... If you have to eat or breathe air then you're a slave...

There is a group of Hollywood writers, directors, and producers who understand this and try to initiate the public.

For example, it is one of the themes in Donnie Darko. Begin 9:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOf3bAAtB7w

Donnie discusses the idea with his science teacher at 8:00:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zReW272Q2yg

In Stranger Than Fiction Harold hears his trajectory rather than seeing it as a vision:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDwTQ57YyzI

Yes but often they have a far more sinister agenda or they propose the truth but not give any direction for behavior which just adds more salt into the sea that is our multi-cultural society...

**GUANO** · (This post was last modified: 04-15-2012 12:31 AM by GUANO.)

LoP Guest Wrote:

In Stranger Than Fiction Harold hears his trajectory rather than seeing it as a vision:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDwTQ57YyzI

The "trajectory" idea is encouraged in marketing as well... Fidelity has a nice pyramid logo lol....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzTqvDEGg6s