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High Fructose Corn Syrup = poison
Brunhilda
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RE: High Fructose Corn Syrup = poison
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I work hard to keep it out of my diet but it is everywhere
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Post: #17
RE: High Fructose Corn Syrup = poison
Getting rid of HFCS will do nothing about the fat problem in the U.S. It's all about inactivity and overeating.

Move electronic devices equals inactivity, and more effective advertising equals overeating.

Every television program and commercial now contains images of people eating to stimulate viewer's appetites, even when they're not hungry in the least. Advertisers learn all about this with movie theaters, and applied it to television. Show viewers their favorite television charters eating pizza, and their viewers crave pizza. It's simple psychology gone mad.
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tasha-ann
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RE: High Fructose Corn Syrup = poison
I've just read an artivle on this and it is now believed that corn syrup has addictive qualities similar to crack. Thats why you can't just eat one buscuit or that tub of icecream dissappears before you know it. I can agree with this as I've seen the same addiction based eating in myself. Try stopping eating this shit and for the first few days you experience withdrawal and craving. We used to go mcdonalds a lot and eventually you feel like you need to go every day. We only go once a fortnight now and now I don't yearn for mc shit anymore.
corn syrup is crack for food giants

http://wellbeingmagazine.co.uk/article/children-corn
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Post: #19
RE: High Fructose Corn Syrup = poison
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-13-2012 12:21 AM)
The other reason to avoid HFCS is that to process the C, NaOH is used.

Nothing wrong with NaOH - except that to make NaOH, they use Hg, and some of that Hg gets into the NaOH. Which then gets into the C. Which then gets into the HFCS. Which then gets into YOU.

that was certainly true in the old days. they're supposed to have stopped using acid and base reagents generated from mercury cell processes for food prep.
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Occifer Plod
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your poison is my pleasure. the only thing that kills me, is me.

Judge Thyself.
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Blue Waffle
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RE: High Fructose Corn Syrup = poison
diggerbanks  Wrote: (07-13-2012 09:32 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-13-2012 12:18 AM)
Everything you said pretty much goes for regular sugar as well. Don't get me wrong I'm not standing up for HFCS but I think a lot of people are under the impression that if HFCS was wiped off the planet and replaced with real sugar, the health problems would go away, and that's not true. The problem is the amount of fructose we are consuming, and "HFCS is either 42 percent or 55 percent fructose, and sucrose is 50 percent fructose, so it's really a wash in terms of sweetness." Not that much difference in fructose. So I guess in some way I can see why the corn industry gets upset that the target is on HFCS, they could go back to using more expensive natural sugar, as long as people want to live on a diet of shitty food, the health problems will still be there.

There is a twist with HFCS. Sugar is bad yes but it metabolises quite naturally. HFCS does not.

Does no one think that the rise in the use and ingestion of HFCS and the fact that obesity has risen so dramatically in that time is linked?

It screams at me. Get rid of this shit. And tell your government to stop subsidising it. It is bad news.

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Jptdknpa

Monsanto Shill Alert..

They are pushing GMO beets.. sugar beets.

1. Demonize Corn sugar
2. Release a bad batch of Worm resistant Corn
3. Panic over glazed donuts ensues

4. Sell tons of super profitable beet seeds that are drought resistant.

IDIOTs the lot of you.
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Post: #23
RE: High Fructose Corn Syrup = poison
have another bottle of Coca-Cola. It's supposed to be "original" formula, but it's got HFCS in it, how "original" is that?
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Celestialguardian
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Post: #24
RE: High Fructose Corn Syrup = poison
Their is sadly only one reason it is added into the human food chain via the manufactured synthetic food plants.

Fiscal profit ....

and sadly that runs through out the society of the western world, as it is under the realm of the corporate agenda of world domination. the Cabal elite, had one goal and it has many arms into many areas, all for one reason in outcome. total control. See empty robotics devoid of understanding to natures balances. has your world in a grip. Satan has your world in a squeeze.

You the living light in wonder and exploration are under assault, in ways you have been directed never to recognise as ways to bring you down. but that is what is happening. only the individual can break the grip. only One at a time can make the choice. eat of controlled man and eat death, eat of natures god given gifts and eat for life.

it is always your own personal choice, and we the ascended brothers and sisters watch you surly come to this conclusion. Bravo for making your stand of reason. it is the good start.

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Post: #25
RE: High Fructose Corn Syrup = poison
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-13-2012 11:28 AM)
have another bottle of Coca-Cola. It's supposed to be "original" formula, but it's got HFCS in it, how "original" is that?

Why is Mexican Coke sharing the same shelf as regular Coke? The answer is simple: it has a cult following that has created quite a demand. This sugar-sweetened soda ranks high on the list of foodies across the country and even has a Facebook page with thousands of followers. Its fans believe that Mexican Coke has a "more real, authentic flavor," though the Coca-Cola company denies that there's a discernible difference between any of their cokes.

Coke spokesman Scott Williamson told Rob Walker of the New York Times that despite the different use of sweeteners “all of our consumer research indicates that from a taste standpoint, the difference is imperceptible.” We decided to find out for ourselves: is there a palatable difference between regular Coke and Mexican Coke? Or are people just charmed by Mexican Coke's nostalgic glass bottle? Our team of 20 editors conducted a taste test to get real answers.

The Verdict

Twenty editors blind taste-tested the two cokes, side by side, and found ...

85 percent of our tasters could tell the difference between regular Coke and Mexican Coke.
80 percent of our tasters preferred Mexican Coke to regular Coke.


Here's what our tasters thought:

Regular Coke: "Tastes thicker, sweeter." "Didn't taste good, kind of bland." "Has interesting, almost vanilla, aftertaste, yet weird chemical flavor at first." "Tang -- long aftertaste."

Mexican Coke: "Viva Coca-Cola Mexicana!" "I don't really like soda, but the sugar variety is quite palatable." "Has a cleaner, less artificial flavor." "A little brighter." "Seems sweeter." "Feels thicker." "Pure bubbles."

Other: "Couldn't really taste the difference." "Difference is slight, can't pick a favorite."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/07...24282.html
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RE: High Fructose Corn Syrup = poison
Well it is fructose, the same type of natural sugar found in fruits.

Its way too refined tho and all refined sugars should only be used in moderation.

What one sees within oneself, so shall one become.

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Post: #27
RE: High Fructose Corn Syrup = poison
tasha-ann  Wrote: (07-13-2012 10:24 AM)
I've just read an artivle on this and it is now believed that corn syrup has addictive qualities similar to crack. Thats why you can't just eat one buscuit or that tub of icecream dissappears before you know it. I can agree with this as I've seen the same addiction based eating in myself. Try stopping eating this shit and for the first few days you experience withdrawal and craving. We used to go mcdonalds a lot and eventually you feel like you need to go every day. We only go once a fortnight now and now I don't yearn for mc shit anymore.
corn syrup is crack for food giants

http://wellbeingmagazine.co.uk/article/children-corn

Once again, same thing as sugar. Sugar is addictive. Sugar causes withdrawals. Sugar will have you craving certain things every day. HFCS is a slightly different arrangement of the molecules that make up sugar. I could feed you a nice meal and dessert loaded with the most beautiful organic natural sugar in the world, and you would feel withdrawals if that was taken away from you as well.

The anti-HFCS campaign must clearly be working because I am seeing a thread full of people who think HFCS is lightyears worse than sugar but it's just not true. Again I do not support HFCS I would love to see it totally removed from people's diets but SUGAR would need to go as well.
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Post: #28
RE: High Fructose Corn Syrup = poison
diggerbanks  Wrote: (07-13-2012 09:32 AM)
There is a twist with HFCS. Sugar is bad yes but it metabolises quite naturally. HFCS does not.

Does no one think that the rise in the use and ingestion of HFCS and the fact that obesity has risen so dramatically in that time is linked?

It screams at me. Get rid of this shit. And tell your government to stop subsidising it. It is bad news.

Bump

Can you defend your statements here? It doesn't metabolize all that differently from regular sugar. Have you read or watched any of the material from Robert Lustig? He clearly explains, the problem is the amount of fructose. Fructose can only be metabolized in the liver before being put to use in the body. Glucose doesn't need to use the liver like that. And referring back to the statistic I posted on page one, pure traditional table sugar is 50% fructose, whereas HFCS is 42 percent or 55 percent fructose.

Yes as the rise of HFCS happened people got fatter. But my position on this is that if we had never created HFCS and simply started dumping regular sugar into breads, pastas, ketchups, milks, sodas, and everything else, as we did with HFCS, we'd have the same health problems. But regular sugar may have never invaded so many products like that, HFCS did because it was cheap, easy to make, and readily available. If all we ever had was regular sugar, we may have used it more sparingly since it was not in such abundant supply.

This is just a silly argument to have. This is what anyone who thinks HFCS is a supernatural demon is saying:

Fructose 42% + Glucose 58% = OMG POISON
Frustose 50% + Glucose 50% = Perfectly safe and happy
Fructose 55% + Glucose 45% = OMG POISON

If HFCS was some horrible concoction like other products these days where over the years the engredients list went from "fructose, glucose" to a two page list of ingredients you can't pronounce, fine I would agree that it is a lot worse. But that's not the case. We are talking about changes in percentage points of the same ingredients.

If you think HFCS is a poison fine, I'm not trying to change your mind about that, but I'm trying to let you know that sucrose (Table sugar) is in the same category.
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Post: #29
RE: High Fructose Corn Syrup = poison
diggerbanks  Wrote: (07-13-2012 12:00 AM)
doomed HFCS is the enemy. doomed

High Fructose Corn Syrup has become the industrial sugar of choice because it is cheap and plentiful. It gained favor in the food industry in 1977 after the price of normal sugar was hiked up due to tariffs and quotas.

It has been in your sodas since 1984. It's in fast food, bread, pizza-sauce, and so much else.

The average American consumed approximately 37.8 lb (17.1 kg) of HFCS in 2008

In recent years it has been fed to bees in place of sucrose.

This is a new food. It has only been around about 40 years. In that time we have witnessed a huge rise in obesity to the extent that in some places it is the norm. We have also seen a devastating collapse of bee populations.

It is not the only reason, but the consumption of HFCS must surely be the major contribution to obesity.

It is not the only reason, but the consumption of HFCS fed to bees must surely be a contribution to Colony Collapse.

Studies back it up.
http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archi.../91/22K07/
http://www.naturalnews.com/027286_HFCS_food_bees.html

I found a piece that offered a counterpoint, but it closed with this flimsy and inconclusive conclusion: I conclude that the HFCS-obesity hypothesis is supported neither in the United States nor worldwide.
http://www.ajcn.org/content/88/6/1716S.short

And now for the worst bit...
This mass-poisoning is being financed by the US government. Unbelievable!
HFCS is cheaper in the United States as a result of a combination of corn subsidies and sugar tariffs and quotas. Since the mid 1990s, the United States federal government has subsidized corn growers by $40 billion.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and...sugar.html

This is new to me. I never made the link to obesity or CCD because I had not even heard of HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP and how all-pervading it is until reading about it here http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Super-Si...-2-New-vid

To buff90, thanks for opening my eyes Heartflowers

Almost entirely bullshit.

The problem is the excessive consumption of sugars at all, not of this particular one.
The only real difference is that the body doesn't have to break down the sucrose into fructose and glucose but might be producing the enzimes to do it anyway.
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Post: #30
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I'm really starting to understand the corn industry's hatred for this anti-HFCS campaign. It really has worked to convince people that it is worlds apart from regular sugar, when it's more like a millimeter of difference.

Here's an experiment I'll offer to people and then probably stop wasting my time in this thread. Go find yourself a bunch of the "throwback" Pepsi products that came out a while back where they went back to using real sugar. Drink a bunch of them every day. Let me know how your body weight turns out, let me know whether you start to feel that they are addictive and that you get withdrawals when you try to stop. If you turn into the embodiment of perfect health, I'll accept that HFCS is some unique poison.
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