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**DanfromtheHills**

diggerbanks Wrote:

DanfromtheHills Wrote:
f*ck you BP.

You can all carry on blaming BP but as long as you do so you are ignoring the collective responsibility.

BP weren't drilling there for fun. They were drilling there because your (our) demand means oil companies have to find oil in places that are more inaccessible, and more difficult to extract. If BP hadn't been there someone else would.

You love to have your demons when in fact, en masse, you are the demon.

Me, a demon?

Go f*ck yourself digger.

**FaFaFooey** · (This post was last modified: 04-19-2012 02:24 PM by FaFaFooey.)

San Fran dungeness crab still safe...and yummy too...Doesnt glow in the dark or ooze anything...YET

**FaFaFooey** · (This post was last modified: 04-19-2012 02:26 PM by FaFaFooey.)

diggerbanks Wrote:

DanfromtheHills Wrote:
f*ck you BP.

You can all carry on blaming BP but as long as you do so you are ignoring the collective responsibility.

BP weren't drilling there for fun. They were drilling there because your (our) demand means oil companies have to find oil in places that are more inaccessible, and more difficult to extract. If BP hadn't been there someone else would.

You love to have your demons when in fact, en masse, you are the demon.

So the dealer is the good guy and the junkie is a demon?..I have that correct?

**Uh!** lop guest User ID: 36006 04-19-2012 03:08 PM

Assumeing its true and based on the source and lacking any independant confirmation, everybody that bitches about this needs publicly prove the fuel millage of the vehicle they drive and as a result demonstrate their culpability or innocence in the matter.

Having been in the alternative energy industry in the past and going to shows and whatnot and through careful examination of other vehicles at these events and rarely finding a car in the parking lot that got better gas millage than what I was driving.... Well, you get the picture I hope. And mine at the time only got 37MPG!

If you don't put your money where your mouth is, STFU!

**Ghenghy**

This is awful, who didnt see this coming.

And now I have to run over to Mayport and get my shrimp and oyster
fix for the week. Today I am grateful I dont live on the Gulf. This is devastating
news for the economic health of several states.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 91201 04-19-2012 05:00 PM

Oil from Deepwater Horizon spill still causing damage in gulf 2 years later, scientists find

link to image: http://imgupld.lunaticoutpost.com/graphi...90280D.jpg

Geologist Rip Kirby examined the skin of a graduate student who swam in the gulf and then showered. Under regular light, his skin seemed clean, but ultraviolet light revealed orange blotches — dispersant-mixed oil

• Scientists have confirmed that tiny creatures called zooplankton accumulated toxic compounds from coming in contact with the Deepwater Horizon oil. Because small fish and crustaceans eat the zooplankton and are then eaten by larger fish, that means those compounds could now be working their way up the food chain, they said.

• Three months after BP shut off the flow of oil, scientists searching the floor of the gulf found a colony of deep sea corals that were covered in what they described as "frothy gunk." They were in the area where undersea plumes of oil had been spotted. Nearly half were dead. Extensive tests resulted in a finding, released just last month, that the culprit was in fact oil from Deepwater Horizon.

• This month, crews from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service fanned out to rivers across the coast to catch and take samples from sturgeon swimming upstream from the gulf to spawn. The reason: When scientists examined the sturgeon that swam upriver last year, they found "significant levels" of DNA fragmentation in the 300-pound fish that could have been caused by exposure to the oil spill, said wildlife service chief investigator Glenn Constant.

"It can lead to a number of abnormalities, such as cancer, tumors, challenges to their immune systems," Constant said. Reproduction could falter, too, he said.

• A survey last summer by USF scientists found that the highest frequency of fish diseases occurred in the area where the oil spill was. While scientists were initially cautious about attributing the lesions on red snapper and other fish to Deepwater Horizon, subsequent laboratory tests have all but eliminated everything other than the oil from the spill as the cause.

"It would be hard to argue otherwise," USF scientist David Hollander said this month.

• Biologists have become alarmed about how many bottlenose dolphins are washing ashore sick or dead across the gulf, from Texas to Florida — more than 600 during a time when the normal average is 74 a year. In Louisiana's Barataria Bay, where waves of thick oil washed in throughout the spill, dozens of dolphins have been found suffering symptoms of liver and lung disease and possible immune system failures.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/environment...rs/1225134

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 91201 04-19-2012 05:05 PM

Deepwater Horizon aftermath: how much is a dolphin worth?

Two years after the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster, BP and US authorities wrangle over how much should be paid in damages:

The dolphins are preserved in giant freezers in marine labs across America. Tagged, catalogued, carefully guarded – and suspended in liquid nitrogen for the moment when they will determine BP's final bill for the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster, which started two years ago this Friday.

The dolphins, among more than 700 that have washed up on Gulf shores since the last two years, are a crucial component of the investigation now underway to decide the cost to BP of restoring the wildlife and environment damaged by the biggest offshore spill in US history.

The carcasses were collected – on at least one occasion by armed federal officials, and generally with witnesses from BP – from marine science facilities on the Gulf coast and transported to labs across the country. Scientists are evaluating their tissue for evidence of exposure to hydrocarbons from the runaway well, as part of the lengthy process of accounting for environmental damage to the Gulf.

At its most basic, the process now consuming teams of BP and government scientists and lawyers revolves around this: How much is a dolphin worth, and how exactly did it die?

How much lasting harm was done by the oil that still occasionally washes up on beaches, or remains as splotches on the ocean floor near the site of BP's broken well? What can be done to turn the clock back, and restore the wildlife and environment to levels that would have existed if there had not been a spill?

Wednesday's proposed $7.8bn settlement between BP and more than 100,000 people suing for economic damages due takes the oil company a step closer to consigning the spill to the past. BP is moving towards a settlement with the federal government and the governments of Louisiana and Mississippi. It could also face criminal charges.

But arguably the most difficult negotiation still lies ahead as BP and the federal government try to establish how much damage was done to the environment as a direct result of the oil spill, and how much the company will have to pay to set things right.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20...phin-worth

**Ðґℙ☺ṧ⊥мαη** · (This post was last modified: 04-19-2012 05:21 PM by Ðґℙ☺ṧ⊥мαη.)

FaFaFooey Wrote:

San Fran dungeness crab still safe...and yummy too...Doesnt glow in the dark or ooze anything...YET

But you can't get abalone there like you used to. Rare as hell from
what I understand. From what I've heard there are restrictions of
all sorts on them and you can still eat what you catch. Is that right?

FaFaFooey Wrote:

So the dealer is the good guy and the junkie is a demon?..I have that correct?

Unfortunately the addict has to hit bottom before they ask for help.
And yes, I'm speaking from personal experience.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 80924 04-19-2012 05:24 PM

diggerbanks Wrote:

DanfromtheHills Wrote:
f*ck you BP.

You can all carry on blaming BP but as long as you do so you are ignoring the collective responsibility.

BP weren't drilling there for fun. They were drilling there because your (our) demand means oil companies have to find oil in places that are more inaccessible, and more difficult to extract. If BP hadn't been there someone else would.

You love to have your demons when in fact, en masse, you are the demon.

THAT'S a CROCK OF BP BS!!!

Its NOT that anybody is AGAISNST BEEpEEEE drilling or anyone else for that matter. Its the fact that they generate so much MONEY and they have GEO-SCIENTISTS and studies and they are CAPABLE of KNOWING perfectly well where they should drill and should NOT drill.
They were WARNED to NOT drill where they did and LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.

I am all for drilling and I live here on the coast.
But if you can't do your drilling without massive killing then LEAVE THE WATERS alone.

So I say DRILL MUTHA-FOCKER DRILL!!! But don't DESTROY US in doing it. And when you DO create a massive muck-up like you did then ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY not only for the immediate outcome but for the later destruction as well.

Quit DENYING you caused this and step up and try to FIX IT. Quit buying off scientists and government and university professors. Quit buddying up with the IRS and EPA and other agencies and THREATENING OUR FISHERMEN with LIENS, AUDITS, and PROPERTY SEIZURE just because THEY are exposing what is REALLY HAPPENING to our sealife!

YOU, BEEPEE, DUMPED carelessly a known illegal substance called COREXIT into OUR waters and f*cked up everything. You can't even use this crap in EUROPE but you used it HERE KNOWING what it can do to life as we know it.
And you are STILL DUMPING IT 2 YEARS LATER. bastards all of you.

Had you IDIOTS just let the oil GUSHER flow instead of making it POISONOUS and INVISIBLE to the naked eye, we could've CLEANED IT UP as it came in.
But no....you dumped MORE POISON IN (COREXIT) and now its really effed up.

So YOU stand by BEEPEE and BLAME US citizens for this mess just because we drive cars. MEA CULPA, BUT these oil GIANTS need to also be held far more accountable than WE.
From your line of reasoning we may as well blame the chicken for salmonella and the sun for earthquakes...but NEVER put the blame where it belongs.
Think about it.
Respectfully.

**Uh!** lop guest User ID: 36055 04-19-2012 06:39 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

diggerbanks Wrote:
DanfromtheHills Wrote:
f*ck you BP.

You can all carry on blaming BP but as long as you do so you are ignoring the collective responsibility.

BP weren't drilling there for fun. They were drilling there because your (our) demand means oil companies have to find oil in places that are more inaccessible, and more difficult to extract. If BP hadn't been there someone else would.

You love to have your demons when in fact, en masse, you are the demon.
THAT'S a CROCK OF BP BS!!!

Its NOT that anybody is AGAISNST BEEpEEEE drilling or anyone else for that matter. Its the fact that they generate so much MONEY and they have GEO-SCIENTISTS and studies and they are CAPABLE of KNOWING perfectly well where they should drill and should NOT drill.
They were WARNED to NOT drill where they did and LOOK WHAT HAPPENED.

I am all for drilling and I live here on the coast.
But if you can't do your drilling without massive killing then LEAVE THE WATERS alone.

So I say DRILL MUTHA-FOCKER DRILL!!! But don't DESTROY US in doing it. And when you DO create a massive muck-up like you did then ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY not only for the immediate outcome but for the later destruction as well.

Quit DENYING you caused this and step up and try to FIX IT. Quit buying off scientists and government and university professors. Quit buddying up with the IRS and EPA and other agencies and THREATENING OUR FISHERMEN with LIENS, AUDITS, and PROPERTY SEIZURE just because THEY are exposing what is REALLY HAPPENING to our sealife!

YOU, BEEPEE, DUMPED carelessly a known illegal substance called COREXIT into OUR waters and f*cked up everything. You can't even use this crap in EUROPE but you used it HERE KNOWING what it can do to life as we know it.
And you are STILL DUMPING IT 2 YEARS LATER. bastards all of you.

Had you IDIOTS just let the oil GUSHER flow instead of making it POISONOUS and INVISIBLE to the naked eye, we could've CLEANED IT UP as it came in.
But no....you dumped MORE POISON IN (COREXIT) and now its really effed up.

So YOU stand by BEEPEE and BLAME US citizens for this mess just because we drive cars. MEA CULPA, BUT these oil GIANTS need to also be held far more accountable than WE.
From your line of reasoning we may as well blame the chicken for salmonella and the sun for earthquakes...but NEVER put the blame where it belongs.
Think about it.
Respectfully.

Calm down and remember, the government TOLD them to use more of that corexit stuff over and over when BP said that the oil wouldn't be much of a problem. Remember, the envirmentalists whined up a storm to get the government to MAKE BP do something about the oil and thats why so much corexit was dumped into the gulf. and remember, oil is natural and corexit is manmade.

If you want to think about what the oil would do you might want to look at the studies done after that massive blowout off the coast of Mexico in '79 that probably dumped more oil into the gulf than the BP blowout did.
Ixtoc oil spill

So thank your local enviromentalist and the knee jerk poll driven government for the results, and not BP so much.

And remember too that Haliburton was actually in charge of the part of the job that failed and may have destroyed the evidence of their activities after the spill. But of course they do lots of work for the government in other areas so they may have gotten off light for their part in the mess.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 91251 04-19-2012 09:00 PM

Red Auroras Wrote:

I've never been a huge shrimp fan but now I'm wondering if it's too late to stock up on Alaskan salmon before the effects of Fukeshima produce similar results. What's a good link nowadays for monitoring radiation levels?

Love that red alaska salmon gulf is probly a chemical sewer but they aint gonna tellus hope bummer gotta huge campaign donation from bp whatta buncha puckered a-holes. Scream1

**FaFaFooey**

DrPostman Wrote:

FaFaFooey Wrote:
San Fran dungeness crab still safe...and yummy too...Doesnt glow in the dark or ooze anything...YET
But you can't get abalone there like you used to. Rare as hell from
what I understand. From what I've heard there are restrictions of
all sorts on them and you can still eat what you catch. Is that right?

At the Crystal Springs Reservoir abalone is abundant but illegal to fish.
Pretty easy to ditch the fish and game guys..so under funded..