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Have you noticed a trend in people discussing Sociialism?
Komorkis
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05-20-2012 05:55 PM

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Post: #46
RE: Have you noticed a trend in people discussing Sociialism?
Psychonaut  Wrote:
Komorkis  Wrote:
Psychonaut  Wrote:
All forms of centralized government lead to increased centralization eventually, no matter the label. Right up to the point where they consume themselves. Then after the chaos of implosion/revolution everybody makes promises to each other that they will forever be vigilant and never allow past transgressions to ever happen again....and within one human generation some group gets the bright idea to try something (new chuckle) that has been tried and failed countless times over the eons in one form of or another- thinking "this time will be different".....Cheer


It's all part of the cycle within the helices of time/space and the grand cosmic joke.

What is the best way to organize groups of people and apply rule sets? Should a new organizational structure be developed or should something be used that has already been established?

I'm just another monkey in a clown suit that likes to take long looks over recorded time and point out the obvious.

The idea of universal human liberty seems to be most beneficial to the most people at any given time, but that takes vigilance and a dedicated willingness to engage in personal risk when needed to maintain it. Obviously, some generations just aren't up for it.

Ideals such as liberty are fostered deep within the soul and when humanity reaches that point of transformation those ideals spring forth from a spinning vortex of collective thought, like a principled projectile, demanding it's rightful application.

You don't look like a monkey in a clown suit, you look like a crazy Doctor who can figure things out, but always through a series of mistakes and miscalculations.
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Psychonaut
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05-20-2012 05:58 PM

 



Post: #47
RE: Have you noticed a trend in people discussing Sociialism?
Twatwaffle  Wrote:
Psychonaut  Wrote:
The idea of universal human liberty seems to be most beneficial to the most people at any given time, but that takes vigilance and a dedicated willingness to engage in personal risk when needed to maintain it. Obviously, some generations just aren't up for it.

We had better be.

Once completely lost to a burgeoning surveillance-technocracy, it will be nary impossible to regain.

Every system of control implodes eventually. That fact may or may not do "we the living" any good....chuckle
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Psychonaut
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Post: #48
RE: Have you noticed a trend in people discussing Sociialism?
Komorkis  Wrote:
Psychonaut  Wrote:
Komorkis  Wrote:
What is the best way to organize groups of people and apply rule sets? Should a new organizational structure be developed or should something be used that has already been established?

I'm just another monkey in a clown suit that likes to take long looks over recorded time and point out the obvious.

The idea of universal human liberty seems to be most beneficial to the most people at any given time, but that takes vigilance and a dedicated willingness to engage in personal risk when needed to maintain it. Obviously, some generations just aren't up for it.

Ideals such as liberty are fostered deep within the soul and when humanity reaches that point of transformation those ideals spring forth from a spinning vortex of collective thought, like a principled projectile, demanding it's rightful application.

You don't look like a monkey in a clown suit, you look like a crazy Doctor who can figure things out, but always through a series of mistakes and miscalculations.

Is there any other way?

Heartflowers
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Komorkis
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05-20-2012 06:05 PM

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RE: Have you noticed a trend in people discussing Sociialism?
I believe the Constitution is a coded message that can only be deciphered when a politician/lawyer is upside-down and standing on their head cross eyed.

The words have a somewhat holy biblical meaning to many Americans, like the metaphorical living word. You can apply their broad assertions in any context to any circumstance and be correct with your position and faith in your homeland.
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Komorkis
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05-20-2012 06:16 PM

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RE: Have you noticed a trend in people discussing Sociialism?
Psychonaut  Wrote:
Komorkis  Wrote:
Psychonaut  Wrote:
I'm just another monkey in a clown suit that likes to take long looks over recorded time and point out the obvious.

The idea of universal human liberty seems to be most beneficial to the most people at any given time, but that takes vigilance and a dedicated willingness to engage in personal risk when needed to maintain it. Obviously, some generations just aren't up for it.

Ideals such as liberty are fostered deep within the soul and when humanity reaches that point of transformation those ideals spring forth from a spinning vortex of collective thought, like a principled projectile, demanding it's rightful application.

You don't look like a monkey in a clown suit, you look like a crazy Doctor who can figure things out, but always through a series of mistakes and miscalculations.

Is there any other way?

Heartflowers

No, but some offer better examples and are more attractive in mistake mode than others.

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Enaid
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05-20-2012 06:40 PM

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Post: #51
RE: Have you noticed a trend in people discussing Sociialism?
Is anyone going to comment?
Before you wish for socialism --- you should know what you are wishing for.



In the past -- socialism didn't work that way.

Find some old imigrants from a socialist country.
I did.
They own a restaurant - we sat and talked for a couple hours.Oh, man the stories they shared. They laughed at how our current youth is describing it.

Socialism in the past is nothing like you described.
One example -
If you don't have the correct papers - you can't get a job. If you've pissed off the wrong person - you can't get the correct papers to get a job. Welfare - none.

If you didn't act like they wanted - they treated you terribly.


I suggest - people talke to someone who has lived in socialism.
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