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**Shakey1** · **Shakey1** Subscriber User ID: 93885 05-01-2012 04:34 PM **Posts: 11,998**

NEESIE Wrote:

you people do understand today is also the birthday of the illuminati?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1#section_1

**Celt** lop guest User ID: 93742 05-01-2012 04:52 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Beltane or Beltaine is the anglicised spelling of Old Irish Bel(l)taine or Beltine (modern Irish Bealtaine [ˈbʲal̪ˠt̪ˠənʲə], Scottish Gaelic Bealltainn [ˈbʲal̪ˠt̪ˠənʲ]), the Gaelic name for either the month of May or the festival that takes place on the first day of May.

Bealtaine was historically a Gaelic festival celebrated in Ireland, Scotland and the Isle of Man. Bealtaine and Samhain were the leading terminal dates of the civil year in medieval Ireland, though the latter festival was the more important. The festival regained popularity during the Celtic Revival and remains observed in the Celtic Nations and the Irish diaspora.

In Irish Gaelic, the month of May is known as Mí Bhealtaine or Bealtaine, and the festival as Lá Bealtaine ('day of Bealtaine' or, 'May Day'). In Scottish Gaelic, the month is known as either (An) Cèitean or a' Mhàigh, and the festival is known as Latha Bealltainn or simply Bealltainn. The feast was also known as Céad Shamhain or Cétshamhainin from which the word Céitean derives. Beltane was formerly spelled 'Bealtuinn' in Scottish Gaelic; in Manx it is spelt 'Boaltinn' or 'Boaldyn'. In Modern Irish, Oidhche Bealtaine or Oíche Bealtaine is May Eve, and Lá Bealtaine is May Day. Mí na Bealtaine, or simply Bealtaine is the name of the month of May.

In Neopaganism, Bealtaine is considered a cross-quarter day, marking the midpoint in the Sun's progress between the spring equinox and summer solstice. The astronomical date for this midpoint is closer to 5 May or 7 May, but this can vary from year to year.

Happy Beltaine to you, as well! Glad to see there are still some people out there still honouring the Old Ways! I ought to have a bon-fire tonight to celebrate!

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 93585 05-01-2012 05:02 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

I am pretty sure Beltane was celebrated in all Celtic lands at one time. Which would include all of France, the Netherlands, Spain, even down through the Balkans.

It's too bad those people were Romanized, and then soon after force converted to Christianity. I wonder how much better the world would be today if we still followed the Druidic Religion, which is for man to be in balance with nature, vs Christianity which brought materialism, greed, and domination of men over women.

Don't be stupid.

Druids practiced human ritual sacrifice.

BEL is the old Assyrian Devil/Destroyer false "God."

Have fun with that in your life.

ME: NO WAY.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 55564 05-01-2012 05:03 PM

Shakey1 Wrote:

This day seems super duper occult to me (and in my mind, I have a negative connotation with that phrase), but if you crazy May Day kids just like to fornicate or do non harmful shit on this day, then I say keep it real, and consider wearing a rubber. Or ask if she's on the pill. Just, please don't engage in ritual human sacrifice for the appeasement of dark gods, or for any reason

It has nothing to do with the occult, it is simply a pre-christian holiday. The same as Christmas and Easter.

Are you one of those Christian fundamentalists who believes anything not Christian comes from Satan?

**Celt** lop guest User ID: 93742 05-01-2012 05:04 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

I am pretty sure Beltane was celebrated in all Celtic lands at one time. Which would include all of France, the Netherlands, Spain, even down through the Balkans.

It's too bad those people were Romanized, and then soon after force converted to Christianity. I wonder how much better the world would be today if we still followed the Druidic Religion, which is for man to be in balance with nature, vs Christianity which brought materialism, greed, and domination of men over women.

You are quite right, though linguistic variations were likely present.

As for your second point, I totally agree. The Celts, in a more barbaric way, had more in common with Budhists, Native Americans, etc., than they ever will have with Christianity. There's a story about the Tuatha De' Danann that tells of how a character of an enemy race (Fomorians, I believe) came to the Tuatha and offered to them the power to have year round crop production, dairy production, etc. The Tuatha De' Danann refused, saying they had all they needed which nature provided for them, and they would not accept a power which would throw them out of balance with nature. For those who don't know, the Tuatha De' Danann were the origins of many of the Celtic gods in myth, however, there is probably more truth to their story than historians would have us believe. We must consider that much of the early Celtic myth and legend was actualy a record of their history, and when the christians came, they destroyed much of the memory of the Celtic culture, and rewrote their history to make it appear that the Celts were descendants of Noah, which is false. Reading between the lines of the Celtic myths, one can find many clues as to their true history and origins. It's very sad what the false religion of christianity has done to the world, not just to the pagan Europeans.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 55564 05-01-2012 05:07 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
I am pretty sure Beltane was celebrated in all Celtic lands at one time. Which would include all of France, the Netherlands, Spain, even down through the Balkans.

It's too bad those people were Romanized, and then soon after force converted to Christianity. I wonder how much better the world would be today if we still followed the Druidic Religion, which is for man to be in balance with nature, vs Christianity which brought materialism, greed, and domination of men over women.

Don't be stupid.

Druids practiced human ritual sacrifice.

BEL is the old Assyrian Devil/Destroyer false "God."

Have fun with that in your life.

ME: NO WAY.

Why is he a false God? Because you said so? Sorry I need more than your word to accept it.

He is no more false than any other god or God.

Those sacrificed were prisoners, or those convicted of crimes. How is that any different from Christians who burned witches and non believes in f*cking barnfires? At least those "sacrificed" were not tortured to death, much like non believing christians were.

You forget the world of 2000 or more years ago was hardly the world of today. Christians and non christians alike had practices which people today would find appalling.

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 93585 05-01-2012 05:08 PM

Celt Wrote:

You are quite right, though linguistic variations were likely present.

As for your second point, I totally agree. The Celts, in a more barbaric way, had more in common with Budhists, Native Americans, etc., than they ever will have with Christianity. There's a story about the Tuatha De' Danann that tells of how a character of an enemy race (Fomorians, I believe) came to the Tuatha and offered to them the power to have year round crop production, dairy production, etc.

Wow you people are woefully stupid.

The Tuatha de'Danann worshipped ISIS. Each spring infants were sacrificed to her.

Nice ritual eh?

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 93585 05-01-2012 05:10 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
I am pretty sure Beltane was celebrated in all Celtic lands at one time. Which would include all of France, the Netherlands, Spain, even down through the Balkans.

It's too bad those people were Romanized, and then soon after force converted to Christianity. I wonder how much better the world would be today if we still followed the Druidic Religion, which is for man to be in balance with nature, vs Christianity which brought materialism, greed, and domination of men over women.

Don't be stupid.

Druids practiced human ritual sacrifice.

BEL is the old Assyrian Devil/Destroyer false "God."

Have fun with that in your life.

ME: NO WAY.

Why is he a false God? Because you said so? Sorry I need more than your word to accept it.

He is no more false than any other god or God.

Those sacrificed were prisoners, or those convicted of crimes. How is that any different from Christians who burned witches and non believes in f*cking barnfires? At least those "sacrificed" were not tortured to death, much like non believing christians were.

You forget the world of 2000 or more years ago was hardly the world of today. Christians and non christians alike had practices which people today would find appalling.

YES "BEL" is a FALSE GOD because "he" doesn't exist, except in the minds of those who believe fiction. "Bel" DID NOT CREATE YOU OR THE EARTH YOU LIVE UPON WHICH SUPPORTS YOU.

CHRISTIANITY is just another PAGAN or ANTI-CREATOR religion.

ALL RELIGIONS MADE BY MAN ARE FALSE.

Scream1

WAKE UP!!!

**Celt** lop guest User ID: 93742 05-01-2012 05:12 PM

Shakey1 Wrote:

This day seems super duper occult to me (and in my mind, I have a negative connotation with that phrase), but if you crazy May Day kids just like to fornicate or do non harmful shit on this day, then I say keep it real, and consider wearing a rubber. Or ask if she's on the pill. Just, please don't engage in ritual human sacrifice for the appeasement of dark gods, or for any reason

You are a paranoid dellusional, and your mind has been corrupted with the propaganda geared towards making the people fear the Old Pagan ways. Human sacrifice?! Please! That was rare amongst pagans, if the romans are to be believed. Also, Beltaine has nothing to do with some hippy free sex festival! It is one of the old fire festivals, a celebration of nature and the changing of seasons. Actually, Ester was the spring festival, whereas Beltaine is the ushering in of early summer, so it bears similarities to a spring fest. It was a fertility festival, not only for agriculture, but also for young women who would soon be married or who had recently been married and awaiting to bear children. There were games which the girls played, and the winners were said would be the first to marry, or so on. All your fear mongering does is show your ignorance to those of us who know what we're talking about. The pagans existed long before the christians and illuminati, and it's not the fault of pagans that the christians and illuminati stole all of our holidays in a blatand attempt to corrupt their meaning and purposes!

**LoP Guest** lop guest User ID: 55564 05-01-2012 05:13 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Celt Wrote:
You are quite right, though linguistic variations were likely present.

As for your second point, I totally agree. The Celts, in a more barbaric way, had more in common with Budhists, Native Americans, etc., than they ever will have with Christianity. There's a story about the Tuatha De' Danann that tells of how a character of an enemy race (Fomorians, I believe) came to the Tuatha and offered to them the power to have year round crop production, dairy production, etc.

Wow you people are woefully stupid.

The Tuatha de'Danann worshipped ISIS. Each spring infants were sacrificed to her.

Nice ritual eh?

What ignorant fundamentalist told you that? Reference please? otherwise you are talking your ass.

**Ragnar Ragnarsson**

Celt Wrote:

Shakey1 Wrote:
This day seems super duper occult to me (and in my mind, I have a negative connotation with that phrase), but if you crazy May Day kids just like to fornicate or do non harmful shit on this day, then I say keep it real, and consider wearing a rubber. Or ask if she's on the pill. Just, please don't engage in ritual human sacrifice for the appeasement of dark gods, or for any reason

You are a paranoid dellusional, and your mind has been corrupted with the propaganda geared towards making the people fear the Old Pagan ways. Human sacrifice?! Please! That was rare amongst pagans, if the romans are to be believed. Also, Beltaine has nothing to do with some hippy free sex festival! It is one of the old fire festivals, a celebration of nature and the changing of seasons. Actually, Ester was the spring festival, whereas Beltaine is the ushering in of early summer, so it bears similarities to a spring fest. It was a fertility festival, not only for agriculture, but also for young women who would soon be married or who had recently been married and awaiting to bear children. There were games which the girls played, and the winners were said would be the first to marry, or so on. All your fear mongering does is show your ignorance to those of us who know what we're talking about. The pagans existed long before the christians and illuminati, and it's not the fault of pagans that the christians and illuminati stole all of our holidays in a blatand attempt to corrupt their meaning and purposes!

+1

Well said.

To the fundamentalists and Christians I would say, is it not obvious that you have been lied to? Do you not realize that the early missionaries and preachers used propaganda against Pagans just as our enemies and our own states use propaganda today?

Don't fall for the religious propaganda, do your own research and you will be shocked to realize that the christian propaganda of the Celts and druids is nothing more than outright lies born of hatred.

Do yourselves a favor, research about the Gnostics of Occitania in modern day France during the middle ages. And how the church slaughtered 150,000 men, women, and children, simply because they did not adhere to church doctrine. Would you choose to believe a religion that has been built on lies since the beginning?

**Shakey1** · **Shakey1** Subscriber User ID: 93885 05-01-2012 05:22 PM **Posts: 11,998**

Tomato, tomato. Have fun. I believe there are dark supernatural entities as part of our human undercurrent, and that they have influenced the course of our history and can affect us individually as well. Have fun tonight. If you don't believe in my point of view, that's f*cking cool. I understand that paganism predates Christianity, et al, and that there was some admixture in the religious structures early on and that many of those characteristics persist.

Celt Wrote:

Shakey1 Wrote:
This day seems super duper occult to me (and in my mind, I have a negative connotation with that phrase), but if you crazy May Day kids just like to fornicate or do non harmful shit on this day, then I say keep it real, and consider wearing a rubber. Or ask if she's on the pill. Just, please don't engage in ritual human sacrifice for the appeasement of dark gods, or for any reason

You are a paranoid dellusional, and your mind has been corrupted with the propaganda geared towards making the people fear the Old Pagan ways. Human sacrifice?! Please! That was rare amongst pagans, if the romans are to be believed. Also, Beltaine has nothing to do with some hippy free sex festival! It is one of the old fire festivals, a celebration of nature and the changing of seasons. Actually, Ester was the spring festival, whereas Beltaine is the ushering in of early summer, so it bears similarities to a spring fest. It was a fertility festival, not only for agriculture, but also for young women who would soon be married or who had recently been married and awaiting to bear children. There were games which the girls played, and the winners were said would be the first to marry, or so on. All your fear mongering does is show your ignorance to those of us who know what we're talking about. The pagans existed long before the christians and illuminati, and it's not the fault of pagans that the christians and illuminati stole all of our holidays in a blatand attempt to corrupt their meaning and purposes!

**Celt** lop guest User ID: 93742 05-01-2012 05:22 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

LoP Guest Wrote:
LoP Guest Wrote:
Don't be stupid.

Druids practiced human ritual sacrifice.

BEL is the old Assyrian Devil/Destroyer false "God."

Have fun with that in your life.

ME: NO WAY.

Why is he a false God? Because you said so? Sorry I need more than your word to accept it.

He is no more false than any other god or God.

Those sacrificed were prisoners, or those convicted of crimes. How is that any different from Christians who burned witches and non believes in f*cking barnfires? At least those "sacrificed" were not tortured to death, much like non believing christians were.

You forget the world of 2000 or more years ago was hardly the world of today. Christians and non christians alike had practices which people today would find appalling.

YES "BEL" is a FALSE GOD because "he" doesn't exist, except in the minds of those who believe fiction. "Bel" DID NOT CREATE YOU OR THE EARTH YOU LIVE UPON WHICH SUPPORTS YOU.

CHRISTIANITY is just another PAGAN or ANTI-CREATOR religion.

ALL RELIGIONS MADE BY MAN ARE FALSE.

WAKE UP!!!

Bel, or any other foreign diety has nothing to do with the Celtic traditions. The so-called gods of the Celts were mere personifications of the forces of nature, and much like the Budhists, the Celts had a deeply rooted belief in the concept of universal oneness- the idea that all souls, all life and energy is connected. The Celts, for the most part, honoured Nature. The allegations of human sacrifice was part of a smear campaign by the romans. Although there may very well have been human sacrifice, it was very rare, and usually only under the most extreme surcumstances. All this fear-mongering is not conducive to a spiritual life. Quit pretending to understand the liguistic dialects and their possible connections to other cultures. More often than naught, these similarities are mere coincidence. I have studied the history of the Celts rather extensively, as these are my anscestors. This is the culture I ought to have been raised in, and in my life I preserve these ways. I am no satanist or athiest. I'm not a devil worshipper or demon worshipper, and I am not evil, nor are my spiritual ways. If you can't respect the spirtual views of people on this completely harmless, non-offensive, non-oppressive thread, then I suggest you leave and find a christian thread where fear-mongering and ignorance is not only welcome, but a requirement!

**DanfromtheHills**

Indeed, Happy Beltane!

**Celt** lop guest User ID: 93742 05-01-2012 05:26 PM

LoP Guest Wrote:

Celt Wrote:
You are quite right, though linguistic variations were likely present.

As for your second point, I totally agree. The Celts, in a more barbaric way, had more in common with Budhists, Native Americans, etc., than they ever will have with Christianity. There's a story about the Tuatha De' Danann that tells of how a character of an enemy race (Fomorians, I believe) came to the Tuatha and offered to them the power to have year round crop production, dairy production, etc.

Wow you people are woefully stupid.

The Tuatha de'Danann worshipped ISIS. Each spring infants were sacrificed to her.
Nice ritual eh?

Who are you calling stupid? Isis?!?! She is an Egyptian goddess. We're not talking about Egyptians. I was referring to the Tuatha De' Danann- the people of Danu- a river goddess- after whom the Danube river was named. She is a personification of the feminine energies of water- the life bringer (not life taker). Why must you lunatics always blaspheme the Old Ways which you clearly know less about than you do of the truth behind christianity?! (Which isn't saying much.)