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GREY LENSMAN  Wrote:

HELLS BELLS

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A NEW DESIGN, AN IMPROVED CONCEPT OR A NEW WORKING PRACTICAL VEHICLE.



GL

oh ... who cares the NWO making sure it ain't ever gonna happen

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The Stelle Community thought about these way back.

It is the 1970s, and out in the American heartland two small but devoted groups have begun spreading some pretty strange ideas about the future. Each follows a charismatic leader who preaches that the end is near. Salvation is possible only by following him, and deliverance will come from the skies.

But during the next two decades, an odd thing happens. One group turns "respectable," almost banal in its normality. The other turns to mass suicide.


The leader of the latter group, as you may have guessed, was a tranquil middle-aged man named Marshall Applewhite. His followers trekked across the West and Southwest in search of self discipline and alien spacecraft. They settled into a posh suburb of San Diego, put their teachings on the Internet, then killed themselves to rendezvous with a spaceship trailing the Hale-Bopp comet.

The other group's leader was a tranquil middle-aged man named Richard Kieninger, whose followers built themselves a town in northern Illinois called Stelle, an island of suburbia in an ocean of cornfields. They settled down with their truck gardens and Tupperware parties to await a seismic apocalypse in the year 2000, figuring to ride it out in airships.

Somewhere along the way their faith in Kieninger waned, and Stelle opened itself to newcomers of all beliefs. By 1991 the town was deemed conventionally laudable enough to rate a mention in a USA Today story on "intentional communities," and the article didn't once mention the town's apocalyptic origins.

Figure out these two cases and you will reach to the heart of what turns one group of like-minded people into a cult and another into a settled community.

The key, say cult experts, is not so much the offbeat nature of a group's principles as it is the charisma and manipulative skills of its leader.

Mike Kropveld, head of the Montreal organization Info Cult, explains, "The more closed and rigid a movement becomes, the greater the potential for harm."

To some outsiders, the Stelle community seemed primed for cult status from the beginning. All it took for them was one look at the book that brought the place together, Kieninger's 1963 publication, "The Ultimate Frontier."

Kieninger wrote of being taken aside at age 12 by a kindly gentleman from the Great Beyond, a certain "Mr. White," who represented a progression of world and galactic leaders going back 20,000 years, known as the Brotherhoods. Its roster read like an all-star team from the world religion league, including practically every spiritual notable from Jesus to Buddha.

Kieninger was merely a reincarnated Egyptian pharaah, Mr. White told him, but he had been designated by the Brotherhoods to lead the world's next era of civilization, by building a town to be known as Stelle in preparation for surviving a global upheaval due May 5, 2000.

Mr. White anointed Kieninger with oil and departed, leaving the boy to his task. The book drew a small but loyal following, and by 1970 Kieninger had formed the Stelle Group and purchased 240 acres of farmland in northeast Illinois. That's where a small group people began constructing a few square blocks of tract homes, a flatland vista of ranchers built to earthquake-code specifications. In a few years the population was up to about 225.


Applewhite didn't come along with his prophecies for another five years, and they, too, seemed outlandish. He, also, was a messenger of the gods, he said, carrying a visitor from space within his body. Rather than building a town, his followers would move from place to place until it was time for the great journey to their next life among the Higher Beings.

But whereas Applewhite and co-founder Bonnie Nettles left little room for dissent and democratic rule, Kieninger's leadership style was more open.

"He was kind of a passive-aggressive authoritarian," recalls Tim Wilhelm, who joined the Stelle Group in 1975 and is now its executive director. "He would say, 'Look, I don't want to be a guru, I don't want to be an authority,' although usually he could gradually bring people around to his way of thinking with what we called his 'whisper campaigns.' "

So, while Applewhite and Nettles achieved a status that moved them beyond the rules, Kieninger, by contrast, wasn't allowed a bit of leeway, no matter his supposed standing among the Brotherhoods. His followers quickly turned against him when allegations of womanizing came to light.

They kicked him out of Stelle, allowing him back only for monthly meetings as a sort of leader-consultant. He moved to Texas to start another settlement, the Adelphi Organization. The Stelle holdovers, already stretched thin, began to rely even more on their own counsel.

The result by the end of 1976 was that when key prophecies of both groups failed to come true, the two sets of followers were poised for decidedly different reactions.

Post: #19

Staticsoul  Wrote:

vaerospace  Wrote:

Staticsoul  Wrote:

So its a military spy blimp your talking about?
Going to end alien dominance in our skies?
How do you see this playing out?
Elaborate please =)

this is what really scares the NWO alien regime ... shitless

How so?
Please more details
I would think, slow moving blimps
would be easy targets for spaceships
I don't think the free people have the tech
Unless some civilian group starts production
They will continue to lord over us from above

You hit the nail on the head ... arming toughening and militarising
my blimp project is the real issue , as i know there are many hostile
alien races in our skies and even more hostile humans
my blimp project is now looking (feaverishly) at new tech to 'harden' the
design for real world applications

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Actually ground operations ,speed are the main issues , I have solved this
by designing a delta wing shape , with lift cells that can be inflated and
deflated in flight , yea the heat signature is a problem ( in conflict situations)
but can be resolved by using an onion approach to the lift cells with
multilayer nano tech approach to heat insulation .

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One 30mm round and bye bye blimp. There's a reason they're not used in frontline Military action anymore. Anything you could try to reinforce it would just add weight, blimps worst enemy. And survive some catastrophic event in a blimp? Do you know how little wind speed is needed to drastically effect the maneuverability and airspeed of a blimp?
From where things stand now you're decades and decades of lucky breakthroughs away from anything that is going to rival a fixed wing aircraft to accomplish the same feats.

Mind sharing your project with us? Is be interested to see what you've come up with up with so far.
That is unless you're afraid of the aliens copying your designs

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Currahee  Wrote:

One 30mm round and bye bye blimp. There's a reason they're not used in frontline Military action anymore. Anything you could try to reinforce it would just add weight, blimps worst enemy. And survive some catastrophic event in a blimp? Do you know how little wind speed is needed to drastically effect the maneuverability and airspeed of a blimp?
From where things stand now you're decades and decades of lucky breakthroughs away from anything that is going to rival a fixed wing aircraft to accomplish the same feats.

Mind sharing your project with us? Is be interested to see what you've come up with up with so far.
That is unless you're afraid of the aliens copying your designs

Erm yea ... weight is relative in hot air (the hotter the more lift) actually
i'm pretty sure the answer is in UFO observation and nano tech
and good ol steel thread .15 - .35 micron and some silicone
thanx for the upbeat reply ... no blimp project is GNU - GPL
just interested in why blimps are not more popular in modelling and research
and as apocalypse bug out vehicles

will be sure to keep you posted !!!
meanwhile check this out real anti grav by a real physicist
http://www.elo.com.br/~deaquino/

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V77S5R1C4yg

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I like the idea.
If there is some cosmic encounter I imagine there would be falling debris - meteorite hail etc. and high winds at times. During that the blimp might not fare well.

The dirigible would be an excellent escape from earthquakes, flooding, and chaos on the surface though.

Here's some links to recent developments - just for curiosity sake:

"Pentagon plans blimp to spy from new heights
The giant dirigible would use radar to closely and constantly monitor activity on the ground from 65,000 feet."
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/13/...spyblimp13

High Tech Airships Making a Comeback
http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2958--...a-comeback

The airship finally takes off - Hybrid Air Vehicles has first civil customer
http://www.gizmag.com/hybrid-air-vehicle...hip/19746/

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Johntaraz  Wrote:

I like the idea.
If there is some cosmic encounter I imagine there would be falling debris - meteorite hail etc. and high winds at times. During that the blimp might not fare well.

The dirigible would be an excellent escape from earthquakes, flooding, and chaos on the surface though.

Here's some links to recent developments - just for curiosity sake:

"Pentagon plans blimp to spy from new heights
The giant dirigible would use radar to closely and constantly monitor activity on the ground from 65,000 feet."
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/13/...spyblimp13

High Tech Airships Making a Comeback
http://www.ecogeek.org/efficiency/2958--...a-comeback

The airship finally takes off - Hybrid Air Vehicles has first civil customer
http://www.gizmag.com/hybrid-air-vehicle...hip/19746/

actually a blinp would also be excellent for forbidden archeology and
exploration , apparently there are more pyramids to discover ,
lost cities in the amazon (inhabited) , holes and lakes at the
north pole and a gamut of stuff like crashed ancient spaceship sites
to discover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwD0khmrwl0