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Funeral Director Has Proof Zimmerman Lied
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Richard Kurtz, a Miami funeral director who prepared Trayvon Martin’s body, said he found no “cuts, scratches, or bruises, only a gunshot wound to the chest.”

Kurtz told CBS News that there was no evidence of a scuffle or fight.

Just this week, video of George Zimmerman at the police station revealed that he contrary to the story his father and the police have told, he had no bloody nose, no grass stains on his jacket, and no apparent head injury. In fact, NY Daily News got the EMS documents that show Zimmerman had no serious injuries and in fact the second ambulance called to the scene for Zimmerman was canceled. The NY Daily News reported:

“We could see no physical signs like there had been a scuffle [or] there had been a fight,” Kurtz told CBS News.

“The hands — I didn’t see any knuckles, bruises or what have you, and that is something we would have covered up if it would have been there.”

Trayvon “looked perfectly normal to me when he came in and the story just does not make sense that he was in this type of scuffle or fight in anything that we could see,” Kurtz added.

These revelations should outrage an already outraged community. Just days ago, Mr. Zimmerman the elder was hiding on TV blaming President Obama for stirring up hated while Mr Zimmerman the elder lied about a dead boy in order to protect his son.

Let’s not mince words anymore, as the Zimmerman family has proven that they have no problem making wild accusations about Trayvon Martin. George Zimmerman lied to the police when he claimed self-defense. Then his father went on local TV and disparaged the character of a dead boy and the President as he repeated his son’s lies.

Why was Mr Zimmerman the elder hiding from the public (shown only in shadowed profile on TV) as he took his lies public?

Maybe Mr. Zimmerman the elder couldn’t face America as he complained about how the mean black people have been spreading “hate” (aka: compassion for the victim’s family)? Oh, and where was Zimmerman’s compassion for the victim and his family?

I’m still waiting to hear any of them even mention the young boy whose life was snuffed out by a lying coward and covered up by a complicit police department.

This reminds me of Sarah Palin’s blood libel video. There’s something sociopathic here evidenced in the utter lack of compassion and empathy and way, way too much self-pity. This toxic mixture is topped off with an utter lack of shame about blatant lies.

Here’s a thought for the Zimmerman family. Maybe if their son hadn’t gunned down an innocent boy, people wouldn’t be thinking bad things about their son. Maybe if their son wasn’t guilty of lying about the circumstances surrounding that killing, they wouldn’t have interpreted the President’s call for compassion as “stirring hatred”.

Perhaps one day it will dawn on them that their son is walking free while another family buried their son. So maybe now isn’t the time to get outraged over anyone questioning their son’s intentions or the results of his choices, even in light of a constant stream of evidence that George Zimmerman was the aggressor, was on top of Trayvon Martin when he shot him, that there was no struggle, and that Zimmerman has a history of aggression and violence.

Mr. Zimmerman the elder went on TV to disparage a young dead boy whom his own son had killed and he is still saying the video in the police department isn’t telling the whole story. Do the EMS logs help Mr. Zimmerman with the whole story? A second ambulance was canceled because his son George did not require an ambulance. Is Zimmerman going to apologize to the Martin family now?

Back to that Stand Your Ground law; this law does not apply when the person killed has a right to be where they are, nor does it apply when the killer is the instigator of the encounter.

It might seem normal these days for people to lie and say horrible things about someone they’ve killed, but it’s really not. Ask yourself if you had taken the life of a 17 year old boy if you could live with lying about him and besmirching his character and causing such pain to his family after you already took their son from them, all to save yourself? Normal people actually can’t live with that kind of guilt and shame. It’s sociopathic if you can live with it, and a sure tell is doubling down on the character smears as the evidence begins to tell the ugly truth.

Here we have a case where witnesses described seeing Zimmerman on top of Trayvon, and Trayvon screaming for help before he was shot and killed. This corresponds with Trayvon’s girlfriend’s accounting, with the physical evidence and with the video from the police department. The only accounting that doesn’t match up with the evidence and the witnesses is George Zimmerman’s.

Meanwhile, the Martin family is being subjected to having their son’s name dragged through the mud by the Zimmermans and the Sanford Police Department. When you’re dealing with sociopathic behavior, you have to call it what it is. Failure to do so only enables those engaging in the behavior to inflict more harm.

George Zimmerman lied. His father lied. Their lies have caused excessive and unnecessary pain to the Martin family. If Zimmerman is finally arrested for this crime and charged, the fact that his actions post killing don’t suggest regret, sorrow or empathy should play a part in his sentencing if he’s found guilty.

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RE: Funeral Director Has Proof Zimmerman Lied
Funeral director is synonymous with forensic pathologist now?
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RE: Funeral Director Has Proof Zimmerman Lied
DrPostman  Wrote: (04-01-2012 05:24 AM)
Richard Kurtz, a Miami funeral director who prepared Trayvon Martin’s body, said he found no “cuts, scratches, or bruises, only a gunshot wound to the chest.”

Kurtz told CBS News that there was no evidence of a scuffle or fight.

Just this week, video of George Zimmerman at the police station revealed that he contrary to the story his father and the police have told, he had no bloody nose, no grass stains on his jacket, and no apparent head injury. In fact, NY Daily News got the EMS documents that show Zimmerman had no serious injuries and in fact the second ambulance called to the scene for Zimmerman was canceled. The NY Daily News reported:

“We could see no physical signs like there had been a scuffle [or] there had been a fight,” Kurtz told CBS News.

“The hands — I didn’t see any knuckles, bruises or what have you, and that is something we would have covered up if it would have been there.”

Trayvon “looked perfectly normal to me when he came in and the story just does not make sense that he was in this type of scuffle or fight in anything that we could see,” Kurtz added.

These revelations should outrage an already outraged community. Just days ago, Mr. Zimmerman the elder was hiding on TV blaming President Obama for stirring up hated while Mr Zimmerman the elder lied about a dead boy in order to protect his son.

Let’s not mince words anymore, as the Zimmerman family has proven that they have no problem making wild accusations about Trayvon Martin. George Zimmerman lied to the police when he claimed self-defense. Then his father went on local TV and disparaged the character of a dead boy and the President as he repeated his son’s lies.

Why was Mr Zimmerman the elder hiding from the public (shown only in shadowed profile on TV) as he took his lies public?

Maybe Mr. Zimmerman the elder couldn’t face America as he complained about how the mean black people have been spreading “hate” (aka: compassion for the victim’s family)? Oh, and where was Zimmerman’s compassion for the victim and his family?

I’m still waiting to hear any of them even mention the young boy whose life was snuffed out by a lying coward and covered up by a complicit police department.

This reminds me of Sarah Palin’s blood libel video. There’s something sociopathic here evidenced in the utter lack of compassion and empathy and way, way too much self-pity. This toxic mixture is topped off with an utter lack of shame about blatant lies.

Here’s a thought for the Zimmerman family. Maybe if their son hadn’t gunned down an innocent boy, people wouldn’t be thinking bad things about their son. Maybe if their son wasn’t guilty of lying about the circumstances surrounding that killing, they wouldn’t have interpreted the President’s call for compassion as “stirring hatred”.

Perhaps one day it will dawn on them that their son is walking free while another family buried their son. So maybe now isn’t the time to get outraged over anyone questioning their son’s intentions or the results of his choices, even in light of a constant stream of evidence that George Zimmerman was the aggressor, was on top of Trayvon Martin when he shot him, that there was no struggle, and that Zimmerman has a history of aggression and violence.

Mr. Zimmerman the elder went on TV to disparage a young dead boy whom his own son had killed and he is still saying the video in the police department isn’t telling the whole story. Do the EMS logs help Mr. Zimmerman with the whole story? A second ambulance was canceled because his son George did not require an ambulance. Is Zimmerman going to apologize to the Martin family now?

Back to that Stand Your Ground law; this law does not apply when the person killed has a right to be where they are, nor does it apply when the killer is the instigator of the encounter.

It might seem normal these days for people to lie and say horrible things about someone they’ve killed, but it’s really not. Ask yourself if you had taken the life of a 17 year old boy if you could live with lying about him and besmirching his character and causing such pain to his family after you already took their son from them, all to save yourself? Normal people actually can’t live with that kind of guilt and shame. It’s sociopathic if you can live with it, and a sure tell is doubling down on the character smears as the evidence begins to tell the ugly truth.

Here we have a case where witnesses described seeing Zimmerman on top of Trayvon, and Trayvon screaming for help before he was shot and killed. This corresponds with Trayvon’s girlfriend’s accounting, with the physical evidence and with the video from the police department. The only accounting that doesn’t match up with the evidence and the witnesses is George Zimmerman’s.

Meanwhile, the Martin family is being subjected to having their son’s name dragged through the mud by the Zimmermans and the Sanford Police Department. When you’re dealing with sociopathic behavior, you have to call it what it is. Failure to do so only enables those engaging in the behavior to inflict more harm.

George Zimmerman lied. His father lied. Their lies have caused excessive and unnecessary pain to the Martin family. If Zimmerman is finally arrested for this crime and charged, the fact that his actions post killing don’t suggest regret, sorrow or empathy should play a part in his sentencing if he’s found guilty.

Read The Rest HERE

wow! i could have used the facts in this article and done without all the frenzied social commentary by the author
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RE: Funeral Director Has Proof Zimmerman Lied
For many, it can be less disturbing, simpler to blame the victim than the system (and, by extension, ourselves) and no one exploits this weakness better than the right wing. Any time there's been a major backlash to a social movement, from civil rights to feminism to AIDS activism, the right has followed a similar victim-blaming script. The message gets injected into the culture: Black poverty is a symptom of pathology. Rape victims are asking for it. AIDS sufferers are being punished for their lifestyles. Those without health care should be left to die. And now, most horribly and tellingly, a dead young boy with skittles and iced tea in his hands had it coming.

The idea behind these smears is: it can't happen to you. It's not your problem. But racism, xenophobia, homophobia, patriarchy--these are our problems, problems the majority and the privileged perpetuate.

A Derailing and Damaging Process

Over the past month or so, the central injustice in the Trayvon Martin case--the idea that the killer has not even been arrested or charged--was so glaring and obvious that even complacent Americans grew outraged. The case garnered millions of petition signatures and a steadily growing stream of attention. A genuine conversation about race actually began. And then the victim-blaming script kicked in in earnest.

Here's how the process goes: First, right-wing figures express perfunctory dismay that something terrible--in this case, the most nightmarish thing imaginable--has occurred. Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney even weighed in on the Trayvon Martin "tragedy." Then, extremists and their enablers get alarmed that a chorus of voices are (rightly) calling attention to the relationship between the tragedy and massive inequalities, in this case deeply embedded, deeply damaging racism.

Then, they attempt to reverse the story, and try to bully everyone else into reversing it, too. They begin to dig into the victim's history to find something unsavory. To wit, the sudden cries emerging this week that Trayvon Martin wasn't the perfect victim and therefore the entire line of thought connecting his death to racism was somehow invalid. After all, he was once found with a baggie that contained traces of marijuana. He tweeted teenage-type things and grimaced at the camera. These flimsy arguments, as some commenters on conservative blogs implied, suddenly meant we could absolve both George Zimmerman and ourselves of responsibility. Other white supremacists and racists went so far as to hack Martin's online accounts in an effort to keep smearing him.

Although only the biggest extremists said the most explicit things out loud, the idea that Trayvon Martin deserved to be killed was the exact message they were supposed to receive--and transmit. Zerlina Maxwell at the Grio called it the "Thug-ification of Trayvon Martin," writing:

It is a strategic manipulation of public perception with the purpose of turning Trayvon into a stereotypical black male predisposed to criminal behavior. The purpose is to spin the public outcry that followed as overreactions or as a rush to judgment.

Maxwell notes this is an effort to "derail" us, a crucial aspect of victim-blaming, shifting focus away from the damning facts: Zimmerman shot Martin after making an 911 call that strongly indicated clear racial profiling if not outright racism on his part; Martin was unarmed and told his girlfriend he was being followed; the police made a number of glaring missteps and didn't collect evidence.

The idea is to change the conversation to speculation, conjecture and attempts to slant the story differently. This even included Michelle Malkin's site posting fake pictures of Trayvon Martin's alleged Facebook account to make him look more "thuggish." Even after it retracted the story, damage had been done.
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RE: Funeral Director Has Proof Zimmerman Lied
what are all the ku klux klan wanna be rightwingers gonna do if Zimmerman is found guilty?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-01-2012 05:42 AM)
what are all the ku klux klan wanna be rightwingers gonna do if Zimmerman is found guilty?

climb off yer mum and shake their little fists at the imaginary sky-god?
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RE: Funeral Director Has Proof Zimmerman Lied
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-01-2012 05:42 AM)
what are all the ku klux klan wanna be rightwingers gonna do if Zimmerman is found guilty?

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i haven't really followed the hype, since it seems to me like an obvious psy-op to rile up the masses
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was this funeral director white?
critical thinking versus emotional reaction-you lose.

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Mike  Wrote: (04-01-2012 05:27 AM)
Funeral director is synonymous with forensic pathologist now?

A coroner doesn't even need a license. They get elected. Sure most of them are doctors, but not all of them. Hard to believe ain't it. It started with forensic science and mafia thugs.


http://www.ehow.com/info_8123155_require...roner.html
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RE: Funeral Director Has Proof Zimmerman Lied
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-01-2012 05:53 AM)
Mike  Wrote: (04-01-2012 05:27 AM)
Funeral director is synonymous with forensic pathologist now?

A coroner doesn't even need a license. They get elected. Sure most of them are doctors, but not all of them. Hard to believe ain't it. It started with forensic science and mafia thugs.


http://www.ehow.com/info_8123155_require...roner.html

Coroner != medical examiner/forensic pathologist

In places where the coroners sole role is to say "yep they're dead" and notify the next of kin and identify the dead - they won't be performing an autopsy. That's the job of a medical examiner/forensic pathologist.
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RE: Funeral Director Has Proof Zimmerman Lied
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-01-2012 05:42 AM)
what are all the ku klux klan wanna be rightwingers gonna do if Zimmerman is found guilty?

The question should be how many innocent people will be killed or beaten senseless and how much property destroyed if Zimmerman is not arrested and convicted.And you should not assume that everyone not going along with the mainstream version is some kind of right wing racist.
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Isn't there a Coroner's report out yet?
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RE: Funeral Director Has Proof Zimmerman Lied
This was a pretty good idea on CBS's part to find the funeral director and interview him.....

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Americans 1st  Wrote: (04-01-2012 06:14 AM)
Isn't there a Coroner's report out yet?

Zionist are suppressing it. Lmao
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silversides  Wrote: (04-01-2012 06:18 AM)
This was a pretty good idea on CBS's part to find the funeral director and interview him.....

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