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**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 98692 07-07-2012 10:55 PM

So, when Christ left that tomb in which he was buried,
it means that the spirit can leave the empty shell (hulle)
of our material nature behind and rise up.

It does not mean that God is the sun!

WHY?

The sun is a material object and the Christ myth is entirely
about transcending physical existence, therefore it is absurd
to believe that we are to replace one material being for another.

Simply owing to our ego-consciousness, we are left to explain
these things in metaphors that are analogous to things that we actually
are familiar with.

By experiencing dreams and visions we come to the truth,,, not by
limiting our understanding to the representations of the ego/intellect.

Heartflowers

**Askakido**

Skippy Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
Skippy Wrote:
You read the Bible verses and try to decipher them? It sounds to me like you just repeat what you are told.

We call them lemmings.

Most people that call themselves Christians today don't even read the Bible. If they do, they only read the parts they have been told to read. There is so much hate and prejudice in that book it's ridiculous. The majority of the "religious" people of the world are also the war mongers. Coincedence?

Operative word, perhaps, "Most". However, the Christians that really do -- do not only read the Bible(s) (in multiple text versions and languages) and study them for great periods of time are the first to state that, yes, 'I was a sinner, and I am a sinner, the time will come at the great gathering at the coming of the Lord, I will then be free, free from Sin, but not until then, as I still have defects, because I am a slave of the fleshly body coming from being a Son of Adam, the fallen one..." The 'christian' that states of himself 'I am not a sinner" is of a delusion, the results of considerable practice of inquity -- or because they have believed false teachers.

Free from Sin... Joh 8:31-32 (KJV) Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; (32) And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Notice how often that verse is yanked out of its context.. I mean that verse 32 is yanked out of context by believer and unbeliever alike.

Pi Infinity User ID: 3.14159265 07-07-2012 11:26 PM

Skippy Wrote:

And in Egyptian, Saturn/Satan is Seth. The Sun is Horus/Ra and Venus is Isis. Just different languages telling the same story.

Skippy, just for fun, read Velikovsky's "World In Collesion" (sp?)... if Velikovsky's 'theory' as a form of comparitive religion and mythos, then his work brings in some very interesting connections. Short story, Venus as a planet started out eariler in orbit around the planet Jupiter, much as we might find Io, and Europe, etc.. as a moon of Jupiter.. something happens and Venus falls Sun-ward.. passes the Earth so close as to nearly Kiss the Ground of the Earth.. at a distance of around 125,000 miles out... (half the distance of the Moon) kissing Earth at that distance for a day or so, and then continues on, after a flirting and hitting Mars with her darting eyes, eventually settles down, fallen out of its High place out by Jupiter and found laid down close to the Earth and in a closer orbit of the Sun than even the Earth is... and Venus, strangely with its 950F-850F atmosphere and surface temperatures, and its extremly high pressure atmosphere.. with a considerable amount of sulfur, and sulfuric acid ... seems and 'smells' very much like the 'classic' description of a firey Hell... Hell on Venus... go figure.

Question is, is Velikovsky in some strange way what he wrote might or did really happen sometime in relatively recent human times? Velikovsky situated the time of that Venus transist of Earth at the start of the Israelites Exodus.. btw.

**Askakido**

Skippy Wrote:

PeeDee Wrote:
Skippy Wrote:
The whole Bible is talking about the stars, the sun, the moon, the zodiac (mazzaroth/nazareth). There are no literal "demons" or "angels". They are planets and stars.

So the sun wrote the ten commandments with his finger tip??
Jesus told us to repent
we are also warned to avoid taking the mark of the beast.
Why if the bible is just about the planets what is the point of the bible??

An old Hebrew man wrote the ten commandments. Old Greek and Roman men as well.

The Bible is warning us about a cyclic cataclysm. "As in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the Son of Man (Aquarius)"

Fire, Air, Water, Earth.. moves from the Water to the Fire we have to go through Air.. as is seen as "The Prince of the Power of the Air, the spirit that works in the men of disobediance".

From a Biblical scene, the Flood at Noah's time was a fully Global and World-Wide Flood, and not some dinky little ole river flood, that you would need some 120 years warning to walk away. Unlike the case of fleeing from the river valley to the hills it would only be in a matter of hours or days in Giglamesh's flood. Like wise the World shall perish by Fire is just as literal.. though going through and surviving that fire will have been immerged all around them with that fire.. in a very literal sense... How does flesh and blood withstand, for instance, the Nova explosion of the Sun? Tlhe Earth remains, or else we could be thinking of a Super-Nova that vaporizes the entire Earth in full annihilation. Those that Mock will Mock.. that's their nature.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 106891 07-08-2012 06:18 AM

remember that the bible was written by jews so use some common sense people what is the one thing jews don't want you to know?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 98692 07-09-2012 05:15 AM

Skippy abandoned his own thread without explaining
how a transcendental religion is transcendental with
the chief figure being a material object,,,, the sun.

The sun is a material object, not a transcendent symbol. Anon

So, Skippy is saying that Christianity is a materialist philosophy?

**Skippy**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Skippy abandoned his own thread without explaining
how a transcendental religion is transcendental with
the chief figure being a material object,,,, the sun.

The sun is a material object, not a transcendent symbol.

So, Skippy is saying that Christianity is a materialist philosophy?

My other threads usually get brought up when one of my current threads hits a nerve. I guess I'm supposed to divert my attention away from what I'm saying now to reply to something I said a few days ago...Which nerve did I hit this time?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 98692 07-09-2012 05:41 AM

I just wanted an explanation.

Is the sun really a material object, or is it a
transcendental symbol?

The sun is decidedly longer lasting than mortals, and it is
a mysterious OBJECT, but the basis of Christianity is the
meaning implied beyond objects and materiality.

There is no LOGOS, no purpose and meaning, in just the
solar cycle.

It looks like you have a materialist interpretation of a
religion that is transcendental,,, quite a contradiction in terms.

That's all!

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 107274 07-09-2012 05:48 AM

Skippy, check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrAstrotheol...=da&view=0

**Skippy**

LoP Guest Wrote:

Skippy, check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrAstrotheol...=da&view=0

I've emailed Santos directly and watched a ton of his material. He has one of my vids on his channel as well. (In the Prophecy folder) Thanks, though.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 107281 07-09-2012 06:24 AM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Skippy Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
OP is looking for comfort from other lost souls who will join him in
the delusion that they are not sinners who will one day stand before
the judgment of seat of their Creator, Lord Jesus Christ.

You read the Bible verses and try to decipher them? It sounds to me like you just repeat what you are told.

Skippy, it sounds to me like you are trying to
interpret the Bible out of context.

You know that there were hierophants in those days that
were necessary to make the myths intelligible. By interpreting
the myth literally, as you do, you miss the most important meaning
of it,,, its transcendent symbolism.

It gets old to hear the same literalism on these boards, day after day,
year after year.

Jesus Christ is known by many names and the modern Bible is either copied or written by the Egyptians, which in turn plagiarized it from the Sumerians. The stories are the same. So if you want to understand the Bible, then you need to read the Sumerian tablets and ancient Egyptian writings.

Follow the holy blood and the holy grail from the Sumerians to Egypt, and to the lineage of modern day rulers and royal bloodlines. Jesus Christ = Tutankhamun.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 82775 07-09-2012 06:39 AM

Gibbie Wrote:

Speaking as a former christard Jesus is refering to baptism by fire, aka baptism by the holy spirit.

I think so too, because I've experienced it. The path was not an easy one to walk, but the resurrection was awesome!